Apple Release Safari Browser for Vista and XP


C

Chad Harris

Here's one answer to the MSFT IE team's refusal to fix crashes that happen
frequently with Adobe Flash (formerly Macromedia):

Use Safari on Vista:

Safari 3 Public Beta "The World's Best Browser Now on Windows Too! Clinical
Fact: Crashes a lot less than IE.
http://www.apple.com/safari/

Apple Releasing a Windows Browser

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/12/technology/12apple.html

June 12, 2007
Apple Releasing a Windows Browser
By JOHN MARKOFF

SAN FRANCISCO, June 11 - Apple said Monday that it would make its Safari Web
browser available for Windows-based PCs, opening a new front in its rivalry
with Microsoft.

The announcement came at the end of a presentation made by Steven P. Jobs,
Apple's co-founder and chief executive, at the company's annual World Wide
Developers Conference. It indicates that Apple is increasingly confident in
its ability to compete against Microsoft's desktop computing monopoly.

Shares of Apple dropped sharply after the announcement, falling $4.30, to
$120.19. Several Wall Street analysts said the decline proved that Mr. Jobs
was, after all, mortal. In recent years, Apple's chief executive has refined
product announcements into an art form that leaves his audience cheering and
then rushing to a store. Wall Street has come to hope that each new event
will create a new iPod-style billion-dollar market.

"This was pretty underwhelming," said Gene Munster, a financial analyst at
Piper Jaffray. "He hit a double instead of a homer."

With his usual showmanship, Mr. Jobs said that Safari would have twice the
performance capability of Microsoft's browser, Internet Explorer. He also
expressed confidence that Apple would be able to increase its market share
against the dominant software company, pointing to half a billion downloads
of Apple's iTunes software, most of them by Windows users.

A test version of the program was available Monday for downloading from
Apple's Web site.

In an interview after his presentation, Mr. Jobs said he had no concerns
that the new competition might anger Microsoft or lead to retaliation, such
as slowing the development of the version of Office for the Macintosh.
"After all, we are developing for Windows," he said.

Like many of Apple's strategic moves, the implication of an Apple browser
for Windows was not immediately clear. It is likely that Mr. Jobs is now
plotting a broader business strategy that will allow Apple to grow beyond
its niche position in the computer market of about a 5 percent share.

"Who knows? Maybe we can grow our Safari share in the future," Mr. Jobs
said. "We're going to try."

Apple's move is significant, industry executives said, because it indicates
that despite the end of the browser wars of the late 1990s, Microsoft's
continued ability to retain more than 80 percent market share is a
continuing threat to its competitors. Mr. Jobs said that Safari's market
share was currently about 5 percent and the share of Firefox, the open
source browser, was about 15 percent. There has been a persistent fear that
Microsoft would be able to create new standards that would force computer
users to adopt its software to reach certain Web sites and Internet
services.

The broader appeal of the browser might have implications for Apple's
iPhone. In his presentation, Mr. Jobs said that the company was encouraging
Apple software developers to use modern Internet software standards to make
applications compatible with Apple's iPhone, which will go on sale June 29.
The announcement is likely to touch off a frenzy of activity because Mr.
Jobs said that applications that are written to Internet standards like AJAX
and designed to work with Web browsers would work from the first day the
iPhone is available.

"It will create a much more significant consumer platform for the iPhone,"
said Mike McGuire, a research analyst at Gartner, an industry research firm
in San Jose, Calif.

By moving software development away from personal computers and cellular
phones and toward the Internet, Apple is attempting to persuade its
developers that they can achieve new economies of scale while permitting the
computer and consumer electronics firm to build more secure devices and
computers.

"There is something very clever going on here with Apple releasing Safari
for Windows," said Scott Love, president of Aquaminds Software, a Macintosh
developer based in Palo Alto, Calif. "Don't ever underestimate S. J.'s
motives." Some developers said they were disappointed that Apple would
continue to restrict software development for the iPhone. However, a number
of them said that they were intrigued by the company's new Windows-oriented
Web browser strategy.

Much of the rest of the presentation focused on showing 10 new features of
the company's Leopard version of the OS X operating system. Mr. Jobs had
shown many of the features, such as a new backup system called Time Machine
and a new more powerful version of the Apple instant messaging system called
iChat. On Monday, Mr. Jobs showed several refinements to the company's
operating system appearance and graphical user interface.

At previous events announcing the Leopard version of Apple's Mac OS X
operating system, Mr. Jobs has hinted at important new features. However,
Monday's event indicated that Leopard, which was originally supposed to be
commercially available by now and then was delayed until October when the
company shifted resources toward its iPhone, had no major surprises.

