I'm givng up on Vista for now.
I spent 400 dollar on this Pile of Beta crap and after 30 days I'm
giving up on it. I expect a 400.00 piece of software to at least be
useable but I'm sick of all the "not responding" programs and unkown
failures.
Alias said:Don't know. I use 6.06.
Alias
Saucy said:no games, no printer drivers, thousands of incomplete alpha quality
email clients, thousands of incomplete alpha quality grep scripts,
dissimilar config files all over the place .. yeah .. it's a nightmare
whoops dream OS ..
Alias said:Who cares?
Conor said:ROFL...you're about to get asswhipped.
..after installing all basic KDE (around 500MB as I recall) which
bloats the OS thus making it as bad as your despised Windows for bloat.
..after installing the Gnome libraries which bloats the OS thus making
it as bad as your despised Windows for bloat.
Conor said:Because you installed the vendor supplied drivers. Windows Vista comes
with the vendor supplied drivers.
I NOTED THAT YOU DIDN'T ARGUE ABOUT WIFI.
Because you downloaded and installed them. BTWE, libdvdcss is illegal
to use.
No vendor provided 3d drivers have been supplied in Ubuntu as it would
taint the "free software" mantra.
Where is the WMA support? Where is the Realplayer support? Where is the
Quicktime support? Why do I have to install an illegal library to watch
a CSS encoded commercial DVD?
Alias said:False.
Robert said:1. I couldn't get the dial-up modem working. It is an Intel HDA modem
that uses a conexant chipset. Linuxant drivers choked when installing
due to snd-hda-intel already running and could not be unloaded. I had
alot of difficulty and never did succeed.
2. The wireless adapter could not be setup. The version of ndiswrapper
that is provided is old and the newer one could not be compiled. If I
could of compiled it then it is likely that the wireless would of worked
but...
Other than that everything worked. It got the correct resolution and
detected about 98% of my hardware correctly. Even got my card reader.
bp said:I'm givng up on Vista for now.
I spent 400 dollar on this Pile of Beta crap and after 30 days I'm
giving up on it. I expect a 400.00 piece of software to at least be
useable but I'm sick of all the "not responding" programs and unkown
failures.
I think it has promise but it isn't ready for my money.
I'm off to the UPS office and back to XP.
Robert Pendell said:And even then you can install Wine or Cedega and they will usually be
able to run windows based games.
I can't comment on BF 2 specifically.
However, a lot of the Windows users Loonix Zealotrs want to convert do.Oh and I could care less about game support. I use linux as an
experiment and a learning experience so...
Why? I already know what it is...P.S. - to extend on the learning bit... I am installing gentoo next.
Research it and you will understand.
More lies and bullshit. The 18GB requirement is to allow room to expandStephan said:Bring it...I could use the exercise. =)
Well you recall incorrectly. Try 70MB, I just added up all my gnome related
packages and barely scratched that much.
I think I will take 70 megs over Vista's 18 gigs.
Really? How does it do that considering nVidia didn't release *BETA* drivers
until AFTER Vista was released?
The same as they always have.But since that wasn't available when Vista was released, please do tell me,
how exactly does Vista include them? Is it psychic or something?
No, really?Oh and what you are saying is bullshit. Sure, windows comes with vendor
supplied drivers (as does kubuntu). But just like kubuntu, it comes with
whatever was available at the time it was released!
However Vista does. And seeing as you're in a Vista newsgroup talkingMeaning WinXP does *NOT* support my 7800 GT out of the box without me having
to download the vendor drivers from nVidia. Nor would I expect it to.
You don't with Vista...Same deal with Kubuntu, it was released prior to my graphics cards existance
so it doesn't have that driver bundled with it. So I had to download the
driver and install it. Big friggin deal. Have to do that with XP too.
I'm currently running 100.65...The latest version of it that is still in Beta however does work with my
card out of the box with nVidia drivers as it is a newer release!
Yeah..you've never ever used Vista and are a troll.On one of my other systems with a 6600, Kubuntu supports it 100% without me
having to install any updated drivers. Older card, existed prior to version
6.10 release date and it is supported.
See a pattern emerging here?
However you surely must know about the capabilities of your OS,I don't use laptops therefore I don't need or use Wifi. Since I don't use
it, I can't comment (or argue) about it.
Illegal in the EU as well.Illegal to use **** in the US ****.
I am not in the US.
But Loonix Zealots keep telling me Linux is free.There is more than one country in this world and US laws don't apply in
them.
And if I was in the US and had a problem with it being illegal, I could
always buy a DVD Player software for linux (commercial apps do exist) that
is perfectly legal. Same way I bought PowerDVD for Windows since I don't
use the bundled crap that comes with DVD players.
Saucy said:Yeah Linux is real safe:
http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/126748/187/
http://www.net-security.org/advisory.php?id=7205
http://secwatch.org/advisories/1017065/
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6132_102-0.html?forumID=32&threadID=234550&messageID=2408804
http://www.linuxlinks.com/portal/news/index.php?topic=5
not.
Robert said:Well that is your choice and I won't try to deter you. This is an
unactivated key right? Because otherwise you wouldn't normally get a
refund. Heck I'm surprised that they would give you a refund on an open
package regardless of activation status. Anyways I work in a call
center doing tech support and when I get vista calls it goes pretty
well. The last thing I tell them is this...
"Vista is in the same boat as XP was when it was first released. There
are going to be issues. There will be application crashes. There will
be compatibility issues both in software and hardware. It is to be
expected and will happen. We appreciate your patience as you allow us
to adjust to the new operating system and procure new procedures in
troubleshooting your OS and your issues."
Oh and to everyone else... What about the people that had no choice and
got Vista pre-installed on their computer?
This might be of interest as to the wifi support and the codecs:Conor said:Hardly any Wifi support
No vendor 3d drivers
No multimedia codecs.
Excellent community support though.
Windows UAC anyone?Yep, it is. Course, if you knew anything about Linux (you don't), you would
know these urls talk about minor threats that are no threat at all. A user
would have to give permission for each and every one of these attacks by
typing out their password.
Windows, OTOH, needs no password to get a drive by meanie or a root kit.
Unless it gets rooted.In the unlikely event that one does give permission for a nasty to install,
there is an AV program that comes with Ubuntu to get rid of it, or at
worst, one can create a new account and nuke the infected account or just
ignore it. Window can't even dream of doing that.
Guess why? Because Linux is such an inferior OS that it's not worth theHow many computer bots do you think the spammers and scammers have in their
stable? Zero. How many Windows boxes? Millions.
Conor said:Windows UAC anyone?
Unless it gets rooted.
Huh?
Guess why? Because Linux is such an inferior OS that it's not worth the
effort.
Looking at the linux vs windows vulnerability argument from perhaps aConor said:Windows UAC anyone?
Unless it gets rooted.
Guess why? Because Linux is such an inferior OS that it's not worth the
effort.
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