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Gary VanderMolen
That's just the basic copy/install procedure, which doesn't include any
of the .reg files necessary to make WM the default mail program.
of the .reg files necessary to make WM the default mail program.
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t-4-2
Thank you.
So, now with this basic copy/install method and the Windows Mail2.reg file,
we can have Win 7 with WM running as default e-mail program. Correct ?
Sounds simple without " hacking ".
t-4-2
So, now with this basic copy/install method and the Windows Mail2.reg file,
we can have Win 7 with WM running as default e-mail program. Correct ?
Sounds simple without " hacking ".
t-4-2
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Gary VanderMolen
I would like someone to try it with just the "Windows Mail2.reg" file.
I have a hunch that the original "Windows Mail.reg" file is also
required.
I have a hunch that the original "Windows Mail.reg" file is also
required.
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Steve Cochran
As I indicated, there is a lot more involved than just what's in those
files. Even if you got WinMail default, you still have functionality loss.
steve
CORRECTION:
I have again downloaded the "Windows Mail2.zip" file, extracted the
"Windows Mail2.reg" file, and ran it, and this time it did the trick!
Windows Mail can now be configured as the default mail program
under Windows 7.
What I don't know is whether the original "Windows Mail.zip" file
is still required also. I had used it some time ago with less than
stellar results. However, the author indicates that the second file
is "in addition to" the first file. If that is true, I don't know why he
doesn't just combine the two files into one.
--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
Which particular link at SevenForums?
I tried both of the .reg files mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5.html
with the following results:
a) Windows Mail is not added to "Set your default programs".
b) Windows Mail is added to "Set program access and computer defaults"
but it doesn't update the necessary registry keys to make MailTo work.
files. Even if you got WinMail default, you still have functionality loss.
steve
CORRECTION:
I have again downloaded the "Windows Mail2.zip" file, extracted the
"Windows Mail2.reg" file, and ran it, and this time it did the trick!
Windows Mail can now be configured as the default mail program
under Windows 7.
What I don't know is whether the original "Windows Mail.zip" file
is still required also. I had used it some time ago with less than
stellar results. However, the author indicates that the second file
is "in addition to" the first file. If that is true, I don't know why he
doesn't just combine the two files into one.
--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen
Which particular link at SevenForums?
I tried both of the .reg files mentioned here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/2300-cant-make-windows-mail-default-5.html
with the following results:
a) Windows Mail is not added to "Set your default programs".
b) Windows Mail is added to "Set program access and computer defaults"
but it doesn't update the necessary registry keys to make MailTo work.
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Steve Cochran
I'm working on it, but it involves much more than the superficial files that
have been posted.
Also, are you now advocating (since you are using it) mixing OS files
between the two systems, since that is the only way you and others have
gotten a functional version?
steve
Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
have been posted.
Also, are you now advocating (since you are using it) mixing OS files
between the two systems, since that is the only way you and others have
gotten a functional version?
steve
Until someone posts a complete registry file that resets
all the necessary Windows Mail values, I can't recommend
use of WM under Windows 7 for the average user.
S
Sam Hobbs
Until recently, none of the implementations of BASIC had the advantages of
Fortran, COBOL or Pascal. The original design criteria for BASIC was that it
could be used with minimal resources. Pascal was designed to show that a
well-designed language could be used with equivalent minimal resources.
I have not spent time learning the latest version of VB, but it seems to
finally support object-oriented programming.
I joined the Army in the early 70's and began programming in COBOL then.
Fortran, COBOL or Pascal. The original design criteria for BASIC was that it
could be used with minimal resources. Pascal was designed to show that a
well-designed language could be used with equivalent minimal resources.
I have not spent time learning the latest version of VB, but it seems to
finally support object-oriented programming.
I joined the Army in the early 70's and began programming in COBOL then.
G
Gary VanderMolen
In general, I would not advocate mixing OS files.
However, no one has figured out a different way to make
Windows Mail work under Windows 7, and it doesn't seem
to cause any harm.
I still don't advocate it for the average user.