Mr. Jobs teased the audience of about 5,000 software developers, saying the
company would have multiple versions of Leopard, all priced at $129.

"I'm sure most of you will want the Ultimate version," he said. The
reference was a not-so-subtle jab at Microsoft, which offers Windows Vista
at a variety of price points with different features. Apple, of course, will
sell just one version.

Electronic Arts and Id announced that they would begin releasing popular
games for the Macintosh simultaneously with Windows versions.
 
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Richard

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Hash: SHA1

Chad said:
Here's one answer to the MSFT IE team's refusal to fix crashes that
happen frequently with Adobe Flash (formerly Macromedia):

Use Safari on Vista:

Safari 3 Public Beta "The World's Best Browser Now on Windows Too!
Clinical Fact: Crashes a lot less than IE.
http://www.apple.com/safari/

Apple Releasing a Windows Browser

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/12/technology/12apple.html

June 12, 2007
Apple Releasing a Windows Browser
By JOHN MARKOFF

SAN FRANCISCO, June 11 - Apple said Monday that it would make its Safari
Web browser available for Windows-based PCs, opening a new front in its
rivalry with Microsoft.

The announcement came at the end of a presentation made by Steven P.
Jobs, Apple's co-founder and chief executive, at the company's annual
World Wide Developers Conference. It indicates that Apple is
increasingly confident in its ability to compete against Microsoft's
desktop computing monopoly.

Shares of Apple dropped sharply after the announcement, falling $4.30,
to $120.19. Several Wall Street analysts said the decline proved that
Mr. Jobs was, after all, mortal. In recent years, Apple's chief
executive has refined product announcements into an art form that leaves
his audience cheering and then rushing to a store. Wall Street has come
to hope that each new event will create a new iPod-style billion-dollar
market.

"This was pretty underwhelming," said Gene Munster, a financial analyst
at Piper Jaffray. "He hit a double instead of a homer."

With his usual showmanship, Mr. Jobs said that Safari would have twice
the performance capability of Microsoft's browser, Internet Explorer. He
also expressed confidence that Apple would be able to increase its
market share against the dominant software company, pointing to half a
billion downloads of Apple's iTunes software, most of them by Windows
users.

A test version of the program was available Monday for downloading from
Apple's Web site.

In an interview after his presentation, Mr. Jobs said he had no concerns
that the new competition might anger Microsoft or lead to retaliation,
such as slowing the development of the version of Office for the
Macintosh. "After all, we are developing for Windows," he said.

Like many of Apple's strategic moves, the implication of an Apple
browser for Windows was not immediately clear. It is likely that Mr.
Jobs is now plotting a broader business strategy that will allow Apple
to grow beyond its niche position in the computer market of about a 5
percent share.

"Who knows? Maybe we can grow our Safari share in the future," Mr. Jobs
said. "We're going to try."

Apple's move is significant, industry executives said, because it
indicates that despite the end of the browser wars of the late 1990s,
Microsoft's continued ability to retain more than 80 percent market
share is a continuing threat to its competitors. Mr. Jobs said that
Safari's market share was currently about 5 percent and the share of
Firefox, the open source browser, was about 15 percent. There has been a
persistent fear that Microsoft would be able to create new standards
that would force computer users to adopt its software to reach certain
Web sites and Internet services.

The broader appeal of the browser might have implications for Apple's
iPhone. In his presentation, Mr. Jobs said that the company was
encouraging Apple software developers to use modern Internet software
standards to make applications compatible with Apple's iPhone, which
will go on sale June 29. The announcement is likely to touch off a
frenzy of activity because Mr. Jobs said that applications that are
written to Internet standards like AJAX and designed to work with Web
browsers would work from the first day the iPhone is available.

"It will create a much more significant consumer platform for the
iPhone," said Mike McGuire, a research analyst at Gartner, an industry
research firm in San Jose, Calif.

By moving software development away from personal computers and cellular
phones and toward the Internet, Apple is attempting to persuade its
developers that they can achieve new economies of scale while permitting
the computer and consumer electronics firm to build more secure devices
and computers.

"There is something very clever going on here with Apple releasing
Safari for Windows," said Scott Love, president of Aquaminds Software, a
Macintosh developer based in Palo Alto, Calif. "Don't ever underestimate
S. J.'s motives." Some developers said they were disappointed that Apple
would continue to restrict software development for the iPhone. However,
a number of them said that they were intrigued by the company's new
Windows-oriented Web browser strategy.

