Windows 7 email program?

[Paul H]

What email should I use when I convert to Windows 7 in a few days? I must
be able to easily convert thousands of emails in hundreds of folders, many
nested within other folders, maybe 3 or 4 deep. I have 8 or more email
addresses that Windows Mail checks automatically. Is OEX any good? TIA,
Paul

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

OEX is not a Mail Client.

Win7 does not include any default Mail Client but you can install one of
your choosing (e.g., Windows Live Mail; MS Outlook; Eudora; Thunderbird).

You might consider migrating from Windows Mail to Windows Live Mail now to
ease the transition (assuming you wanna use Windows Live Mail as your
default Mail Client in Win7).

You'll find support for Windows Live Mail (WLMail) in this public newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windows.live.mail.desktop

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

I want to stress again what PA Bear already mentioned.
If you plan to use Windows Live Mail with Windows 7, install it
on your Vista computer now. Hopefully it will auto-import all
your WM stuff. Then you can copy your WLM data from your
Vista computer and restore it on your Windows 7 computer.
A free third party program will do that job very nicely:

http://www.staticbackup.com/windows-live-mail-backup/
http://www.staticbackup.com/products.htm#swmbf

It does not transfer contacts, so you should handle those separately.

 

[CWLee]

Win7 does not include any default Mail Client but you can
install one of your choosing (e.g., Windows Live Mail; MS
Outlook; Eudora; Thunderbird).

You might consider migrating from Windows Mail to Windows
Live Mail now to ease the transition (assuming you wanna
use Windows Live Mail as your default Mail Client in
Win7).

Do I assume correctly that W-7 will not support Windows
Mail? I'm currently using it, and am happy with it, so I'd
prefer not to make another switch (as I did when I went to
Vista, switching from Outlook Express to Windows Mail.)

Thanks.

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

There is a hack available to allow some use of WM in Windows 7.
There are limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow
Windows Mail to be set as the default mail client.

I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.

 

[Steve Cochran]

OEX actually works in Windows 7, but the Winmail application has been
rendered unusable per se. There are some hacks out there, but they are
somewhat lacking their success.

I'd suggest keeping the old computer and using it rather than jumping into
Win7 and losing basic OS functionality.

steve

 

[Steve Cochran]

That is correct at the moment. The WinMail application in Win7 is unusable
at the moment.

There is no need for users to update to Win7 and lose basic OS functionality
if they are happy with XP or Vista.

steve

 

[Paul H]

Thanks, Steve. I tried the W7 beta and liked it. And I like the Outlook
Express / Windows Mail layout. So what to use in W7? Thunderbird looks
good, except there's no way to convert to it without hours of error-prone
drudgery. I find it hard to believe that I'm the only person with this
issue. Is there another credible alternative, with a conversion path?

 

[t-4-2]

Suggestion only......
Before you install Win7,
assuming you are now using Windows Mail, install Windows Live Mail. All you
messages, contacts etc will be transferred from WM to WLM automatically.
Now, go get your Win 7 which supports Windows Live Mail.
P.S. Windows Live Mail is to REPLACE Windows Mail which was shelved to the
back corner by MS.
Link to install Windows Live Mail : http://download.live.com
t-4-2

 

[Paul H]

I did as you suggested. After my files were converted, I started using Live
Mail. I DO NOT LIKE THE LEFT (FOLDERS) COLUMN! I need another email
client. This "Live" stuff tries to make me use functions I do not want. I
do not want to use instant messaging, for example, and I have my own ways of
organizing pictures. So I'll probably uninstall all of the "live" stuff.

 

[t-4-2]

Sorry to hear that you dislike WLM.
For your information : When you were installing WLM, your were OFFERED
several programs, i.e. Live Messenger, Writer, etc. You did not have to take
any of them. You could have declined all of them except the mail client,
WLM.
I don't know what you don't like about the Folder Pane. To me, it's better
than Windows Mail because Windows Mail dump all e-mails to one In-box even
though you may have different accounts. I have 3 different accounts, and
e-mails coming from different accounts will be downloaded to their
respective accounts.
I definitely don't know what do you mean by " my own ways of organizing
pictures ". Both WLM and WM do not organize pictures. It's up to you.
Windows Mail ( WM ) has Windows Photo Gallery. Windows Live Mail ( WLM ) has
Windows Live Photo Gallery. Slight different names, same animal.
Anyway, good luck searching for another e-mail client. I can't make
recommendation because I don't know any.

t-4-2

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

You can make Windows Live Mail as web-unaware as you want.
There certainly is no need to use instant messaging with it, or the
"photo email" option.

