Audio has issues with Windows Media Player but not in Virtualdub or SoundForge.

Discussion in 'Windows XP Basics' started by muzician21, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. muzician21

    muzician21 Guest

    I'm including RAP since I imagine you've run into audio issues with
    Windows. I'm having an oddball problem I've never encountered before.
    Running XP Pro SP3, I find that when I play video with Windows Media
    Player there's static & popping in the audio. The same video plays
    fine in Virtualdub and with SoundForge.

    I tried uninstalling WMP and reinstalling, seemed to work at first but
    then developed the same issue.

    It used to work fine on this Windows install, the issue seems to have
    cropped up recently. What's the difference between how VirtualDub and
    SoundForge accesses/plays video audio and how WMP plays it?

    This is the first time I've run into this. I had some problems with
    DRM wmv video that I initially thought was the fault of the file, but
    now I sense the bug is in the system.

    I'd like to solve this without doing an O/S reinstall. Any input will
    be appreciated.
     
    muzician21, Mar 30, 2011
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  2. muzician21

    Les Cargill Guest

    Re: Audio has issues with Windows Media Player but not in Virtualdubor SoundForge.

    muzician21 wrote:
    > I'm including RAP since I imagine you've run into audio issues with
    > Windows. I'm having an oddball problem I've never encountered before.
    > Running XP Pro SP3, I find that when I play video with Windows Media
    > Player there's static& popping in the audio. The same video plays
    > fine in Virtualdub and with SoundForge.
    >
    > I tried uninstalling WMP and reinstalling, seemed to work at first but
    > then developed the same issue.
    >
    > It used to work fine on this Windows install, the issue seems to have
    > cropped up recently. What's the difference between how VirtualDub and
    > SoundForge accesses/plays video audio and how WMP plays it?
    >
    > This is the first time I've run into this. I had some problems with
    > DRM wmv video that I initially thought was the fault of the file, but
    > now I sense the bug is in the system.
    >
    > I'd like to solve this without doing an O/S reinstall. Any input will
    > be appreciated.



    I have all but dropped WMP in favor of Media Player Classic Home Cinema.
    This is mainly because there seems to be nothing
    that Classic will not decode, and without installing reams of codecs.

    http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

    --
    Les Cargill
     
    Les Cargill, Mar 30, 2011
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  3. muzician21

    Carey Carlan Guest

    muzician21 <> wrote in news:e5a19271-7954-4e24-82f8-
    :

    > I'm including RAP since I imagine you've run into audio issues with
    > Windows. I'm having an oddball problem I've never encountered before.
    > Running XP Pro SP3, I find that when I play video with Windows Media
    > Player there's static & popping in the audio. The same video plays
    > fine in Virtualdub and with SoundForge.
    >
    > I tried uninstalling WMP and reinstalling, seemed to work at first but
    > then developed the same issue.
    >
    > It used to work fine on this Windows install, the issue seems to have
    > cropped up recently. What's the difference between how VirtualDub and
    > SoundForge accesses/plays video audio and how WMP plays it?
    >
    > This is the first time I've run into this. I had some problems with
    > DRM wmv video that I initially thought was the fault of the file, but
    > now I sense the bug is in the system.
    >
    > I'd like to solve this without doing an O/S reinstall. Any input will
    > be appreciated.


    I can't address your specific issue. I've never seen WMP play
    incorrectly. IME, it either works or not.

    The usual culprit in static and popping is a disagreement over data
    rates (sample size and rate) If, for instance, you're playing a track
    sampled at 48K, but your audio card will only accept 44.1K, the software
    must convert in real time. If it doesn't convert, the sound either
    doesn't play at all (most common) or it sputters and skips. If the
    software can't convert fast enough it will also sputter and skip, just
    not so much.

    In the case of WMP, I find that it's such a hog of system resources and
    so nosy about DRM that it's better to just retire it for something
    simpler like Media Player Classic.
     
    Carey Carlan, Mar 30, 2011
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  4. muzician21

    Paul Guest

    Re: Audio has issues with Windows Media Player but not in Virtualdubor SoundForge.

    muzician21 wrote:
    > I'm including RAP since I imagine you've run into audio issues with
    > Windows. I'm having an oddball problem I've never encountered before.
    > Running XP Pro SP3, I find that when I play video with Windows Media
    > Player there's static & popping in the audio. The same video plays
    > fine in Virtualdub and with SoundForge.
    >
    > I tried uninstalling WMP and reinstalling, seemed to work at first but
    > then developed the same issue.
    >
    > It used to work fine on this Windows install, the issue seems to have
    > cropped up recently. What's the difference between how VirtualDub and
    > SoundForge accesses/plays video audio and how WMP plays it?
    >
    > This is the first time I've run into this. I had some problems with
    > DRM wmv video that I initially thought was the fault of the file, but
    > now I sense the bug is in the system.
    >
    > I'd like to solve this without doing an O/S reinstall. Any input will
    > be appreciated.


