{PL} Proposed Pricelessware 2004 CD

[Steven Burn]

The EULA covers the program version that contains it.

In other words, an author cannot release several versions with a EULA
stating they are freeware and then write a new EULA on his site that
states they are now shareware. The same is true for whatever methods
of redistribution are, or are not included within a single version.

It is a legally binding contractual agreement that works both ways
that goes into effect upon release of the program version.

</snip>

Obviously releasing 2 EULA's with one saying freeware and the other saying
shareware, would be completely stupid but I'd have thought us mere authors
would have been allowed to release updated EULA's? (it seems silly to have
to re-package an application just because of a change in an EULA......
aslong as the change doesn't change the program's status from freeware to
something else)

--
Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)

 

[SINNER]

* Steven Burn Wrote in alt.comp.freeware, on 2004-02-05:

<snip>

Obviously releasing 2 EULA's with one saying freeware and the other saying
shareware, would be completely stupid but I'd have thought us mere authors
would have been allowed to release updated EULA's? (it seems silly to have
to re-package an application just because of a change in an EULA......
aslong as the change doesn't change the program's status from freeware to
something else)

I disagree unless you have some 'I Agree' checkbox on your site that has
the update EULA and is required for download then you must repackage the
EULA if you expect people to abide by it.

 

[Steven Burn]

I disagree unless you have some 'I Agree' checkbox on your site that has
the update EULA and is required for download then you must repackage the
EULA if you expect people to abide by it.

</snip>

Oh right...... it's actually the Distribution agreement I've updated, but
I'll just wait until I update the programs and leave them as they are for
now.

--
Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)

 

[Susan Bugher]

While strolling through alt.comp.freeware, Susan Bugher was overheard
plotting:


Susan, I have been sick and away from the PC for a few days, sorry for
the delay. I will have it out to you by end of week.

The CD hasn't arrived. I sent an email some days ago and haven't heard
back. The last post from SINNER to ACF is dated 02-05. I'm hoping
David's okay and just busy. . .

Susan

 

[Steven Burn]

The CD hasn't arrived. I sent an email some days ago and haven't heard
back. The last post from SINNER to ACF is dated 02-05. I'm hoping
David's okay and just busy. . .

</snip>

Hiya Susan.......... I was beginning to think we'd lost you \

--
Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)

 

[Podz]

The CD hasn't arrived. I sent an email some days ago and haven't heard
back. The last post from SINNER to ACF is dated 02-05. I'm hoping
David's okay and just busy. . .

Susan

This was posted to a.g.m by SINNER on 6th Feb and it involves one of his
hands:

"Well it turned out to be worse then expected. I went back to the Dr.
today who sent me to a specialist who said it needs to be opened and
cleaned TODAY. Basically he called me lucky and based on Xrays and
prelims there isnt much damage and I should have full mobility back in
about *gulp* six weeks. What a way to spend my Birthday

A week of vacation suffering only to be told I will be out of work for
at least another week. Will try to read but likely wont be able to post
much."

 

[Susan Bugher]

<snip>

Hiya Susan.......... I was beginning to think we'd lost you \

and just when you got your hopes up. . .

Susan

 

[Susan Bugher]

This was posted to a.g.m by SINNER on 6th Feb and it involves one of his
hands:

A week of vacation suffering only to be told I will be out of work for
at least another week. Will try to read but likely wont be able to post
much."

Thank you very much for that Podz. That doesn't sound like much fun at all.

David, if you're reading this, best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Susan

 

[Steven Burn]

and just when you got your hopes up. . .

</snip>

hehe, on the contrary, tis good to see your still with us ;o)

--
Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

Disclaimer:
I know I'm probably wrong, I just like taking part ;o)

 

[Achim Nolcken Lohse]

Proposed Pricelessware 2004 CD

The idea has been raised, SINNER has downloaded the programs. Now the
question is does ACF want to do it. I'm in favor. Here are my thoughts
and suggestions.

CONTENT

I think including a copy of the PL pages would be helpful to the
recipient of the CD, probably also an index of the included files and
versions. . .

I see some questionable areas with the programs. If the EULA prohibits
redistribution IMO the program should be omitted.

Sorry for the tardy response. Just resumed following ACF after a long
lapse, and had to sift through 15,000 headers, and am now working my
way through 1000+ messages. And despite some nastyness that seems to
have been imported from the Linux newsgroups, I still find this NG to
be the most helpful and friendly one I know of.

