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I have a brand new Windows XP-IE 6 computer, that I need to use for training courses. The course utilizes Java files, whic
the new computer does not have-as IE 6 did not come with JVM files.

I cannot install the Sun Java files, because the updates to the Java files are available only if you are currently running a version of VM. This is referenced in MS KB299672, and also I have tried to install the Sun Java-to no luck. There is no option to uninstall IE6-my thought was to uninstall IE 6 and install IE 5.5-which does contain Java files. Any help would be appreciated as I need the Sun Java files to run the training course.

This is a vicious cycle--Since the computer came loaded with IE6-there is no Java files to run; it won't install/update the Java file, because there is no previous version running, and since I can't uninstall IE 6 and reinstall 5.5, I can't get the java files installed so I could do an update to Sun Java!! Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Hi Tal - You can test whether Java is working on your machine at the
following
sites:

http://www.pocoso.de/pocoso052.html
http://www.clan.lib.ri.us/clan/javatest.html
http://www.fitwise.com/testjava.asp (both 1.0 and 1.1 and what's
installed)
http://coglab.wadsworth.com/support/browsercheck.html
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/webct/browser_detect.html

and you can test Javascript here:
http://www.dancespots.net/browsertest.htm

and check whether you have the MS VM installed and which version here:
http://www.visualware.com/personal/support/index.html#java

There is good information concerning all aspects of the Java situation here:
http://www.javatester.org/installing.html

Be aware, however, that after Sept. 30, 2004, MS will apparently no longer
be distributing Java or providing any support for Java including
security fixes. (It's unclear as to how 6/26/03 court decision will
affect this) See here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/evaluation/news/jre.asp, and
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/ ,and more recently here:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle....RBAELCFEY?type=technologyNews&storyID=3572282
so you
might want to start thinking about the future.

You can get the Sun Java J2SE RunTimes or SDK here:
http://java.sun.com/downloads/index.html (all versions - select using
the dropdown)

Sun also offers an automatic download and install of the 1.4 Java
plug-in here: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html



For the MS Java VM, you may need to install v.3809 prior to upgrading
to v. 3810 if you didn't previous have MS Java v. 3805 or 3809
installed.

If your OS is Win2000 SP2, SP3 but NOT SP4 then you can download and
install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from here:
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._510A502BA8F9B6F19230BB2BCCE87D5474AC9DCD.exe
or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...icrosoft.Q810030_W2K_SP4_5849/Q810030_W2K.exe

For Win2000 SP4, you'll need to re-install v.3805, from here:
http://www.nhyrvana.com/files/pop.cgi?file=win2kmsjavx86.zip It will
download as Pop.zip. Just unzip it and then execute the resultant
msjavx86. This is the only version that I know of that will re-install
under SP4.

For all other OS's:

Download and install the MS Java VM v. 3809 from one of the links here:
http://www.nhyrvana.com/files/pop.cgi?file=3809.exe (it will be named
pop.exe), or here:
http://www.biologylab.awlonline.com...XP/com_microsoft.javavm_3809_5853/msjavwu.exe,
or here:
http://secinfo.huji.ac.il/patches/Win-xp/msjavwu.exe


Then upgrade to v. 3810:

For all OS's except Win2k, obtain v. 3810 here:
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1050022631

For all versions of Win2k - SP2, SP3 or SP4 - obtain v. 3810 here:
http://download.microsoft.com/downl...-9b18-423356321682/Q816093_W2K_SP4_X86_EN.exe

Both Java VM's can co-exist on your machine quite nicely. Just select
which one you want to use in Tools|Internet Options|Advanced and restart
all IE browsers. Here, courtesy of Michel Gallant, MVP Security, is a
tiny utility which allows you to toggle and view status of your current
Java VM vendor associated with IE:
http://pages.istar.ca/~neutron/SelectIEJVM

A note from Mitch Gallant:

"One note about the JVM Selector utility:
If/when you install a new version of Sun J2SE, you need to manually
select to have Sun JVM as default JVM for IE (in install), or after
install
via the JavaPlugin control panel. This generates the necessary win32
registry
entries, which must be present for the utility to know about JavaPlugin.
After that, the utility should work properly."



--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP
--

Henri Leboeuf
Web page: http://www.colba.net/~hlebo49/index.htm
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xptrain said:
I have a brand new Windows XP-IE 6 computer, that I need to use for
training courses. The course utilizes Java files, which
the new computer does not have-as IE 6 did not come with JVM files.

I cannot install the Sun Java files, because the updates to the Java files
are available only if you are currently running a version of VM. This is
referenced in MS KB299672, and also I have tried to install the Sun Java-to
no luck. There is no option to uninstall IE6-my thought was to uninstall IE
6 and install IE 5.5-which does contain Java files. Any help would be
appreciated as I need the Sun Java files to run the training course.
This is a vicious cycle--Since the computer came loaded with IE6-there is
no Java files to run; it won't install/update the Java file, because there
is no previous version running, and since I can't uninstall IE 6 and
reinstall 5.5, I can't get the java files installed so I could do an update
to Sun Java!! Any help would be appreciated.
 

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