Much of the rest of the presentation focused on showing 10 new features
of the company's Leopard version of the OS X operating system. Mr. Jobs
had shown many of the features, such as a new backup system called Time
Machine and a new more powerful version of the Apple instant messaging
system called iChat. On Monday, Mr. Jobs showed several refinements to
the company's operating system appearance and graphical user interface.

At previous events announcing the Leopard version of Apple's Mac OS X
operating system, Mr. Jobs has hinted at important new features.
However, Monday's event indicated that Leopard, which was originally
supposed to be commercially available by now and then was delayed until
October when the company shifted resources toward its iPhone, had no
major surprises.

Mr. Jobs teased the audience of about 5,000 software developers, saying
the company would have multiple versions of Leopard, all priced at $129.

"I'm sure most of you will want the Ultimate version," he said. The
reference was a not-so-subtle jab at Microsoft, which offers Windows
Vista at a variety of price points with different features. Apple, of
course, will sell just one version.

Electronic Arts and Id announced that they would begin releasing popular
games for the Macintosh simultaneously with Windows versions.

There's also Opera, which was my browser of choice a few years ago.
These days i'm happy with IE.



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C

Chad Harris

Mark--

Interesting article on the crashes. I'm trying to put Safari through as
many paces as I can using articles on it to mod it, etc. So far it works
flawlessly, but I'm in US so I can't speak to other languages or countries.
As to security, I'm not too worried.

CH
 
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Richard

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Chad said:
Mark--

Interesting article on the crashes. I'm trying to put Safari through as
many paces as I can using articles on it to mod it, etc. So far it
works flawlessly, but I'm in US so I can't speak to other languages or
countries. As to security, I'm not too worried.

CH

You're not worried about security?


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Guest

I like to see all OSX Leopard executing in PCs ... not only Safari ...
Microsoft lose his way ...
 
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Tom Lake

Chad Harris said:
Mark--

Interesting article on the crashes. I'm trying to put Safari through as
many paces as I can using articles on it to mod it, etc. So far it works
flawlessly, but I'm in US so I can't speak to other languages or
countries. As to security, I'm not too worried.

In the interest of fairness, the researcher crashed it. He didn't say it
was
definitely an exploitable bug.

I don't see it being twice as fast as IE. In fact, just the opposite is
true for me.
IE7 beats Safari on every Website I visit. Of course, Safari is just a beta
so
we'll see if the release version without debugging code lives up to the
hype.

Tom Lake
 
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Richard

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I like to see all OSX Leopard executing in PCs ... not only Safari ...
Microsoft lose his way ...

Yes i'd probably give it a go too.




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Jeanette

Tom said:
In the interest of fairness, the researcher crashed it. He didn't say it
was
definitely an exploitable bug.

I don't see it being twice as fast as IE. In fact, just the opposite is
true for me.
IE7 beats Safari on every Website I visit. Of course, Safari is just a beta
so
we'll see if the release version without debugging code lives up to the
hype.

Tom Lake
Hmm.. The Safari browser crashes on the flash/shockwave test page.
 
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Chad Harris

Jeanette--

So has IE 7/Vista RTM been crashing often with the event viewer error
attributing it to Adobe Flash (Adobe bought Macromedia).

CH
 
C

Chad Harris

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/

CH

Chad Harris said:
Here's one answer to the MSFT IE team's refusal to fix crashes that happen
frequently with Adobe Flash (formerly Macromedia):

Use Safari on Vista:

Safari 3 Public Beta "The World's Best Browser Now on Windows Too!
Clinical Fact: Crashes a lot less than IE.
http://www.apple.com/safari/

Apple Releasing a Windows Browser

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/12/technology/12apple.html

June 12, 2007
Apple Releasing a Windows Browser
By JOHN MARKOFF

SAN FRANCISCO, June 11 - Apple said Monday that it would make its Safari
Web browser available for Windows-based PCs, opening a new front in its
rivalry with Microsoft.

The announcement came at the end of a presentation made by Steven P. Jobs,
Apple's co-founder and chief executive, at the company's annual World Wide
Developers Conference. It indicates that Apple is increasingly confident
in its ability to compete against Microsoft's desktop computing monopoly.

Shares of Apple dropped sharply after the announcement, falling $4.30, to
$120.19. Several Wall Street analysts said the decline proved that Mr.
Jobs was, after all, mortal. In recent years, Apple's chief executive has
refined product announcements into an art form that leaves his audience
cheering and then rushing to a store. Wall Street has come to hope that
each new event will create a new iPod-style billion-dollar market.