However, no one has figured out a different way to make
Windows Mail work under Windows 7, and it doesn't seem
to cause any harm.
I still don't advocate it for the average user.
S
Steve Cochran
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aussieann
Many thanks Steve <g> .... I can see how the virtual environment works now and does not appear too complicated, but when I look at
the homepage at what is involved in setting it all up I can't in all honesty see many able to get the ISO's etc and being able to
set it up .... though I suppose if getting a new computer that could be done by a tech guy .... anyhow like a squirrel am saving all
and everything and hoping that something else will come up in the near future .. smile
Ann
What I was trying to show was this:
http://www.oehelp.com/capture2.jpg
<G>
steve
the homepage at what is involved in setting it all up I can't in all honesty see many able to get the ISO's etc and being able to
set it up .... though I suppose if getting a new computer that could be done by a tech guy .... anyhow like a squirrel am saving all
and everything and hoping that something else will come up in the near future .. smile
Ann
What I was trying to show was this:
http://www.oehelp.com/capture2.jpg
<G>
steve
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Paul H
Huh? What does the link you provided demonstrate? Strange "+" and "-" on
the display, and what they cause. OEX is in the background. I am extremely
confused. If this is not using Windows Mail under W7, I'm out of luck,
because I can't get my mail back out of Windows mail (#&^@* Microsoft!) and
back to Outlook Express.
Steve, I appreciate your help, and wish I understood it. Paul
the display, and what they cause. OEX is in the background. I am extremely
confused. If this is not using Windows Mail under W7, I'm out of luck,
because I can't get my mail back out of Windows mail (#&^@* Microsoft!) and
back to Outlook Express.
Steve, I appreciate your help, and wish I understood it. Paul
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aussieann
Have been looking at windows 7 inf etc and see that depending on the version of windows 7 installed it comes with windows virtual
and XP mode .. it's referring to installing older programs but I assume it would be the same as in your screenshot and we would be
able to access OE from it too .. smile
Ann
Many thanks Steve <g> .... I can see how the virtual environment works now and does not appear too complicated, but when I look at
the homepage at what is involved in setting it all up I can't in all honesty see many able to get the ISO's etc and being able to
set it up .... though I suppose if getting a new computer that could be done by a tech guy .... anyhow like a squirrel am saving all
and everything and hoping that something else will come up in the near future .. smile
Ann
What I was trying to show was this:
http://www.oehelp.com/capture2.jpg
<G>
steve
and XP mode .. it's referring to installing older programs but I assume it would be the same as in your screenshot and we would be
able to access OE from it too .. smile
Ann
Many thanks Steve <g> .... I can see how the virtual environment works now and does not appear too complicated, but when I look at
the homepage at what is involved in setting it all up I can't in all honesty see many able to get the ISO's etc and being able to
set it up .... though I suppose if getting a new computer that could be done by a tech guy .... anyhow like a squirrel am saving all
and everything and hoping that something else will come up in the near future .. smile
Ann
What I was trying to show was this:
http://www.oehelp.com/capture2.jpg
<G>
steve
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Steve Cochran
I'll be providing directions on my website soon. I'm working out the
details.
steve
details.
steve
S
Steve Cochran
The image shows a screen shot of a Windows 7 Desktop. On the Desktop are
Control Panel, IE and Microsoft Virtual PC Windows. Within the VPC window
is an instance of Windows XP and on that Desktop is an OE Window open to
this NG and a message composition window. I don't see any + or - on the
display, so I don't know what you are referring to.
If you want you mail back to OE, just create a new folder in OE, open that
folder to show its empty message list, and then drag the eml files from
WinMail overtop the OE folder message list and drop them. They will then be
incorporated into the OE folder.
steve
Control Panel, IE and Microsoft Virtual PC Windows. Within the VPC window
is an instance of Windows XP and on that Desktop is an OE Window open to
this NG and a message composition window. I don't see any + or - on the
display, so I don't know what you are referring to.
