Please avoid Vista like the plague

[Alias]

Reading a post or two off COLA isn't "research", Alias, sorry to burst
your bubble.

Saucy Lemon

You also don't know what research I've done so you haven't burst
anyone's bubble unless you're chewing bubble gum.

Alias

 

[Saucy Lemon]

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

 

[Saucy Lemon]

Point us to the report.

You also don't know what research I've done so you haven't burst anyone's
bubble unless you're chewing bubble gum.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Lots of assumptions there. If there is a big net at the bottom and
you are a stunt person getting paid $100 an hour to do it, then it's a
great idea.

Mike

If I had some ham, I'd have some ham and eggs, if I had some eggs.

I meant, of course, with no net and no pay.

Alias

 

[CybrGuy]

I couldn't agree more Steve. Last week I "cleaned up" a friends computer
that had McAffee, which had expired in 2004! The PC was always
connected to the internet, with a 5 MB connection no less, thru a modem
with no router. Not one doggone virus, ad, or spyware on that machine.

Well, that's just dumb luck...

 

[Alias]

Point us to the report.

I have been researching Vista for some time now and have read hundreds
of articles about it and these newsgroups. It's obvious that the prudent
thing to do is wait.

Alias

 

[Saucy Lemon]

All that "research" and no report? I guess it's all in your head then?

Alias, right now Vista RTM is an its early adoption phase. Sure some people
should wait. Others shouldn't because whatever they encounter is easily
solved and they get to enjoy a better operating system. I was running Vista
last year: Beta 1, 2 and the RCs. It depends on the situation.

Saucy Lemon

 

[Nina DiBoy]

How do you know he doesn't have any experience with Vista? Making
assumptions like this doesn't help your case. He actually happens to be
correct on a great many things.

Yep, Alias seems to be one of the few wisemen of the group.

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[Richard Urban]

Prudent for you, maybe not so for others. That is why people were given a
mind to think with. It enables them to make their OWN choice after studying
the options.

I don't think that your incessant downing of Vista (seems kind self serving
on your part, to those who read your comments) is going to change many
peoples minds about Vista. Remember, the vast majority of the people who
come here "ALREADY HAVE IT".

So, you are just blowing in the wind, no matter what you may say. People are
not going to scrap what they have done and return the operating system just
because Ali ASS has told them to.

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Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Nina DiBoy]

Reading a post or two off COLA isn't "research", Alias, sorry to burst
your bubble.

Saucy Lemon

Oh please. I have also been learning alot about Vista. I have been
researching it as well, for over a year. I have also learned alot from
alias as well as some other good posters in these groups about Vista.
You can't back up your poast boasts about any lack of research.



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[Saucy Lemon]

He's "researched" it so thoroughly? He's never even installed it .. And
reading rant post (against Microsoft) at COLA does not count as research.

Saucy Lemon

 

[Nina DiBoy]

Prudent for you, maybe not so for others. That is why people were given
a mind to think with. It enables them to make their OWN choice after
studying the options.

I don't think that your incessant downing of Vista (seems kind self
serving on your part, to those who read your comments)

Noone beats you at being self serving.

is going to
change many peoples minds about Vista. Remember, the vast majority of
the people who come here "ALREADY HAVE IT".

So, you are just blowing in the wind,

What do you call this diatribe, Dick?

no matter what you may say. People
are not going to scrap what they have done and return the operating
system just because Ali ASS has told them to.

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[Nina DiBoy]

He's "researched" it so thoroughly? He's never even installed it .. And
reading rant post (against Microsoft) at COLA does not count as research.

Saucy Lemon

You realise that attacking someone's knowledge or intelligence is about
as mature as attacking a typo?



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[XJNINE]

I have been researching Vista for some time now and have read hundreds of
articles about it and these newsgroups. It's obvious that the prudent
thing to do is wait.

I own Vista but I agree with you. There are SOOOO many programs I have that
will not run or run right in Vista. I have to use a generic video driver
because my Hyundai 19 inch monitor has no Vista driver. Delorme Topo 6
doesn't show 3d graphics but does in XP. Street Atlas 8.0 won't even install
in Vista. And about a dozen more. And the performance of the stuff that
does work is about 20 slower in Vista than XP. And the defrag program really
is horrible in Vista. I dual boot, I have Vista and XP.

XP SP2 is a darn good system.

I don't so much blame MS on this though, they gave private vendors a great
deal of time to get drivers ready for Vista. I don't remember XP being this
bad on drivers when it first came out.