"This was pretty underwhelming," said Gene Munster, a financial analyst at
Piper Jaffray. "He hit a double instead of a homer."

With his usual showmanship, Mr. Jobs said that Safari would have twice the
performance capability of Microsoft's browser, Internet Explorer. He also
expressed confidence that Apple would be able to increase its market share
against the dominant software company, pointing to half a billion
downloads of Apple's iTunes software, most of them by Windows users.

A test version of the program was available Monday for downloading from
Apple's Web site.

In an interview after his presentation, Mr. Jobs said he had no concerns
that the new competition might anger Microsoft or lead to retaliation,
such as slowing the development of the version of Office for the
Macintosh. "After all, we are developing for Windows," he said.

Like many of Apple's strategic moves, the implication of an Apple browser
for Windows was not immediately clear. It is likely that Mr. Jobs is now
plotting a broader business strategy that will allow Apple to grow beyond
its niche position in the computer market of about a 5 percent share.

"Who knows? Maybe we can grow our Safari share in the future," Mr. Jobs
said. "We're going to try."

Apple's move is significant, industry executives said, because it
indicates that despite the end of the browser wars of the late 1990s,
Microsoft's continued ability to retain more than 80 percent market share
is a continuing threat to its competitors. Mr. Jobs said that Safari's
market share was currently about 5 percent and the share of Firefox, the
open source browser, was about 15 percent. There has been a persistent
fear that Microsoft would be able to create new standards that would force
computer users to adopt its software to reach certain Web sites and
Internet services.

The broader appeal of the browser might have implications for Apple's
iPhone. In his presentation, Mr. Jobs said that the company was
encouraging Apple software developers to use modern Internet software
standards to make applications compatible with Apple's iPhone, which will
go on sale June 29. The announcement is likely to touch off a frenzy of
activity because Mr. Jobs said that applications that are written to
Internet standards like AJAX and designed to work with Web browsers would
work from the first day the iPhone is available.

"It will create a much more significant consumer platform for the iPhone,"
said Mike McGuire, a research analyst at Gartner, an industry research
firm in San Jose, Calif.

By moving software development away from personal computers and cellular
phones and toward the Internet, Apple is attempting to persuade its
developers that they can achieve new economies of scale while permitting
the computer and consumer electronics firm to build more secure devices
and computers.

"There is something very clever going on here with Apple releasing Safari
for Windows," said Scott Love, president of Aquaminds Software, a
Macintosh developer based in Palo Alto, Calif. "Don't ever underestimate
S. J.'s motives." Some developers said they were disappointed that Apple
would continue to restrict software development for the iPhone. However, a
number of them said that they were intrigued by the company's new
Windows-oriented Web browser strategy.

Much of the rest of the presentation focused on showing 10 new features of
the company's Leopard version of the OS X operating system. Mr. Jobs had
shown many of the features, such as a new backup system called Time
Machine and a new more powerful version of the Apple instant messaging
system called iChat. On Monday, Mr. Jobs showed several refinements to the
company's operating system appearance and graphical user interface.

At previous events announcing the Leopard version of Apple's Mac OS X
operating system, Mr. Jobs has hinted at important new features. However,
Monday's event indicated that Leopard, which was originally supposed to be
commercially available by now and then was delayed until October when the
company shifted resources toward its iPhone, had no major surprises.

Mr. Jobs teased the audience of about 5,000 software developers, saying
the company would have multiple versions of Leopard, all priced at $129.

"I'm sure most of you will want the Ultimate version," he said. The
reference was a not-so-subtle jab at Microsoft, which offers Windows Vista
at a variety of price points with different features. Apple, of course,
will sell just one version.

Electronic Arts and Id announced that they would begin releasing popular
games for the Macintosh simultaneously with Windows versions.
 
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C

Chad Harris

Also:

http://www.edbott.com/weblog/

CH


Chad Harris said:
Here's one answer to the MSFT IE team's refusal to fix crashes that happen
frequently with Adobe Flash (formerly Macromedia):

Use Safari on Vista:

Safari 3 Public Beta "The World's Best Browser Now on Windows Too!
Clinical Fact: Crashes a lot less than IE.
http://www.apple.com/safari/

Apple Releasing a Windows Browser

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/12/technology/12apple.html

June 12, 2007
Apple Releasing a Windows Browser
By JOHN MARKOFF

SAN FRANCISCO, June 11 - Apple said Monday that it would make its Safari
Web browser available for Windows-based PCs, opening a new front in its
rivalry with Microsoft.

