Aero Glass - Is it Usefull?

J

JS

Just installed Vista, no issues. But the Aero Glass look, I just don't see
any value.
Tell me what advantage there is to Aero?
Are the default settings for Aero after a fresh install OK, or does more
adjusting need to be done to get the best of Aero?

JS
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

If you don't see the value then don't bother with it. It is a
personalization feature. To each his own.
 
M

MICHAEL

JS said:
Just installed Vista, no issues. But the Aero Glass look, I just don't see
any value.
Tell me what advantage there is to Aero?
Are the default settings for Aero after a fresh install OK, or does more
adjusting need to be done to get the best of Aero?


It has the same amount of value as a beautiful lady in
a low cut red dress.

It's eye candy. ;-)


-Michael
 
T

Travis King

You are sure that you're viewing Aero Glass and not just Aero Basic, aren't
you? Aero Basic is ugly. (and many others agree)
 
T

Tom Scales

MICHAEL said:
It has the same amount of value as a beautiful lady in
a low cut red dress.

It's eye candy. ;-)


-Michael

If you believe they are of equal value, then your priorities are really,
really wrong :)
 
M

MICHAEL

Tom Scales said:
If you believe they are of equal value, then your priorities are really, really wrong :)

What's on the inside is most important. ;-)

Don't be so superficial. :)


-Michael
 
T

Travis King

Have you experimented with Flip-3D (windows key + tab), Flip with live
thumbnails (alt + tab), and the live thumbnail previews? Those are all
parts of Glass and without Glass, you cannot have those.
 
J

JS

Thanks, I'll try it.

JS

Travis King said:
Have you experimented with Flip-3D (windows key + tab), Flip with live
thumbnails (alt + tab), and the live thumbnail previews? Those are all
parts of Glass and without Glass, you cannot have those.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

The quick launch toolbar icon for flip3d is back in build 5456. It was out
for a couple of builds. When you get to RC1 you will be able to use flip3d
with the mouse.
 
T

Travis King

Good to know. Thanks. From screenies I've seen on 5456, I've seen a few
subtle changes. Is it true that there is a new cursor scheme in place? I
saw a screenshot of a new cursor scheme. (Unless someone just edited it.)
The thing I don't like about the cursors is the 'stub' on the cursor is a
little too short in my opinion, but maybe that's just because I've been used
to the same cursor for seven years now. The Windows Mail icon has changed
and is no longer the old OE icon. Colin mentioned the Flip-3D icon
returning. It also appears that your icon on the logon screen is larger
now. I also saw that the 'add gadgets' window is not completely
transparent. The installation window also adds 'Check compatibility online'
just above the 'Install now' option. I also noticed a few subtle changes in
the task manager such as the 'services' tab. The system performance rating
number (at least in the system properties window) no longer is in the shape
of a circle but is instead in the shape of a square. A few changes in the
networking section. A few new icons. And so on...
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

Yes, the new cursor scheme is there. There are lots of changes as the
result of tester feedback.
 
C

Chad Harris

You can turn off aero glass and you can use a key combo to turn it off and
on.

If you find the Aero Glass user interface annoying, orif it is slow on your
computer configuration, simply press Ctrl+Shift+F9 to turn it off. Press
this key combination again to re-enable it.

Aero glass is just marketing to people who would rather that it look good
than work well. MSFT has done tons of focus groups where the result was
that the unwashed masses of MSFT customers that they consider
condescendingly as stupid and manipulable don't care whether something
functions well as long as it "looks cool."


If you do a careful analysis of most of the promotions that MSFT makes for
Office any version or Windows any version they appeal to lower common
denominators, are vague and devoid of detailed information on features, and
are presented in superficial generalities.

Some of us watched a really moronic presentation by someone "from MSFT" at a
joint AMD presentation and quickly realized he new next to nothing about
Windows. We were peppered by such crebreal insights as "Windows XP SP2 is a
really great operating system" and "Vista is really cool and will be a big
deal."