I'm in favour of the project, and agree with your suggestion and
caveat above.

I'm also prepared to do some burning for my broadband-deprived
countrymen. I'm Invermere, BC, in the Canadian Rockies.





Achim



axethetax

 

[Susan Bugher]

Sorry for the tardy response. Just resumed following ACF after a long
lapse, and had to sift through 15,000 headers, and am now working my
way through 1000+ messages. And despite some nastyness that seems to
have been imported from the Linux newsgroups, I still find this NG to
be the most helpful and friendly one I know of.

I'm in favour of the project, and agree with your suggestion and
caveat above.

I'm also prepared to do some burning for my broadband-deprived
countrymen. I'm Invermere, BC, in the Canadian Rockies.

Thank you Achim.

The project is still in the works but delayed a bit (SINNER has been
ill). FYI - I uploaded a temporary web page about it here:

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/PL2004ProgramIndexCD.php

Susan

 

[Achim Nolcken Lohse]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:11:53 -0500, Susan Bugher

....

The project is still in the works but delayed a bit (SINNER has been
ill). FYI - I uploaded a temporary web page about it here:

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/PL2004ProgramIndexCD.php

Susan

Thanks Susan, will be watching for further instructions....


Achim



axethetax

 

[Susan Bugher]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:11:53 -0500, Susan Bugher

...


Thanks Susan, will be watching for further instructions....

Oooooops, had my eyes crossed. This is the URL I meant to send:

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/proposal-CD.htm

It has info - the proposed distribution procedure . . .

Susan

 

[Achim Nolcken Lohse]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:24:32 -0500, Susan Bugher

....

Oooooops, had my eyes crossed. This is the URL I meant to send:

http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/proposal-CD.htm

It has info - the proposed distribution procedure . . .

OK, I've got it now.

One suggestion (probably made already) - I think it would be desirable
to have a method of checking the disk's integrity, perhaps by having a
md5sum for each program and a batch file and md5sum.exe on the disk to
check all of them at once (like the Knoppix LiveCD's testCD function).




Achim



axethetax

 

[Susan Bugher]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 00:24:32 -0500, Susan Bugher

...


OK, I've got it now.

One suggestion (probably made already) -
Yup

I think it would be desirable
to have a method of checking the disk's integrity, perhaps by having a
md5sum for each program and a batch file and md5sum.exe on the disk to
check all of them at once (like the Knoppix LiveCD's testCD function).

Yup

Susan

 

[SINNER]

While strolling through alt.comp.freeware, Sietse Fliege was
overheard plotting:

Yes, you can download and use it for free. I know that.


Your arrogance is that you seem to know better than Karen what's
good for her and that you think you have the right to comment or
even to criticize.

Bullshit, I can comment or critisize whomever and whatever I please,
its an open forum.

It is none of your bussiness why she does not allow
redistribution. Be grateful if you can use some of her tools. She
owes you nothing.

As I dont owe her a thing and quite frankly she can request whatever
she likes in reality she has very limited control over what really
happens.

Yes, I could and maybe should have been more polite.
But it sets me off seeing a great freeware author being
critisized.

Lifes a bitch and this is usenet, it sets me off you telling me what I
can and cant do, so piss off...

I wasnt nearly as rude about her response as you were to me, perhaps
you should take some of your own advice.

 

[Ben Cooper]

While strolling through alt.comp.freeware, Sietse Fliege was
overheard plotting: [snip]

Yes, I could and maybe should have been more polite.
But it sets me off seeing a great freeware author being
critisized.

Lifes a bitch and this is usenet, it sets me off you telling me what I
can and cant do, so piss off...

I wasnt nearly as rude about her response as you were to me, perhaps
you should take some of your own advice.

Ouch! That's harsh.

So, have you sent the collected programs for the CD to
Susan, yet?

 

[SINNER]

* Ben Cooper Wrote in alt.comp.freeware, on 2004-02-20:

While strolling through alt.comp.freeware, Sietse Fliege was
overheard plotting: [snip]

Yes, I could and maybe should have been more polite.
But it sets me off seeing a great freeware author being
critisized.

Lifes a bitch and this is usenet, it sets me off you telling me what I
can and cant do, so piss off...
I wasnt nearly as rude about her response as you were to me, perhaps
you should take some of your own advice.

Ouch! That's harsh.

So, have you sent the collected programs for the CD to
Susan, yet?

Going out today....