The announcement came at the end of a presentation made by Steven P. Jobs,
Apple's co-founder and chief executive, at the company's annual World Wide
Developers Conference. It indicates that Apple is increasingly confident
in its ability to compete against Microsoft's desktop computing monopoly.

Shares of Apple dropped sharply after the announcement, falling $4.30, to
$120.19. Several Wall Street analysts said the decline proved that Mr.
Jobs was, after all, mortal. In recent years, Apple's chief executive has
refined product announcements into an art form that leaves his audience
cheering and then rushing to a store. Wall Street has come to hope that
each new event will create a new iPod-style billion-dollar market.

"This was pretty underwhelming," said Gene Munster, a financial analyst at
Piper Jaffray. "He hit a double instead of a homer."

With his usual showmanship, Mr. Jobs said that Safari would have twice the
performance capability of Microsoft's browser, Internet Explorer. He also
expressed confidence that Apple would be able to increase its market share
against the dominant software company, pointing to half a billion
downloads of Apple's iTunes software, most of them by Windows users.

A test version of the program was available Monday for downloading from
Apple's Web site.

In an interview after his presentation, Mr. Jobs said he had no concerns
that the new competition might anger Microsoft or lead to retaliation,
such as slowing the development of the version of Office for the
Macintosh. "After all, we are developing for Windows," he said.

Like many of Apple's strategic moves, the implication of an Apple browser
for Windows was not immediately clear. It is likely that Mr. Jobs is now
plotting a broader business strategy that will allow Apple to grow beyond
its niche position in the computer market of about a 5 percent share.

"Who knows? Maybe we can grow our Safari share in the future," Mr. Jobs
said. "We're going to try."

Apple's move is significant, industry executives said, because it
indicates that despite the end of the browser wars of the late 1990s,
Microsoft's continued ability to retain more than 80 percent market share
is a continuing threat to its competitors. Mr. Jobs said that Safari's
market share was currently about 5 percent and the share of Firefox, the
open source browser, was about 15 percent. There has been a persistent
fear that Microsoft would be able to create new standards that would force
computer users to adopt its software to reach certain Web sites and
Internet services.

The broader appeal of the browser might have implications for Apple's
iPhone. In his presentation, Mr. Jobs said that the company was
encouraging Apple software developers to use modern Internet software
standards to make applications compatible with Apple's iPhone, which will
go on sale June 29. The announcement is likely to touch off a frenzy of
activity because Mr. Jobs said that applications that are written to
Internet standards like AJAX and designed to work with Web browsers would
work from the first day the iPhone is available.

"It will create a much more significant consumer platform for the iPhone,"
said Mike McGuire, a research analyst at Gartner, an industry research
firm in San Jose, Calif.

By moving software development away from personal computers and cellular
phones and toward the Internet, Apple is attempting to persuade its
developers that they can achieve new economies of scale while permitting
the computer and consumer electronics firm to build more secure devices
and computers.

"There is something very clever going on here with Apple releasing Safari
for Windows," said Scott Love, president of Aquaminds Software, a
Macintosh developer based in Palo Alto, Calif. "Don't ever underestimate
S. J.'s motives." Some developers said they were disappointed that Apple
would continue to restrict software development for the iPhone. However, a
number of them said that they were intrigued by the company's new
Windows-oriented Web browser strategy.

Much of the rest of the presentation focused on showing 10 new features of
the company's Leopard version of the OS X operating system. Mr. Jobs had
shown many of the features, such as a new backup system called Time
Machine and a new more powerful version of the Apple instant messaging
system called iChat. On Monday, Mr. Jobs showed several refinements to the
company's operating system appearance and graphical user interface.

At previous events announcing the Leopard version of Apple's Mac OS X
operating system, Mr. Jobs has hinted at important new features. However,
Monday's event indicated that Leopard, which was originally supposed to be
commercially available by now and then was delayed until October when the
company shifted resources toward its iPhone, had no major surprises.

Mr. Jobs teased the audience of about 5,000 software developers, saying
the company would have multiple versions of Leopard, all priced at $129.

"I'm sure most of you will want the Ultimate version," he said. The
reference was a not-so-subtle jab at Microsoft, which offers Windows Vista
at a variety of price points with different features. Apple, of course,
will sell just one version.

Electronic Arts and Id announced that they would begin releasing popular
games for the Macintosh simultaneously with Windows versions.
 

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