Pricelessware CD: Stage 1 Wrap-up

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Susan Bugher

David said:
On 13 Apr 2004 03:34:04 -0000, Anonymous
<[email protected]> typed furiously:

FYI: Posts by Anonymous <[email protected]> are - as far
as I am concerned *non-existent* - my news server doesn't carry them. I
only know he has *sent* a post when someone posts a response. . .

This *has* been discussed at some length. Anonymous is aware of the
problem - he knows that his use of anonymous remailers is the cause and
he *knows* I won't see his posts.
The rest of the comments are, I feel, mostly accurate. Please note for
the next CD.

That's a bit difficult to do. . .

Susan
 
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Anonymous

|Why IE? Shouldn't you use the default browser?

My bad. As far as I know it launches the default browser. I know
it launches WinRAR which is set to handle my .rar files.

-=-
 
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Anonymous

|I don't think this is wise if you intend to distribute copies with the
|changes that you have made.

I didn't decide that yet. I have no problem showing friends the
two different CD's and letting them decide which they want.

|The dvdsig is _invaluable_ in maintaining the intergrity of the CD.
|
|It is also very easy to use. Rather than check the .md5 file for each
|program, the receiver of the image should run the dvdsig program to
|determine the checksums of what is on the CD at that point in time.
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|THEN, the receiver downloads the official .md5 file and runs dvdsig
|again VERIFYING that the newly created .md5 file matches the official
|.md5 file. It is very easy to do and requires 1 minute or less to do.
|Frankly, it is impossible to change 1 bit and have two files that
|verify.

Yes it is very easy to use. Unless it is the first thing to load
then most people are not going to run dvdsig. People look and
see that the CD comes from Pricelessware. They know the site,
they know the people. They trust Pricelessware. They won't
bother running the test.

Maybe I am taking it wrong. There just seems to be a lot of
paranoia that there will be(or is) some group of evil doers that
want to bring Pricelessware down as all costs. I think if you
get a couple of wingnuts that actually alter the CD in a bad way
that they will be the exception not the rule.

From what I have read people are acting like the dvdsig will
stop a "counterfeit" CD from being made and distributed. It only
works if people run the test. Otherwise it's just a bunch of
files on a CD.

|I saw the warez crowd got wind of the CD. It would be pretty bad if
|copies start circulating that contain warez, cracks, serials, worms,
|etc. in what "appears" to be a PL CD.

Yes I agree that would be a bad thing. About the only thing that
could be done to put information on the Pricelessware site to
the effect of

"These are the offical download links for the ISO (insert links.
Priclessware cannot and will not guarantee an ISO downloaded
from anything but offical download sites. If you download from
another site you do so at your own risk"

Geuss you could do one for the burners as well. However this
kind of kills the whole idea of

I download the ISO and make a copy fro a friend who makes a copy
for someone else who makes a copy for someone else and so on.

|The verification is extremely
|important. Removing the program and info can spoil a very great
|volunteer effort that you spearheaded.

|I disagree. I think it worked out fantastically.

I can live with that. You're still on the xmas list :) I think
some of it worked out great. I just think that there should have
been more effort in the presintation and the basic stuff.

-=-
 
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Richard Steven Hack

I'm downloading now via your tracker using TorrentStorm V1.1 and will
try to seed (TorrentStorm does this automatically apparently) once
it's down, although I can't guarantee how long I'll keep it going.

This is my first torrent download so we'll see how it goes.

Apparently it went well - I have the ISO, TorrentStorm has seeded it
and it has been uploading all day long. I will probably shut it down
tonight as it is hobbling my bandwidth for other Net uses. But I may
just pause it and let it run the rest of the night once I'm done on
the Net.

Currently showing around 26Kbps upload speed, torrent rate between 97
and 100 (whatever that is!), 0 seeds and 7 or 8 peers.
 
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IamMe

Oh boy, am I feeling jealous!!