 

[t-4-2]

If you could tolerate the Folders Pane, you can uninstall the rest of the
programs that you do not want.
Start button > Control Panel > Programs and Features. Scroll to and select
Windows Live Essentials, right click > Uninstall. Follow the prompts, select
the programs you want to get rid of.

t-4-2

 

[Steve Cochran]

I don't like WLM either. I'm not sure what I'm going do except make sure I
don't update all my machines to Win7.

steve

 

[Paul H]

Hi Tea-for-two,
I have 16 accounts that get checked every 5 minutes. I have my own 2
ATT.NET, Gmail, a few for www.verifycharges.com, a few for www.PCHplano.com,
and a few for some other projects I'm working on. I've turned others on and
off over that past few years as I've played with projects. So my left panel
is a mess in "Live". I like most of my mail in "Inbox", with a few directed
to specific other sub-folders. I like to have my sub-folders beneath my
Inbox. Some I keep expanded and most I keep collapsed, unless I'm looking
for something in one of them - they are mostly just for storage of
historical mail. I think I mentioned that I keep all of my email - this is
my entire filing system - all 37,000 mails, I think! I should probably move
it all to a data base, and simplify me email life. But, how to get there
from here?
I think I'll uninstall the entire "Live" collection and find an email client
that I can live with, because I DO want to go to W7! Maybe I'll use
Thunderbird, and initially just convert my main folders, then convert the
others, and maybe weed out or consolidate them as I need them. Since I have
5 computers networked here in the house, and I only want to convert 2 to W7,
I have plenty of places to keep the old stuff until I need it.
I'm 70 and earn some $ writing COBOL (yup, that old stuff) (that I should be
doing right now) so between PC's, TV (I'm addicted, and use Tivo
extensively - who has time for commercials, except for football), reading
(fiction only - no self improvement) and grandkids (eight of them), I hardly
have time to sleep, and I've never been more content than right now.
But Microsoft is messing with me by not continuing the Outlook Express way
of doing things!
Thanks for letting me vent! And tolerate the typos I'll see immediately
after clicking "Send"!
Paul

 

[Doug]

I, too, dislike WLM which I am using installed for mail and newsgroups only.
However I would put up with it were it not for the fact that it
intermittently freezes my PC so that Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't work leaving me
with no option than to reach for the reset button. I am hoping that when I
clean install Win 7 later this month WLM will work impeccably. Googling for
["Windows Live Mail" crash] produces 262,000 hits which suggests it is
seriously unreliable.
Doug

I don't like WLM either. I'm not sure what I'm going do except make sure
I don't update all my machines to Win7.

steve





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[t-4-2]

Since you do have a history with computer programming, and that you said you
like Windows Mail, I'd suggest that you start a new thread. SUBJECT : How to
make Win7 accepting Windows Mail.
There is a way to ....." tweak it, playing with the registry ". The person
who knows may respond if he thinks you are " well versed " enough to tangle
with registry.
P.S. You could " move " your 37,000 mails to Storage Folders section. This
way, if something happens to your account(s), you won't lose everything.
OR, here is a link given by one of the MVPs. A program to back up Windows
Live Mail, or Windows Mail. The cosy is reasonable, and you have a 20 days
free trial period. :
http://www.staticbackup.com/windows-live-mail-backup/
t-4-2

 

[t-4-2]

I have never been able to understand COBOL, but then I was taking lessons
once a week in Community College.
My favourite was Basic Language. I still have the book written by David A.
Lien, " Learning Basic For Tandy Computers ".

t-4-2

 

[Paul H]

I'm intimidated by the registry, but will follow instructions from someone I
can trust. I use StorageCraft's ShadowProtect every week to back up my
entire computer - Windows and all - in about 2 hours or less - to a 1
terabyte USB drive. I may buy OEX (www.oehelp.com/OEX/Default.aspx) to keep
two computer's email synchronized. I have a laptop still running XP Pro and
OE6, so maybe this one would be appropriate.

 

[Tae Song]

I did as you suggested. After my files were converted, I started using
Live Mail. I DO NOT LIKE THE LEFT (FOLDERS) COLUMN! I need another email
client. This "Live" stuff tries to make me use functions I do not want.
I do not want to use instant messaging, for example, and I have my own
ways of organizing pictures. So I'll probably uninstall all of the "live"
stuff.

You can hide the Folder Pane. Just move the mouse over the divider until
you get a double arrow and hold down the left mouse button and slide it left
and it will only show some icons.