AVG is not adequate virus protection

[Jeff]

Thanks. A heck of a lot of people are using the free AVG which means a lot
of PCs are not well protected = danger for all of us.

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Jeff Williams
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG

 

[Greg R]

They are comming out with Avg 7 Free (That right free)
I am using the beta now. 7.0.269

The only think I had to change was in the boot.ini
I change the no execution option to always off
/noexcute =AlwaysOff

I don’t know if the problem was caused by avg beta or another program
that infers with dep.

The only think I don’t like. Is having to close the control center
differently. Takes time getting use to it

Greg R

 

[=?iso-8859-1?B?uyBtcnRlZSCr?=]

So Adaware & Spybot didn't find it either, curious.

You do seem to still be using AVG, look at you signature.

--
Just my 2¢ worth,
Jeff
__________in response to__________
|I have both Adaware and Spybot, updated and running as well. Actually I
| believe Trojans are considered a type of viruses. This one was detected by
| the Kaspersky Antivirus software.
|
| --
|
| Jeff Williams
| Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
| (e-mail address removed)
| Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG

 

[CZ]

AVG 6.0, free version.
Program version: 6.0.752 Release date: 9/2/2003
Virus database: 503 Release date: 9/3/2004


Jeff:

I have never been able to get that version to run in Safe Mode in XP.
Did you post earlier that you have run it in Safe Mode?
If so, how did you run it?

TIA

 

[Plato]

With all the viruses running around these days, I think it is important for
me to share this information and it might help all of us.

You can run any anti-virus you wish to. But if you insist on going to
sites and/or download files via peer-to-peer apps or XXX places or warez
places you will STILL get buggered. Best bet is NOT to install the
virus/trojan in the first place. Think of your anti-virus as a Second
Line Of Defence.

The first line of Defense is Prevention. ie Sleep with ho's, get
infected.

 

[Jeff]

I found instructions to do it on their website. It apparently goes into
"DOS" mode if I remember correctly.

--

Jeff Williams
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG

 

[Jeff]

Very true. But if they advertise themselves as virus software they ought to
at least detect the presence of the virus once it is there. I think to
advertise themselves as antivirus protection while offering poor protection
is downright criminal because people assume they are doing wat they are
advertised to do. To use your example, it is like advertising condoms with
known holes in them. What use is a antivirus software if it really isn't?

--

Jeff Williams
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG

 

[Testy]

Then why are you still using it?

Testy

Very true. But if they advertise themselves as virus software they ought
to
at least detect the presence of the virus once it is there. I think to
advertise themselves as antivirus protection while offering poor
protection
is downright criminal because people assume they are doing wat they are
advertised to do. To use your example, it is like advertising condoms
with
known holes in them. What use is a antivirus software if it really isn't?

--

Jeff Williams
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG

 

[Greg R]

Plato

Some reputable web sites. Those sites had tried to install programs.
Of course Avg alerted me to them.

What I think happens is those reputable sites get paid a lot of $$$$,
however they don’t know the ads they purchase are actual spyware,
Viruses, and Trojans

I have also came across hidden pop-ups when browsing legit sites.
That try to install software.


Avg has a new free version coming out.

Greg R

 

[Greg R]

Testy,
Do you supposed Jeff had the virus before he installed Avg free?
Virus will hide if they recognize a virus program is installing.

Greg R

 

[Testy]

Who knows what Jeff does in the privacy of his own home, All I know is I
have used AVG over 5 years and have never been infected and yes I do check
with several online scans occasionally.

Testy

 

[Jeff]

I am in the process of switching. I wanted to use Kaspersky, but it uses
sop much memory that it sends my system to a crawl. I am looking for a
substitute that would not give me the same sense of false security.

 

[Jeff]

Possible, but I've used AVG for years, plus using very careful surfing and
email techniques.

--

Jeff Williams
Email address deliberately false to avoid spam
(e-mail address removed)

Testy,
Do you supposed Jeff had the virus before he installed Avg free?
Virus will hide if they recognize a virus program is installing.