Comcast is my friend. :)
Having got 150k cable broadband - i thought it was great, now yeukkkk.

Comcast recently doubled the bandwidth from 1.5MB to 3.0MB. My average
D/L runs at 475Kbps.
having read about the ISO now being available, I decided to have a go
using star down loader. I finally succeeded after 8.75 HOURS to get

GAH! You could have done as good with dialup. :/
it down, then on checking the result after burning, this is the result
I got.

The data is invalid. Programs\V\Visual Thought\VT14.EXE
The data is invalid. Programs\P\Pegasus Mail\w32-412a.exe
The data is invalid. Programs\A\Aida32\aida32ee_393.exe
Total:273 OK:270 Bad:3 Missing:0
The operation completed successfully. 273 files, 524MB, 450s

I had no problems. I burned the image with DeepBurner.
Ah well, back to the drawing board, My blank disk and SAE are now in
the post.

Bummer.

EH
 
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Matt

I appreciate the help - and I like early post mortems. I have considered
linking that way - it would solve *many* of the problems - but I'm still
hoping to find an even better solution. :)

It might not compress WELL, but having the ISO travel inside a RAR or
7Z file means the archiver can verify error-free extraction.

PS. might have been nice to frontend it with Multi Install
http://www.nikse.dk/
http://multiinstall.sourceforge.net/

http://multiinstall.sourceforge.net/classic.html Classic view
http://users.cybercity.dk/~dsl133261/home.html - Skinned view

I guess it also needs nominating for the next PW,
as it's one hell of a CD menu builder.
 
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Susan Bugher

Ben said:
Susan Bugher wrote:
[...] (How do I post maniacal laughter?) ;)

That would depend on the social disorder you suffer from.
For you, I suppose that would be "voluntarius cumulatus". :)

My high school Latin being a "few" (cough, cough) years behind me. . .

my first thought was "volunteer with her head in the clouds" (Cumulus,
Nimbus etc.) ;) however, Google was my friend and enlightened me.

I then wandered down a few byways, like Bjorn I found a few goodies. . .

lead me not into any more temptation. . . ;)

I'd like to close by paying *you* a pretty compliment in Greek or
Sumerian, but lack the strength to do the necessary research. . . :)

Susan
 
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Susan Bugher

Matt said:
It might not compress WELL, but having the ISO travel inside a RAR or
7Z file means the archiver can verify error-free extraction.

PS. might have been nice to frontend it with Multi Install
http://www.nikse.dk/
http://multiinstall.sourceforge.net/

http://multiinstall.sourceforge.net/classic.html Classic view
http://users.cybercity.dk/~dsl133261/home.html - Skinned view

I guess it also needs nominating for the next PW,
as it's one hell of a CD menu builder.

Hi Matt,

I took a quick look - what I saw was a tree that allows the user to
select and install the program files. . .

I'd like to display a menu that allows the user to view the readme.txt
or the HTML pages or the files. Can Multi Install do that?

Susan
 
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Matt

Hi Matt,

I took a quick look - what I saw was a tree that allows the user to
select and install the program files. . .

I'd like to display a menu that allows the user to view the readme.txt
or the HTML pages or the files. Can Multi Install do that?

The "More" Option allows a Readme/NFO/HTML file to be displayed
Some other files can also be added as an "install" and the button will
change to "View".

To be honest, a long time since I used it - and it's rather heavy
going - powerful, but rather tedious.
 
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Susan Bugher

Matt said:
The "More" Option allows a Readme/NFO/HTML file to be displayed
Some other files can also be added as an "install" and the button will
change to "View".

To be honest, a long time since I used it - and it's rather heavy
going - powerful, but rather tedious.

Thanks Matt. The additional info is appreciated.

Susan
 
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Trey Hunner

Ninou said the following on 4/14/2004 3:20 AM:
I have downloaded the iso and now i seed it too.

I appreciate your effort. Thank you for seeding and helping benefit the
rest of us. :)
 

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