Windows 7 email program?

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Gary VanderMolen

This procedure worked for me:
1. Rename the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\ directory in Win7 to something else.
2. Copy that same-named directory (including its files) from a working Vista
computer and paste it to the Win7 computer.
3. Create a new shortcut from the WinMail.exe file.

Then after Windows Mail is installed on Windows 7, apply the two
registry fixes mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5..html

By the way, I always read all the threads here.
 
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Paul H

Thank you Gary - that should work for me - I do have my up-to-date Windows
Mail on another Vista Home Premium, that I won't upgrade until the 1st one
works flawlessly. Right now I'm stuck - W7 home premium says
"The following issues are preventing Windows from upgrading. Cancel the
upgrade, complete each task, and then restart the upgrade to continue. -
There is not enough free space to store temporary Windows installation
files. Try using Disk Cleanup, uninstall old programs, or move files to an
external location such as a CD, DVD, or external hard drive. "
but I just changed to a huge hard drive and re-installed C: and D: and it
works perfectly for a day or two. I posted a new query in vista.general
newsgroup. Right now I'm waiting for any help. How do I ask Microsoft? No
W#7 newsgroup yet. Just forums.

This procedure worked for me:
1. Rename the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\ directory in Win7 to something
else.
2. Copy that same-named directory (including its files) from a working Vista
computer and paste it to the Win7 computer.
3. Create a new shortcut from the WinMail.exe file.

Then after Windows Mail is installed on Windows 7, apply the two
registry fixes mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5.html

By the way, I always read all the threads here.
 
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Paul H

Gary, I used the link you gave to me. Microsoft has escalated my problem
twice, and the current guy has spent hours taking over my screen and trying
things. I hope he will give up soon and escalate my problem to someone in
Seattle. Is there a way I can make that happen?

Microsoft will probably not create a Windows 7 newsgroup,
since they are deemphasizing NNTP support. A web-based
help site is here:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help

and some forums here:

http://windows7forums.com/
http://www.sevenforums.com/
 
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Paul H

Gary,

I am waiting until I have a fix (hack?) so my Vista's Windows Mail will work
properly when I upgrade (not new install) to W7. I purchased an Acer
slightly before W7's availability, that included an upgrade to W7 when it
becomes available. I got my upgrade CD - Vista Home Premium 32 bit to W7
Home premium 32 bit - yesterday.

Since the upgrade will preserve my programs, including Windows Mail, the
hack should let me continue to use Windows Mail with all my contracts,
messages in various folders, etc.

Can you point me to the hack?

Thanks,

Paul

I'm not sure where you are seeing a conflict in my statements.

Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail can be used simultaneously,
and in Vista they are both fully functional.

Windows Mail will only run in Windows 7 after employing the hack I
previously mentioned.
Windows Mail newsgroups mode under Windows 7 is fully functional,
and I am using it in that fashion right now.
Windows Mail email mode under Windows 7 is functional as far as
the basics are concerned, but I don't recommend it for the average
user because they will get frustrated when their MailTo links don't work.
Furthermore, future Windows 7 updates may further degrade WM's
limited compatibility with that OS, since Microsoft has no intention
of supporting WM functionality under Windows 7.
 
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Gary VanderMolen

This procedure worked for me:
1. Rename the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\ directory in Win7 to something else.
2. Copy that same-named directory (including its files) from a working Vista
computer and paste it to the Win7 computer.
3. Create a new shortcut from the WinMail.exe file.

Then after Windows Mail is installed on Windows 7, apply the two
registry fixes mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-6..html#post309014

Those registry fixes are only needed if you want Windows Mail to handle
all the default mail protocols. The fixes aren't needed to get basic mail
functionality.

Be aware that future Windows Updates may render WM inoperable in
Windows 7, as will running SFC.exe. For that reason I recommend also
installing Windows Live Mail, so you will have an immediate fallback
if WM fails.
 
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Paul H

Thanks, Gary. I won't need to move Windows Mail to W7. It will be there,
like all of my other applications, since I'm doing an in-place upgrade, not
a total install.

You pointed me to that W7 forum before, but I don't see how to download the
two registry fixes. I'm apparently not understanding something very basic,
but it's Greek to me.

If WM eventually stops working, I'll move to T-bird or something else - not
WLM - that won't work for me.

Best regards,
Paul

This procedure worked for me:
1. Rename the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\ directory in Win7 to something
else.
2. Copy that same-named directory (including its files) from a working Vista
computer and paste it to the Win7 computer.
3. Create a new shortcut from the WinMail.exe file.