Greg R

 

[Jeff]

Who knows what Jeff does in the privacy of his own home, All I know is I

have used AVG over 5 years and have never been infected and yes I do check
with several online scans occasionally.

Testy

I was as sure as you were until I ran Kaspersky. Why not download and run
Kaspersky and report back. They have a 30 day free trial. What do you have
to lose? We could all learn from that. Would you be surprised to find that
despite AVG and the online scans you are infected? If you are found to be
clean, I would be the first one to be happy about it. I too checked with
several online scans and thy all said I was clean - but they were wrong.

 

[Jeff]

Is this the free version or the subscription one? I'd be happy to pay for
better protection, but I have to admit my faith in AVG has been shaken.
Three PCs infected under AVG's watch and one is not networked to the others!
None have broadband access.

 

[Greg R]

I Did that no virus. (Yes, I uninstalled avg temporally).
No viruses found. However that program is too slow for scanning,
Take almost an hour. (I use an image backup, when testing out
programs)

Jeff to answer you other question.

I am using the free beta version righ now.

I said Avg has a new free version coming out.


Greg R

 

[Gary]

Kaspersky does use more memory which does not affect me but it catches more
viruses and trojans then most other AV programs.
http://www.av-comparatives.org/

 

[Steve Nielsen]

With all the viruses running around these days, I think it is important for
me to share this information and it might help all of us.

I have 3 PCs at home. All 3 are protected with constantly updated AVG as
well as Zone Alarm, Spybot, Ad-Aware, CW shredder, ActiveX disabled, no
Java, etc., etc. Recently I suspected I might have a Trojan on my laptop.
(See http://forum.aumha.org/viewtopic.php?p=46746#46746 ). So I ran an
updated AVG both in regular and in Safe Mode. Showed no viruses.

I went through all kinds of searches, finally showing the presence of
FxNetsky and maybe another. Ran Symantic's FxNetsky with no improvement
plus a whole string of other things. I was finally advised to try
Kaspersky's 30-day free trial antivirus software. Kaspersky's AV found 2
viruses and 7 infected objects, removed them all and I did not need to even
go into safe mode. Of course I ran it in safe mode again and it found
nothing else.

With this experience, I ran Kaspersky on my other 2 PCs even though AVG
showed them to be clean and I had no suspicions. Guess what? Kaspersky
found both to be infected (different viruses) and successfully cleaned them
both.

Obviously I now think that my AVG is not providing me adequate protection.
I have nothing against AVG, in fact until recently I was recommending it,
like many of the experts (I am not one) on this forum have too, but the
facts are the facts. I emailed AVG but got no response back.

*** Recommendation: Run Kaspersky's free trial program on your PC. You
might be surprised at the results and if it disinfects your PCs, there would
be that many less viruses infecting others. I have no connection with
Kaspersky other than what I related.

Now, I need advice. I would love to purchase Kaspersky's antivirus even
though it is expensive, but it uses up so much RAM that when I have it
installed it slows my PC (Pentium, 2.66 GHz, 512 MB RAM and XP Home SP1) to
a crawl. So I was forced to uninstall it.

Question: what can I use instead of AVG that would provide good protection?

It has always been recommended to scan with at least two differnt a/v
programs as some threats can be missed by one or the other.

With all the threats out there I'm frankly surprised that any singe a/v
program can detect as much as it does. Also, some threats contain code
that allows them to be concealed from many popular a/v programs and
spyware scanners.

Steve

 

[Ian Doodle]

Question: what can I use instead of AVG that would provide good protection?

Take a look at this antivirus comparison:

http://forums.spywareinfo.com/index.php?showtopic=6165

AVG: 532 detected out of 758.
Kaspersky: 756 out of 758.

Ian

 

[Rock]

Take a look at this antivirus comparison:

http://forums.spywareinfo.com/index.php?showtopic=6165

AVG: 532 detected out of 758.
Kaspersky: 756 out of 758.

Ian

Note that the author who did the test put a strong caveat on it:

"These test are NOT to determine which AV software is superior, this is
just a test on 758 POSSIBLE Trojan, backdoor, and virus infected files."