If you want you mail back to OE, just create a new folder in OE, open that
folder to show its empty message list, and then drag the eml files from
WinMail overtop the OE folder message list and drop them. They will then be
incorporated into the OE folder.
steve
S
Steve Cochran
One can also do this now in Vista. The major pre-requisite is a valid copy
of XP.
http://www.oehelp.com/captureV.jpg
steve
of XP.
http://www.oehelp.com/captureV.jpg
steve
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aussieann
Thanks Steve <s>
Ann
I'll be providing directions on my website soon. I'm working out the
details.
steve
Ann
I'll be providing directions on my website soon. I'm working out the
details.
steve
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Paul H
Steve, that would be terrific - especially if I could drag a folder that had
sub-folders in it, and have it retain the structure. And if I could then
run OE on my W7 machine.
But how can I run Outlook Express on that same machine that has Windows
Mail, to accomplish the dragging? How would I install OE on my Vista
machine? Or Windows Mail on my XP Pro machine?
Actually, If I can make Windows Mail run with W7 without the problems some
folks have mentioned, I'd be content, and avoid any conversion problems.
Thursday is gonna be exciting!
Thanks,
Paul
sub-folders in it, and have it retain the structure. And if I could then
run OE on my W7 machine.
But how can I run Outlook Express on that same machine that has Windows
Mail, to accomplish the dragging? How would I install OE on my Vista
machine? Or Windows Mail on my XP Pro machine?
Actually, If I can make Windows Mail run with W7 without the problems some
folks have mentioned, I'd be content, and avoid any conversion problems.
Thursday is gonna be exciting!
Thanks,
Paul
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Gary VanderMolen
Be patient. Steve will post the details when he's ready.
Basically it will involve installing a spare copy of Windows XP
in the Microsoft Virtual PC program which you first install in
Windows 7. Then you can install OE.
I think the big hangup is that you must have a spare non-OEM
copy of Windows XP.
Basically it will involve installing a spare copy of Windows XP
in the Microsoft Virtual PC program which you first install in
Windows 7. Then you can install OE.
I think the big hangup is that you must have a spare non-OEM
copy of Windows XP.
S
Steve Cochran
The trick is having a valid product key. The XP install is not that big a
deal.
steve
Be patient. Steve will post the details when he's ready.
Basically it will involve installing a spare copy of Windows XP
in the Microsoft Virtual PC program which you first install in
Windows 7. Then you can install OE.
I think the big hangup is that you must have a spare non-OEM
copy of Windows XP.
deal.
steve
Be patient. Steve will post the details when he's ready.
Basically it will involve installing a spare copy of Windows XP
in the Microsoft Virtual PC program which you first install in
Windows 7. Then you can install OE.
I think the big hangup is that you must have a spare non-OEM
copy of Windows XP.
S
Steve Cochran
You have to install Virtual PC and then a running copy of XP in that window.
Then you have what is similar to picture in a picture with a TV. You would
have a running copy of XP in a separate window like any other Windows window
and you can run OE from that instance of XP in Win7 (or in Vista). To move
the files back and forth you can drag eml files or use the File | Import
techniques.
steve
Then you have what is similar to picture in a picture with a TV. You would
have a running copy of XP in a separate window like any other Windows window
and you can run OE from that instance of XP in Win7 (or in Vista). To move
the files back and forth you can drag eml files or use the File | Import
techniques.
steve
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Paul H
Gary, I hope you're still watching this thread. I installed a large (320 gb
vs. the insufficient 80 gb) hard drive, so I'll do the Vista Home Premium to
W7 Home Premium in place upgrade, maybe tomorrow, and I'll keep all of my
installed applications. Including Windows Mail. So I hope I can find the
hacks that have been mentioned here. Thanks, Paul
There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.
I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.
I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.
vs. the insufficient 80 gb) hard drive, so I'll do the Vista Home Premium to
W7 Home Premium in place upgrade, maybe tomorrow, and I'll keep all of my
installed applications. Including Windows Mail. So I hope I can find the
hacks that have been mentioned here. Thanks, Paul
There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.
I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.
I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.
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