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Shaun Dickinson
Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
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kirk jim
Vista is a pile of dog doo doo.....
the only interesting thing its got is the 3d desktop... but there are no
applications yet
that take advantage of that. On the otherhand with vista you open yourself
to
a huge list of problems... and if you join that with bad design concepts...
Vista is a flop.... get it only if you are buying a new computer with some
OS preinstalled..
and the pc you are getting is a dual core with at least 2 gigs of ram.
the only interesting thing its got is the 3d desktop... but there are no
applications yet
that take advantage of that. On the otherhand with vista you open yourself
to
a huge list of problems... and if you join that with bad design concepts...
Vista is a flop.... get it only if you are buying a new computer with some
OS preinstalled..
and the pc you are getting is a dual core with at least 2 gigs of ram.
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Richard Urban
Can you read?
Search Vista in Google and make up your own mind. Then you will be able to
filter out the Cra* from both sides of the fence.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User
Search Vista in Google and make up your own mind. Then you will be able to
filter out the Cra* from both sides of the fence.
--
Regards,
Richard Urban MVP
Microsoft Windows Shell/User
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CanaKiwi
I have it running on new hardware with plenty of RAM and I love it.
M
mikeyhsd
vista works for some and does not for others, usually because of their own failings.
you can probably expect problems with 3rd party programs that have YET to be updated to visa as well as drivers for your devices that also have yet to be upgraded for vista.
run the upgrade advisor and then do some checking on your own for programs and drivers.
every computer is different.
you should have at least 20gb of free disk space, video with 256mb of mem and 1gb of system memory.
to assist with successful install it is best to disable uninstall any extra devices you do not need during the install.
like extra hard drives, serial/parallel ports, usb ports and for sure turn off over clocking.
(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com
Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
you can probably expect problems with 3rd party programs that have YET to be updated to visa as well as drivers for your devices that also have yet to be upgraded for vista.
run the upgrade advisor and then do some checking on your own for programs and drivers.
every computer is different.
you should have at least 20gb of free disk space, video with 256mb of mem and 1gb of system memory.
to assist with successful install it is best to disable uninstall any extra devices you do not need during the install.
like extra hard drives, serial/parallel ports, usb ports and for sure turn off over clocking.
(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com
Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
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ray
Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
I expect if you ask ten people you will get at least 15 different views.
I've seen several other consultants advise to wait for at least SP1 - I
concur.
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Brandon
Vista has some decent improvements, but overall it's not a "killer app".
I've had more problems than successes . . . I would advise most people to
just wait until they need a new computer.
Brandon
I've had more problems than successes . . . I would advise most people to
just wait until they need a new computer.
Brandon
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Art
I like it.
I have it on 4 machines in my house (Home Premium - laptop, video rendering
box, wife, and daughter). Here's what I like (YMMV) :
The Start Menu is cleaner and does occupy your entire screen with the levels
and layers.
I like Flip 3d. I keep alot of windows open and am constantly flipping to
other windows. It's great to see the contents before switching.
If you type the name of a program (Word for example) in the search box on
the start menu, the program launches. No need to click beyond at all if you
don't want to.
It seems faster to me than XP, but then most of my machines have 1-2 GB of
RAM.
I have not had the driver issues some have reported. Maybe I'm lucky. I
also did quite a bit of research with my PCs hardware manufacturers prior to
upgrading. Of course I do know my hardware inside and out as I build my own
machines. I only had 2 issues on 4 machines and I knew them going in (ATI
TV tuner problem - found a work around for it and HP All-In-One scanning
didn't work from wireless, had to attach a USB cable to it to get it to
scan).
The networking seems to make more sense to me for some reason. It seems no
matter what window or dialog I'm in I can access the network without a bunch
of convoluted steps or drive mappings. That might be a perception thing or
something I'm doing wrong, but I'm dumb and happy with it.
I haven't had a BSOD or a program fail on it. My NeroVision used to crash
alot on XP. Hasn't crashed yet on Vista. Even Pinnacle Studio (notorious
for crashing in early releases) seems to work smoothly.
I don't seem to get lock-ups.
I like OneCare (yeah I know, flame away). I was using it on XP and it
integrates well with Vista.
Office Home and Business - works great on Vista and you can install it on 3
machines.
Windows MovieMaker seems better. Allows DV capture.
It runs all my daughter's games (she especially loves Barbie Beach Vacation
and Arthur).
