Windows 7 email program?

[Tae Song]

I, too, dislike WLM which I am using installed for mail and newsgroups
only. However I would put up with it were it not for the fact that it
intermittently freezes my PC so that Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't work leaving me
with no option than to reach for the reset button. I am hoping that when I
clean install Win 7 later this month WLM will work impeccably. Googling
for
["Windows Live Mail" crash] produces 262,000 hits which suggests it is
seriously unreliable.
Doug

I don't like WLM either. I'm not sure what I'm going do except make sure
I don't update all my machines to Win7.

steve





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I use Windows Live Mail all the time and I don't have any problems with it.

I use it for email and reading news groups.

You can disable Windows Live Messenger automatically coming up by going to
Tools -> Options -> General tab and unchecking "Automatically log on to
Windows Live Messenger."

 

[Sam Hobbs]

The registry can be intimidating, mainly because Microsoft uses confusing
terminology about it that is misleading. It is easy to understand of course,
but Microsoft does not make it easy.

I do understand that sometimes after spending many hours trying to learn
many other things, our minds just don't want to do it.

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
after I quit using it for newsgroups. I was getting hangs when
switching frequently between the mail and newsgroup functions.
I still use Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues
to work well under Windows 7.

--
Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/profile/vandermolen

I, too, dislike WLM which I am using installed for mail and newsgroups only.
However I would put up with it were it not for the fact that it
intermittently freezes my PC so that Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't work leaving me
with no option than to reach for the reset button. I am hoping that when I
clean install Win 7 later this month WLM will work impeccably. Googling for
["Windows Live Mail" crash] produces 262,000 hits which suggests it is
seriously unreliable.
Doug

I don't like WLM either. I'm not sure what I'm going do except make sure
I don't update all my machines to Win7.

steve





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[Gary VanderMolen]

BASIC is not optimized for scientific or financial applications.
In college I used Fortran for my engineering classes.

 

[t-4-2]

I know that. I finished College in 1967, no computer classes back then.
I took computer programming lessons in Community College in early 80s out of
curiosity. I was one of those idiots who bought a Commodore and didn't know
what to do with it. Basic language was the logical choice for a novice.

t-4-2

 

[CWLee]

"Windows Live Mail has behaved impeccably for me, but only
after I quit using it for newsgroups. ... I still use
Windows Mail for newsgroups, and that function continues to
work well under Windows 7."

That suggests that if and when I download WLM it will not
automatically delete, or even render inoperative, WM. It
that correct? If so that sounds like good news to me, since
I could try WLM and if I don't like it I could then easily
revert to WM. Any comments, recommendations, or suggested
sources of info about how a novice might manage this
simultaneous use of both WM and WLM?

Many thanks.

 

[t-4-2]

Pardon me for butting in.....
CWLee,
There is nothing to " manage ".
WLM and WM will co-exist. You do have to assign one as the Default program,
and each time you open the non-default one, you'll be asked if you want to
change it to default. Just click NO.
Yes, if you do not like WLM, just switch default back to WM, and leave WLM
alone.
You could un-install WLM if you did not like it, although I wouldn't do
that, personally.
If you do decide to download/install WLM, pay attention to the prompts.
There are " related " programs offered, i.e. Windows Live Messenger, Write
etc., you can decide which to accept and which to decline. You don't have to
take any of those.

t-4-2

 

[CWLee]

Pardon me for butting in.....

As far as I'm concerned, no apology needed. I welcome
wisdom, insight, and winning lottery numbers regardless of
the source!

WLM and WM will co-exist. You do have to assign one as the
Default program, ...

That all sounds very good to me!

Thanks.

 

[Paul H]

Me too, beaupark! So there is a conversion tool that will convert all of my
folders? I thought I'd have to import one folder at a time.
Thanks,
Paul

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
I've been running both programs simultaneously since
February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

I've heard from several people who do so successfully.

 

[aussieann]

Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ... does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will be available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
Mail ???

Ann


Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
I've been running both programs simultaneously since
February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).

 

[t-4-2]

Yes. If you know how to " hack " it.

t-4-2

Have been following this thread with interest .... from what you say ...
does that mean that when a new computer is purchased with
Windows 7 as the system and therefor no email client, that WinMail will be
available to use on that system alongside Windows Live
Mail ???

Ann


Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
I've been running both programs simultaneously since
February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7.
You don't need to do anything special. If you want all
incoming emails to go to both programs, configure WM to
leave a copy on the server (which is the default setting in WLM).

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.

I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.


I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.

 

[aussieann]

Many thanks for your reply ... I was aware of that hack but was hoping that it wouldn't be necessary, and I sincerely hope that
future upgrades do 'not' make WM even less compatible :- ((( ...... WLM in it's present state is not HTML scripted stationery user
friendly and to upgrade solely to that program is not an option for the thousands of people in the stationery world ... to be able
to use it in conjunction with WM .... using WLM as the default but able to send the HTML scripted stationery by WinMail is the only
option we can see at the moment ... other than having 2 computers of course ... lol

Ann

There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail in
Win7. It requires you to copy the C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
from a working Vista computer to the Win7 computer. There are
limitations to that hack. For one thing, it doesn't allow WM to be
set as the default mail client. That means, for example, when you
click on a mail link on a web page, WM can't handle it.

I only use the newsgroups function of WM in Win7, because
newsgroups seldom need any 'default' protocol actions from the OS.


I suspect that future Windows Updates may make WM even less
compatible. You might as well see the handwriting on the wall and
upgrade to Windows Live Mail now.

 

[aussieann]

Thanks t-4-2 .... I am aware of that hack ... guess I was kinda hoping MS had listened to the many pleas from the stationery makers
and decided to make WM available as well as WLM .... naive but one can but hope ... lmao

Ann

Yes. If you know how to " hack " it.

t-4-2

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

You're very welcome, Ann.
I'm not into stationery or editing HTML source code, and I guess
MS feels not enough of its users are, otherwise they'd make it
more of a priority.

 

[CWLee]

Gary, I'm confused by your statements. On October 11,
above, you said:

"Both mail programs will coexist very nicely. In fact,
I've been running both programs simultaneously since
February 2007, initially on Vista, now on Windows 7. You
don't need to do anything special. ... ".

Then today, October 12, you say:

"There is a hack available to allow some use of Windows Mail
in
Win7. ... There are limitations to that hack. For one
thing, it doesn't allow WM to be set as the default mail
client."

To make things murkier for me, t-4-2 wrote, on October 11:

"WLM and WM will co-exist. You do have to assign one as the
Default program, and each time you open the non-default one,
you'll be asked if you want to change it to default. Just
click NO."

Further clarification appreciated, not just from Gary and
t-4-2, but from anyone with experience using both MW and
MLM.

Thanks.

 

[t-4-2]

When Gary mentioned WM could not be default, it applied in Win7.
When I said " switching " default between WM and WLM, I was talking about
Vista, NOT Win7.

t-4-2

 

[Steve Cochran]

Fortran was abandoned by MS for the PC, so I used compiled BASIC for many of
my scientific programs back in the 80's and 90's. It was the most viable
option for the PC. Then MS abandoned that for Windows and its subsequent
languages, of which Fortran is not included.

steve

BASIC is not optimized for scientific or financial applications.
In college I used Fortran for my engineering classes.