Then after Windows Mail is installed on Windows 7, apply the two
registry fixes mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-6.html#post309014

Those registry fixes are only needed if you want Windows Mail to handle
all the default mail protocols. The fixes aren't needed to get basic mail
functionality.

Be aware that future Windows Updates may render WM inoperable in
Windows 7, as will running SFC.exe. For that reason I recommend also
installing Windows Live Mail, so you will have an immediate fallback
if WM fails.
 
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Gary VanderMolen

Your assumption is not correct.
The in-place upgrade of Vista to Windows 7 will not bring along
Vista's Windows Mail. Microsoft has deliberately disabled
Windows Mail in Windows 7. Only the procedure I gave you will
resurrect it.

The file names in the forum are clickable links. Clicking on those
should start the download process.
 
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poppa bear

I would be very grateful if anyone can provide me with a free download link for Windows-Mail2.reg?  I am a nonprofessional computer user and apart from personal use enjoy playing with them as a hobby.  I hope this reply is in the right forum? I have been able to obtain Windows-Mail.reg Zip as a free download but can only find Windows-Mail2.reg at Rapid Share as a paid download.I recently imported Win Mail from Vista to Win7 Ultimate.  The program ran OK but emails saved to desktop as .eml files would not open.These are the steps I took to enable .eml files to be opened on the desktop:1.  Run Windows-Mail.reg as .exe file to edit the registry.2.  Go to:  Start==>  All Programs  ==>  Run  ==>  Type: regedit ==> OK2.  Select:  Regedit\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\eml_auto_file\shell\open\command3.  In right panel, double click:  Default  ==> Change Value Data exactly as shown next in Modified key.4.  Modified key:  "C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\winmail.exe" /eml:%1While everything works OK without Window-Mail2.reg, for completeness I would like to run it as well.This is a link to a post on another forum detailing the necessary steps to:Import Windows Mail files from Vista, and paste them into Windows Mail program in Win7, replacing the original files.  This cannot be done by simply copying and pasting.Open and work with .eml email files on the desktop or in storage folders of Win7 using the steps outlined above in the first part of this reply.Hope this may help others.  Thanks in anticipation.


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Gary VanderMolen

After Windows Mail is working on Windows 7, apply the two
registry fixes mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-6..html#post309014

Note:
There is a clickable link for WinMail2.zip (which contains WinMail2.reg).

Those registry fixes are only needed if you want Windows Mail to handle
all the default mail protocols. The fixes aren't needed to get basic mail
functionality.

Be aware that future Windows Updates may render WM inoperable in
Windows 7, as will running SFC.exe. For that reason I recommend also
installing Windows Live Mail, so you will have an immediate fallback
if WM fails.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


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poppa bear

Anonymous (11/8/2009)
Post in reply to: poppa bearNote:=20There is a clickable link for WinMail2.zip (which contains =WinMail2.reg).Those registry fixes are only needed if you want Windows Mail to handleall the default mail protocols. The fixes aren't needed to get basic =mailfunctionality.Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolenThank you very much for this info.  I successfully downloaded Windows-Mail2.reg.  However, after I ran it, every time I open Windows Mail, I get a Log on pop-up asking for the User Name and Password for every email account.  When I put them in, it still won't open the account or remember the user name and password entered.Can you tell me how to disable this log on pop-up?


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Gary VanderMolen

Either your antivirus program or one of your other security programs
may be blocking writes to the registry. Changes can't be saved if
they can't be written to the registry.
Some of the security programs known to do this are:

Ad-Aware Ad-Watch
IBM Access Connections
Kaspersky
McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware
Norton AV
Spyware Blaster
Spybot> Tools> IE Tweaks
Spybot- Teatimer
Spy Sweeper
Spyware Doctor
Zone Alarm (free) 6.5, reported to be fixed in later versions.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen


Anonymous (11/8/2009)
Post in reply to: poppa bearNote:=20There is a clickable link for WinMail2.zip (which contains =WinMail2.reg).Those registry fixes are only needed if you want Windows Mail to handleall the default mail protocols. The fixes aren't needed to get basic =mailfunctionality.Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolenThank you very much for this info.  I successfully downloaded Windows-Mail2.reg.  However, after I ran it, every time I open Windows Mail, I get a Log on pop-up asking for the User Name and Password for every email account.  When I put them in, it still won't open the account or remember the user name and password entered.Can you tell me how to disable this log on pop-up?


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Paul H

Gary, your advice is excellent. My email is working, with all of my
contacts and my folder structures. I had to export .iaf files to avoid
having to enter passwords for my 16 email accounts. Whew!

