Splash Screen Changed After SP2

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David W.

I don't know if this has already been mentioned in here
or not, but I want to mention it anyway. Why did
microsoft have to change our boot/splash screen after
installing SP2 ? Now...as I understand, everyone that
installs the SP2 update has the same basic boot screen.
Whether or not you have xp home edition or professional,
it just simply says windows xp. Also, the progress bar is
is blue, no matter if you have xp home or professional. I
really wish that they would have left that alone. I guess
the only way to correct this is to make a copy of the
ntoskrnl.exe original boot screen file. Save it somewhere
in a safe place, and then after installing SP2, replace
the newly created file with the original one that you
copied and saved. I also wish that microsft had setup a
totally seperate newsgroup, JUST for discussing XP SP2 .
 
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Carey Frisch [MVP]

Yes the boot screen is the same when SP2 is installed.
Why it was changed is really not known. Are you
mesmerized with the boot screen?

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| I don't know if this has already been mentioned in here
| or not, but I want to mention it anyway. Why did
| microsoft have to change our boot/splash screen after
| installing SP2 ? Now...as I understand, everyone that
| installs the SP2 update has the same basic boot screen.
| Whether or not you have xp home edition or professional,
| it just simply says windows xp. Also, the progress bar is
| is blue, no matter if you have xp home or professional. I
| really wish that they would have left that alone. I guess
| the only way to correct this is to make a copy of the
| ntoskrnl.exe original boot screen file. Save it somewhere
| in a safe place, and then after installing SP2, replace
| the newly created file with the original one that you
| copied and saved. I also wish that microsft had setup a
| totally seperate newsgroup, JUST for discussing XP SP2 .
 
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Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

Carey Frisch said:
Yes the boot screen is the same when SP2 is installed.
Why it was changed is really not known. Are you
mesmerized with the boot screen?

The change reduces the test matrix and uses more common code across all
Windows XP derivatives.

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Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

David W. said:
I don't know if this has already been mentioned in here
or not, but I want to mention it anyway. Why did
microsoft have to change our boot/splash screen after
installing SP2 ? Now...as I understand, everyone that
installs the SP2 update has the same basic boot screen.
Whether or not you have xp home edition or professional,
it just simply says windows xp. Also, the progress bar is
is blue, no matter if you have xp home or professional. I
really wish that they would have left that alone. I guess
the only way to correct this is to make a copy of the
ntoskrnl.exe original boot screen file. Save it somewhere
in a safe place, and then after installing SP2, replace
the newly created file with the original one that you
copied and saved. I also wish that microsft had setup a
totally seperate newsgroup, JUST for discussing XP SP2 .

David,

Yes your question has been covered a number of times.
Do not take binaries from Pre SP2 and try and retro fit them to an SP2
system.
The splash screen is only visible for a few seconds so is really of no
concern to most users.
The discussion about a separate group for SP2 has also already been had.
There is no requirement for it - the groups are organised by technology
areas and if your question is about one of these areas and you have SP2 then
you mention it when you provide the necessary detail to help those who wish
to help you assist.

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David W.

NO...I'm NOT in some sort of a trance or anything due to
the modified boot/splash screen in SP2. I just wish that
microsoft would have left that area alone so that the
proper xp edition would still be shown. So if I try and
change the ntoskrnl.exe file after SP2 update with the
original file it won't work ?? That seems rather odd.
 
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Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

David W. said:
NO...I'm NOT in some sort of a trance or anything due to
the modified boot/splash screen in SP2. I just wish that
microsoft would have left that area alone so that the
proper xp edition would still be shown. So if I try and
change the ntoskrnl.exe file after SP2 update with the
original file it won't work ?? That seems rather odd.

David,

I must be missing your point somewhere - the splash screen on my fastest PCs
is only visible for a few seconds at best, and that relies on me sitting in
front of it with the monitor on. usually you just the push the power button
as you are doing other things turn around and it is ready to logon.
Why do you feel the display of the word Home, Professional, TabletPC or
Media Center are so important for a few seconds ?
And yes taking one of the primary kernel files from an pre SP2 system and
trying to use it on a SP2 system is a very bad idea. Bare in mind that the
kernel and a number of low level system components were changed by SP2 and
mixing pre and SP2 files may lead to some sever issues.


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Rock

David said:
NO...I'm NOT in some sort of a trance or anything due to
the modified boot/splash screen in SP2. I just wish that
microsoft would have left that area alone so that the
proper xp edition would still be shown. So if I try and
change the ntoskrnl.exe file after SP2 update with the
original file it won't work ?? That seems rather odd.


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David W.

I was just refering to one of the previous responses to
my original message, about where someone said something
about it had me "mesmerized". I just couldn't figure out
why the xp boot screen had to be changed.
 
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Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

David W. said:
I was just refering to one of the previous responses to
my original message, about where someone said something
about it had me "mesmerized". I just couldn't figure out
why the xp boot screen had to be changed.

If you wish to make a comment about Carey's post the you should reply to
them and not someone else.

The reason for the change is covered in my first reply to Carey on this
thread.