My hobby is video editing and production. Vista seems to work great with
just about all my software (except Adobe EncoreDVD, but I don't use that
much anyway). Needless to say, I put alot of strain on my PCs. Vista
renders video quickly and doesn't complain in 2 GB ram. I have 2 machines
with AMD X2s in them and 2 with single-core AMD-64s. All run fine on it. I
have machines with ATI graphics (card and integrated, the integrated is a
200M that only has 64 MB shared and Flip 3-d still runs fine on it) and
NVidia 6100s. No problem with Aero on any of them. My Pinnacle MovieBox
captures video very well on it.
Nothing really earth-shattering. I wouldn't call it a killer app. I just
know I like using it better. Maybe that will change after the newness wears
off.
P.S. My wife is somewhat change resistant when it comes to software and
even she thinks it's easier to use. My 5 year old just likes all the pretty
colors on her machine, sigh.
Art
I have it on 4 machines in my house (Home Premium - laptop, video rendering
box, wife, and daughter). Here's what I like (YMMV) :
The Start Menu is cleaner and does occupy your entire screen with the levels
and layers.
I like Flip 3d. I keep alot of windows open and am constantly flipping to
other windows. It's great to see the contents before switching.
If you type the name of a program (Word for example) in the search box on
the start menu, the program launches. No need to click beyond at all if you
don't want to.
It seems faster to me than XP, but then most of my machines have 1-2 GB of
RAM.
I have not had the driver issues some have reported. Maybe I'm lucky. I
also did quite a bit of research with my PCs hardware manufacturers prior to
upgrading. Of course I do know my hardware inside and out as I build my own
machines. I only had 2 issues on 4 machines and I knew them going in (ATI
TV tuner problem - found a work around for it and HP All-In-One scanning
didn't work from wireless, had to attach a USB cable to it to get it to
scan).
The networking seems to make more sense to me for some reason. It seems no
matter what window or dialog I'm in I can access the network without a bunch
of convoluted steps or drive mappings. That might be a perception thing or
something I'm doing wrong, but I'm dumb and happy with it.
I haven't had a BSOD or a program fail on it. My NeroVision used to crash
alot on XP. Hasn't crashed yet on Vista. Even Pinnacle Studio (notorious
for crashing in early releases) seems to work smoothly.
I don't seem to get lock-ups.
I like OneCare (yeah I know, flame away). I was using it on XP and it
integrates well with Vista.
Office Home and Business - works great on Vista and you can install it on 3
machines.
Windows MovieMaker seems better. Allows DV capture.
It runs all my daughter's games (she especially loves Barbie Beach Vacation
and Arthur).
My hobby is video editing and production. Vista seems to work great with
just about all my software (except Adobe EncoreDVD, but I don't use that
much anyway). Needless to say, I put alot of strain on my PCs. Vista
renders video quickly and doesn't complain in 2 GB ram. I have 2 machines
with AMD X2s in them and 2 with single-core AMD-64s. All run fine on it. I
have machines with ATI graphics (card and integrated, the integrated is a
200M that only has 64 MB shared and Flip 3-d still runs fine on it) and
NVidia 6100s. No problem with Aero on any of them. My Pinnacle MovieBox
captures video very well on it.
Nothing really earth-shattering. I wouldn't call it a killer app. I just
know I like using it better. Maybe that will change after the newness wears
off.
P.S. My wife is somewhat change resistant when it comes to software and
even she thinks it's easier to use. My 5 year old just likes all the pretty
colors on her machine, sigh.
Art
K
kirk jim
The Start Menu is cleaner and does occupy your entire screen with the
thats exactly what I absolutly HATE about the new start menu and I will
PROVE that its
a stupid idea!
await new posts...
levels and layers.
thats exactly what I absolutly HATE about the new start menu and I will
PROVE that its
a stupid idea!
await new posts...
P
philo
Shaun Dickinson said:Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
I gave Vista a try...and actually prefer XP!
If you have all new and very high-end hardware though Vista would probably
be OK...
but I didn't really find anything special about it.
If you are getting a new machine and it comes with Vista...I'm sure it would
be fine...
but if you are currently running XP...I'd say to just keep things as they
are and not upgrade
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Stan Nelson
Visioneer is supposed to have Vista-compatible drivers for its scanners in
May, 2007. When I have a scanner driver that works with Vista, I'll install
Ultimate (which I have), and will try to form a more careful opinion at that
point.
Stan Nelson
Dallas.
May, 2007. When I have a scanner driver that works with Vista, I'll install
Ultimate (which I have), and will try to form a more careful opinion at that
point.
Stan Nelson
Dallas.
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Swanso
Use plain text for newsgroups you fool.
vista works for some and does not for others, usually because of their own
failings.
you can probably expect problems with 3rd party programs that have YET to
be updated to visa as well as drivers for your devices that also have yet to
be upgraded for vista.
run the upgrade advisor and then do some checking on your own for programs
and drivers.
every computer is different.
you should have at least 20gb of free disk space, video with 256mb of mem
and 1gb of system memory.
to assist with successful install it is best to disable uninstall any extra
devices you do not need during the install.
like extra hard drives, serial/parallel ports, usb ports and for sure turn
off over clocking.