But based upon the problems that poppa bear says he had with the hacks, I
probably should leave what I have. What is an example of what I will be
missing? A big deal, or just a minor annoyance occasionally?

Today I did an in-place update from Vista 32 bit Home Premium to W7 32 bit
Home Premium, using the CDs that Acer sent because I purchased one of their
8 hour battery 15.6" 5810T laptops last month for $450. It took forever,
and I had to turn the laptop off a couple times, then start it back up. It
picked up where it had been stuck, every time. That concerned me, but the
results appear OK. I finished by doing their many updates. All of the
applications work. And since my contacts and emails are where they were, I
suspect the same technique will work there,and I'd rather use that laptop as
my email machine.

Thanks again, and could I trust the hacks, or learn from poppa bear's
problems?

Paul

Your assumption is not correct.
The in-place upgrade of Vista to Windows 7 will not bring along
Vista's Windows Mail. Microsoft has deliberately disabled
Windows Mail in Windows 7. Only the procedure I gave you will
resurrect it.

The file names in the forum are clickable links. Clicking on those
should start the download process.
 
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Paul H

I have some information that I will not publish in this or any newsgroup,
but that I'm sure you will find useful. If you email me, I'll send it to
you (and will not deluge with other emails.) You can confirm my credibility
by viewing www.pchplano.com .

Your assumption is not correct.
The in-place upgrade of Vista to Windows 7 will not bring along
Vista's Windows Mail. Microsoft has deliberately disabled
Windows Mail in Windows 7. Only the procedure I gave you will
resurrect it.

The file names in the forum are clickable links. Clicking on those
should start the download process.
 
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Gary VanderMolen

Without the .reg hacks, Windows Mail will not be called up
automatically when you click on a "Email Us" link on a web page
(this is technically known as the MailTo protocol).
Also, if you are in another program such as Windows Live Photo Gallery,
which has an Email command on its toolbar, that command won't work
because Windows Mail is not designated to be the default email program
in Windows 7.

The latest version of the .reg hacks worked for me. But who knows what
Microsoft will do in the future to thwart it? I have to maintain a working
copy of Windows Mail so I can properly assist users, but if that were not
the case, I'd probably convert 100% to Windows Live Mail.
 
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Canuck57

CWLee said:
Do I assume correctly that W-7 will not support Windows Mail? I'm
currently using it, and am happy with it, so I'd prefer not to make
another switch (as I did when I went to Vista, switching from Outlook
Express to Windows Mail.)

Thanks.
Click to expand...

You will find Thunderbird to be very similar to Outlook Express/Vista
Mail. My wife figured it out without my assistance and she is
non-technical but a former outlook Express user.

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/
 
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Paul H

Hi Gary,
I now use alt.windows7.general in aioe.org to deal with W7 issues.
I've been using Windows Mail for a month now, and I finally downloaded the
patches. I'm finding not having the links to Windows Mail more than a
little annoying. But I have no idea how to install them. TIA, Paul

Not sure which one of the three links you mean.

I don't know of any way to get escalated support from Microsoft.

Be sure to post your issue to the two forums I gave you. Some user
may have resolved that issue already.
Also, here is a third help forum:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7
 
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khouth

salut a tout et a tous
Paul H said:
Hi Gary,
I now use alt.windows7.general in aioe.org to deal with W7 issues.
I've been using Windows Mail for a month now, and I finally downloaded the
patches. I'm finding not having the links to Windows Mail more than a
little annoying. But I have no idea how to install them. TIA, Paul

Not sure which one of the three links you mean.

I don't know of any way to get escalated support from Microsoft.

Be sure to post your issue to the two forums I gave you. Some user
may have resolved that issue already.
Also, here is a third help forum:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7
Click to expand...
 
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Gary VanderMolen \(MVP\)

This procedure worked for me:
1. Rename the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\ directory in Win7 to something else.
2. Copy that same-named directory (including its files) from a working Vista
computer and paste it to the Win7 computer.
3. Create a new shortcut from the WinMail.exe file.

Then after Windows Mail is installed on Windows 7, apply the two
registry fixes mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-6..html#post309014

Those registry fixes are only needed if you want Windows Mail to handle
all the default mail protocols. The fixes aren't needed to get basic mail
functionality.

Be aware that future Windows Updates may render WM inoperable in
Windows 7, as will running SFC.exe. For that reason I recommend also
installing Windows Live Mail, so you will have an immediate fallback
if WM fails.
 

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