    Use the program "GSpot", to check what CODEC is being requested for audio
    in the movie.

    http://gspot.headbands.com/v26x/GSpot270a.zip

    Paul
     
    Paul, Mar 30, 2011
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  5. "Arny Krueger" <> put forth the notion
    in...news::

    > "muzician21" <> wrote in message
    > news:
    >
    >> I'm including RAP since I imagine you've run into audio
    >> issues with Windows. I'm having an oddball problem I've


    -snippage-

    > A quick shotgun approach might be to install a large scale collection of
    > encoders and decoders such as the "K-Lite Mega Codec Pack" which is a

    free
    > download and IME remarkably effective as a codec problem solver despite

    the
    > fact that it is more like using a shotgun to solve the problem, than to

    use
    > a rifle which would be my preference.




    I'd try the XP Codec Pack first, as I've had some things go wonky in the
    past using K-Lite (or some elements therein).

    YMMV, of course,

    david
     
    david gourley, Mar 30, 2011
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  6. muzician21

    Gavino Guest

    "Arny Krueger" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > It is quite possible that Virtualdub and Soundforge are decoding your

    video
    > files using their own private codec libraries, while it is expected that
    > Windows Media Player would use the main shared system codec libraries.
    > ...
    > One approach would be to try reinstalling any other audio playing or

    editing
    > software including Virtualdub and SoundForge. They were probably installed
    > after the previous OS service pack was installed and may have beneficially
    > overlaid some of the codecs that came with your PC.


    VirtualDub does not instal any codecs (shared or otherwise), and has no
    private codec library. It uses the ACM (Audio Compression Manager) interface
    to decode audio.
     
    Gavino, Mar 30, 2011
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  7. muzician21

    muzician21 Guest

    Re: Audio has issues with Windows Media Player but not in Virtualdubor SoundForge.

    On Mar 30, 8:08 am, "Arny Krueger" <> wrote:

    > A quick shotgun approach might be to install a large scale collection of
    > encoders and decoders such as the "K-Lite Mega Codec Pack" which is a free
    > download and IME remarkably effective as a codec problem solver despite the
    > fact that it is more like using a shotgun to solve the problem, than to use
    > a rifle which would be my preference.



    The thing is, I've never had this problem before - in 98, 98SE, XP
    Home, XP Media Center - which I understand is supposed to be plagued
    with issues. It wasn't an issue on previous installs of this same XP
    Pro disc that came with the machine. I've always found WMP to be
    dependable. I've now done a fresh install with the same XP Pro disc
    and it's doing it again.

    What I'm finding is if I bring up WMP first thing after a reboot, it
    appears to behave normally for a while. Plays .mp3, .wav,
    DV .avi, .mpg. However, at some point it starts doing it
    spontaneously. In fact I found it just did it playing through a
    playlist of 44.1 16 bit .wav files. Played through about the first 3
    okay, after transitioning to the 4th track, the problem developed.

    I also find that if it's showing up in WMP it also shows up in Kmedia
    player and in Pinnacle Studio but *not* in Vegas Pro 8, Virtualdub or
    Soundforge.
     
    muzician21, Apr 1, 2011
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  8. muzician21

    muzician21 Guest

    Re: Audio has issues with Windows Media Player but not in Virtualdubor SoundForge.

    On Apr 1, 9:17 am, muzician21 <> wrote:

    > What I'm finding is if I bring up WMP first thing after a reboot, it
    > appears to behave normally for a while. Plays .mp3, .wav,
    > DV .avi, .mpg.  However, at some point it starts doing it
    > spontaneously. In fact I found it just did it playing through a
    > playlist of 44.1 16 bit .wav files. Played through about the first 3
    > okay, after transitioning to the 4th track, the problem developed.
    >
    > I also find that if it's showing up in WMP it also shows up in Kmedia
    > player and in Pinnacle Studio but *not* in Vegas Pro 8, Virtualdub or
    > Soundforge.



    I'll try the same list of audio files in a fresh boot and using only
    Kmedia player and see if it crops up.
     
    muzician21, Apr 1, 2011
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