 

[Saucy Lemon]

Why are you even posting here? It's a Microsoft peer-to-peer support
newsgroup. If you feel so strongly why don't you crawl back to COLA or
somesuch? If you don't like Windows use something else .. there are many
operating systems out there. But please for your sake and the rest of us
here, please don't waste your and our time with your hostility and
contrariness.

Saucy Lemon

 

[Saucy Lemon]

But it is not as silly as posting against an OS. If you don't like Windows
use something else. Duh. Free country. You don't have to do anything you
don't want to do, nor work at any job shop that runs Windows nor anything
else you don't like. Why waste time with negativity? If other OSes are so
much better, go support them at their newsgroups.

Saucy Lemon

 

[Bill Condie]

Why does you monitor need a driver?

Re speed, my experience is that it's at least as fast if not faster than XP
Pro SP2 on my machine.

I dual-boot too. I'm about ready to dump XP.

Tonight I romped through three dozen digital pix for a job I'm working.

The quick fixes in Photo Gallery saved me hours in Photoshop where I
fine-tuned everything.

But sure, some programs need to catch up. I just bought a new HP printer and
had to download a temporary driver from HP

 

[Nina DiBoy]

Why are you even posting here? It's a Microsoft peer-to-peer support
newsgroup. If you feel so strongly why don't you crawl back to COLA or
somesuch? If you don't like Windows use something else .. there are
many operating systems out there. But please for your sake and the rest
of us here, please don't waste your and our time with your hostility and
contrariness.

Saucy Lemon

Who are you replying to?

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[Nina DiBoy]

But it is not as silly as posting against an OS. If you don't like
Windows use something else. Duh. Free country. You don't have to do
anything you don't want to do, nor work at any job shop that runs
Windows nor anything else you don't like. Why waste time with
negativity? If other OSes are so much better, go support them at their
newsgroups.

Saucy Lemon

So you are allowed to post your opinion but others are not?



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[Michael Palumbo]

You don't need Vista. If you have a good running XP Pro installation, save
money and build a quad core system and have something truly fast. If you
have XP Home, save money, get Pro, then build Dual or Quad Core and enjoy
a truly fast system.

Don't get sucked into the über graphical GUI. You need a high horsepower
system just to run in it very well. Put XP on said system and you'll get
an extremely fast and relatively light weight OS. All the extra DRM just
adds insult to injury in my book. Factor in the high cost (a new copy of
XP Pro is a fraction of the cost.)

If you need a super graphical interface, get Win Blinds and any of the
Widget software that's been floating out there for years. If you're
worried about DX 10. First, you wont really have software that really uses
it for some time. Second, DX 9 and lower is actually emulated and games
and such that use it run slower on Vista than on XP Pro on the same system
(according to many reviewer I've read.) Lastly, DX 10 will be released or
ported some way or another; the fewer the people that buy Vista will help
expedite this.

So please don't buy into the hype. Please don't waste your money. Stick
with XP (or what ever current OS) if it does everything you need and works
well for you. Please send Redmond a strong message.

Just read this post and all the replies to date . . . I just have one
question for those that don't use Vista and have no plans to install it any
time soon . . .


What are you doing in a Vista group to begin with???


Most of us here have installed Vista, either recently or have been using
Beta and/or RTM versions . . . and we're here either looking for, or giving,
help with problems, so why waste your time, our time and bandwidth with
"Vista blows" or whatever posts?

If you're sticking with XP, great, I have 2 other machines that are going to
stay with XP simply because I see no reason to upgrade them just yet, but my
day-to-day machine has Vista, and has had it since the RTM version came out
as its only OS, removed XP from the boot-menu after a week of running RTM
since I never booted XP after installing Vista RTM.

Hell, if you're running DOS with the DOSSHELL and it works for you,
WONDERFUL! At my previous job we had a computer running DOS and Lotus 1-2-3
to track inventory and in-house charge accounts, worked just fine, and
backups were so simple! (Just copied the floppy that everything was running
on to another floppy every day)

Point is, what IS the point of bashing something you don't use, or touting
advice about aforementioned 'something' when you weren't asked for said
advice, and shouldn't be GIVING said advice since you don't have first hand
knowledge of said 'something'?

Pointless . . . that would be like going into a Lexus forum and telling
everyone not to buy a new model Lexus because the old one works just fine,
and the new one has some bugs because it's a new design. Yes, you would be
correct, but you know what? People in a Lexus forum/newsgroup DON'T CARE
for that advice, they are there because they have, or want, a Lexus and
want to talk to others about it, and maybe ask for some help if they need
it, or give help if someone asks and they know the answer . . .

Okay, I'm done feeding the Trolls for the day . . .
Mic