The OEM system builders that were a large part of the audience, hammered
him with questions like "Why are we required by MSFT to provide genuine
retail media and your named partners provide crap recovery discs and
partitions that just don't work"?

Answer: "Ya wanna buy 50, 000 OEM preinstalls of Windows and then we'll
letcha screw the public just like the large OEMs." Also amusingly MSFT's
new mantra at these events is "we're really going after people who sell
pirated software." Fact: You're going after the 1% of people you can find
mostly in the US despite your cloak and dagger hiring investigators to wait
in cars in European alleys."

To why is WGA calling home: "We're um considering what to do and it will
probably do this less." Questioner: No --you don't get it we'll just
remove the component that calls home with software that's all over the web.

At no time did it occur to the MSFT presenter that the OEM software crap
they hose the public with works for anything. One of the bright bulbs from
AMD chimed into a question about losing the media from the 300 named
partners and the OEM system builders replacing it that "when they lose the
recovery CD it's like the idiots lose a $100 bill." Far from it processor
boy, its actually that they lose a piece of worthless crap on a disc.

Aero glass effect much better than MSFT has in Vista and its spinoffs and
sequels Aurora, Diamond ect. have been available for several years via 3rd
party and they are all over the web. So are 3D effects that MSFT may never
include in the OS. The caviat is you have to watch their CPU use.

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28854588/

http://www.hardwaregeeks.com/board/showthread.php?t=17537

CH
 
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Chad Harris

Too much superficial holding back. Too much obsequieous behavior by people
who hope to be included in whatever Beta. Too much screwing of a large base
of their customers. Too much sucking up that reminds me of elementary
school brown nosing. What I really think is I can see in countless threads
that OEM named partners make tons by not supporting customers and MSFT is
indifferent to this. OEM named partners refuse to supply customers with
adequate media or partitions to reach Win RE in Vista or the Startup
Recovery tools in Win RE and they refuse to supply customers with the same
to do a repair install in XP. I really think this cycle is going to repeat
itself in Vista and I heard MSFT give stupid answers to this very issue
raised by multiple OEM system builders last night.

I will try not to hold back. Holding back is for the superficial and it is
what sheep urge. LOL the stupid administration of your country wanted the
NY Times to hold back the SWIFT surveillance program and the wiretapping
surveillance and threatened them. Those kind of threats to the press have
ended very poorly for the administration threatening. MSFT was asked on
June 1 and June 2 to turn over all their customer private information and
web searches via MSN for 2 years and save them and hold back that info from
their customers.

CH
 
J

jonah

What I really think is I can see in countless threads

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that OEM named partners make tons by not supporting customers and MSFT is
indifferent to this. OEM named partners refuse to supply customers with
adequate media or partitions to reach Win RE in Vista or the Startup
Recovery tools in Win RE and they refuse to supply customers with the same
to do a repair install in XP. I really think this cycle is going to repeat
itself in Vista and I heard MSFT give stupid answers to this very issue
raised by multiple OEM system builders last night.

I totally agree with this Chad, the problem IMO is lack of education
in new / non-enthusiast users. I always advise anybody who asks to
have a PC built to spec by a small OEM retailer and insist on a full
MSFT OEM disk and to go nowhere near the likes of Dell, HP, PC World
etc. The current PC World TV ads in the UK make me cringe, £495 for a
crap laptop stuffed to the brim with "value added" spyware and they
chuck in NIS 2006 for 1/2 Price. Also they go on at length about
"surfing the net in the garden" without once mentioning an internet
connection and wireless router might possibly be an idea.

The only way this is going to change is for a massive public outcry
combined with a proper popular press campaign to shine light on this
issue (and the WGA fiasco) while they are at it, otherwise people will
continue to "pay peanuts get monkeys" which is OK if they are aware
thats what they are getting, trouble is people are not aware they are
being conned.
 

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