(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com
vista works for some and does not for others, usually because of their own
failings.
you can probably expect problems with 3rd party programs that have YET to
be updated to visa as well as drivers for your devices that also have yet to
be upgraded for vista.
run the upgrade advisor and then do some checking on your own for programs
and drivers.
every computer is different.
you should have at least 20gb of free disk space, video with 256mb of mem
and 1gb of system memory.
to assist with successful install it is best to disable uninstall any extra
devices you do not need during the install.
like extra hard drives, serial/parallel ports, usb ports and for sure turn
off over clocking.
(e-mail address removed)@sport.rr.com
S
Stephan Rose
kirk said:thats exactly what I absolutly HATE about the new start menu and I will
PROVE that its
a stupid idea!
I had the suspicion it would do that when I saw a screenshot of the initial
start menu when you just click the start button.
Personally I don't like that idea either. I want my start menu to be as
small and compact as possible.
Even in XP I always set it to use the classic mode from win9X and I love the
fact that it remembers the apps I actually use therefore keeping the menu
as small and compact as possible!
XP simply just makes sense...
Vista simply just doesn't...
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Stephan Rose
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Justin
Stephan Rose said:I had the suspicion it would do that when I saw a screenshot of the
initial
start menu when you just click the start button.
Personally I don't like that idea either. I want my start menu to be as
small and compact as possible.
??? I think Art meant to use doesN'T (is that right or wrong Art?). The
Vista start menu is smaller then XP.
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Stephan Rose
Justin said:??? I think Art meant to use doesN'T (is that right or wrong Art?). The
Vista start menu is smaller then XP.
http://70.85.12.163/albino_vista/Startmenu1b(www.albinoblacksheep.com).png
http://www.geekpedia.com/pics/VistaScreenshots/Start Menu Tooltip.PNG
http://www.winsupersite.com/images/showcase/vista5270_002.jpg
Way larger than my XP start menu...
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Stephan Rose
Here are the URLS as TinyURLs, I didn't pay much attention to them at first
how weird they were...
http://tinyurl.com/3558le
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how weird they were...
http://tinyurl.com/3558le
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Justin
http://70.85.12.163/albino_vista/Startmenu1b(www.albinoblacksheep.com).png
It's a little bit taller depending on how you have it setup however it
doesn't blow up all over your desktop like XP with it's "levels and layers."
Even this isn't RTM but it's a much better example, first Google pic I
found:
http://elliottback.com/wp/wp-content/windows-vista-5231-04.jpg
From this menu you don't branch out all over the desktop.
Sure, at 640X480 maybe. Those are bad examples.http://www.geekpedia.com/pics/VistaScreenshots/Start Menu Tooltip.PNG
That is not RTM
Way larger than my XP start menu...
It's a little bit taller depending on how you have it setup however it
doesn't blow up all over your desktop like XP with it's "levels and layers."
Even this isn't RTM but it's a much better example, first Google pic I
found:
http://elliottback.com/wp/wp-content/windows-vista-5231-04.jpg
From this menu you don't branch out all over the desktop.
L
LaRoux
Use a reader that can support whatever is posted and you won't have to worry
about spamming everyone with your insults.
about spamming everyone with your insults.
L
LaRoux
I run Vista because it's the current technology. I'm a software architect
and it just doesn't make sense not to start abandoning the obsolete XP for
the current Vista. I could add individual likes and dislikes but in the end,
it doesn't matter because it's not up to me. The train has left the station
and you can either jump on or be left behind.
and it just doesn't make sense not to start abandoning the obsolete XP for
the current Vista. I could add individual likes and dislikes but in the end,
it doesn't matter because it's not up to me. The train has left the station
and you can either jump on or be left behind.
C
Cymbal Man Freq.
| On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:57:47 +0000, Shaun Dickinson wrote:
|
| > Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
|
| I expect if you ask ten people you will get at least 15 different views.
| I've seen several other consultants advise to wait for at least SP1 - I
| concur.
I'd wait until Blu-Ray drives are $50 and they don't get their approved drivers
revoked by Vista.
|
| > Can anyone tell me if vista has any good points at all over xp ?
|
| I expect if you ask ten people you will get at least 15 different views.
| I've seen several other consultants advise to wait for at least SP1 - I
| concur.
I'd wait until Blu-Ray drives are $50 and they don't get their approved drivers
revoked by Vista.
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