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Dale Richards

David said:
I guess
the only way to correct this is to make a copy of the
ntoskrnl.exe original boot screen file. Save it somewhere
in a safe place, and then after installing SP2, replace
the newly created file with the original one that you
copied and saved.

Don't do that. The ntoskrnl.exe file is a critical system file and contains
far more than just the splash screen.
 
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J. S. Pack

I don't know if this has already been mentioned in here
or not, but I want to mention it anyway. Why did
microsoft have to change our boot/splash screen after
installing SP2 ? Now...as I understand, everyone that
installs the SP2 update has the same basic boot screen.
Whether or not you have xp home edition or professional,
it just simply says windows xp. Also, the progress bar is
is blue, no matter if you have xp home or professional. I
really wish that they would have left that alone. I guess
the only way to correct this is to make a copy of the
ntoskrnl.exe original boot screen file. Save it somewhere
in a safe place, and then after installing SP2, replace
the newly created file with the original one that you
copied and saved. I also wish that microsft had setup a
totally seperate newsgroup, JUST for discussing XP SP2 .

I can't see why you'd want to see either M'soft advertisement as your
bootscreen. I lost no time in changing mine soon as I upgraded to XP.

Just change the boot screen to anything you want using free bootskin from
stardock or logonguibootrandomizer you can get at
http://www.belchfire.net/~userxp. Either work fine w/ SP2.

There's some really nice stuff out there.
 
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Alex Nichol

David said:
I don't know if this has already been mentioned in here
or not, but I want to mention it anyway. Why did
microsoft have to change our boot/splash screen after
installing SP2 ? Now...as I understand, everyone that
installs the SP2 update has the same basic boot screen.
Whether or not you have xp home edition or professional,
it just simply says windows xp.

There are also the Media Center and Tablet PC editions. I think they
just did not want to have four flavors of SP2 with four different boot
code files just to have different embedded splash screens
 
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David W.

Thanks for the advice, I guess for now I'll just have to
be content with the splash screen like it is. I sure
don't want to modify a "critical system file" as was
stated previously. At least I can still use my computer,
and as far as knowing which edition of xp that I have
installed, of course it says that on the start menu
border and elsewhere. Have a GREAT day !
 
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Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

Bobby said:
Sounds to me like Microsoft decided to cut some corners instead of doing
it
right.

Bobby

"Doing it right" is not spending development and testing time on a trivial
cosmetic feature and allowing dev and test to focus on real issues and
technologies in the product.

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R. McCarty

It's interesting that users don't concentrate on the important aspects of
SP2,
but that the Splash Screen gets so much attention. It's almost like taking
out
those few characters makes people think something is missing/removed in
Service Pack 2.
 
G

Gordie

In other words let's get our priorities right, but here *you* are weighing
in on a discussion most would view as unimportant!
As I am sure you are aware, bigger issues abound in this NG.
 
G

Guest

Perhaps the reason the splash screen gets so much attention is because it's
the first thing seen on reboot after SP 2 install. The change is instantly
noted and the operator, feeling cheated , wonders what else is missing in SP
2 besides the Windows version. First impressions are very important!
As far as importance of issues goes, yes there are bigger ones, but any
complaint, problem, or concern, no matter how small, should not be simply
brushed off as unimportant.
My definition of "Doing it Right" is attention to all details no matter how
small or trivial they may seem. Making a generic screen is definitely a lack
of attention to detail and a complete disregard for the customer.
My only resolve here was to remove the service pack as Microsoft is
unwilling to address this issue.

Bobby

Gordie said:
In other words let's get our priorities right, but here *you* are weighing
in on a discussion most would view as unimportant!
As I am sure you are aware, bigger issues abound in this NG.
 
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Rock

Bobby said:
Perhaps the reason the splash screen gets so much attention is because it's
the first thing seen on reboot after SP 2 install. The change is instantly
noted and the operator, feeling cheated , wonders what else is missing in SP
2 besides the Windows version. First impressions are very important!
As far as importance of issues goes, yes there are bigger ones, but any
complaint, problem, or concern, no matter how small, should not be simply
brushed off as unimportant.
My definition of "Doing it Right" is attention to all details no matter how
small or trivial they may seem. Making a generic screen is definitely a lack
of attention to detail and a complete disregard for the customer.
My only resolve here was to remove the service pack as Microsoft is
unwilling to address this issue.

Bobby

<snip>

Hard to see how this has anything to do with "a lack of attention to
detail" and especially, "complete disregard of the customer".
LOL..you're going to remove SP2 because of the splash screen issue?
More power to you.
 
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Mike Brannigan [MSFT]

Bobby,

Are you really going to remove SP2 because your PC no longer says Home,
Professional, TabletPC or Media Center Edition for 10 seconds (10 seconds
being the time it is displayed on a couple of my machines if I actually sit
at the monitor and watch the boot process during boot up) ?
Would you also remove it if we left the product name but changed the
copyright date ? (which we did).
Your need to read and understand the actual real work we did in SP2 to
improve the stability and security of the Windows XP operating systems.

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