HATE new Windows Mail

[Guest]

I am the only one who uses my computer, I use "identities" to set up
different folders so I don't have to sort through all 350 of my contacts. I
have one for "friend", "family", "work" and "businesses." For instance, I
have my electric company's address and phone number under "busiess." If I
want to call them, I pull it right up. But without identities, it shows up
(along with my other 349 contacts) when I hit "TO:" to send an email. I am a
super organized person and this is driving me nuts. It's like taking my
whole cabinet and dump out all my labelled folders and have me find a piece
of paper! It's insane - what was Microsoft thinking??????????????

 

[Guest]

It is not an option with Vista. My computer came pre-loaded with Vista, as
do all new computers purchased at this point (I think).

 

[dev]

/TinaMarie/ said:

I am the only one who uses my computer, I use "identities" to set up
different folders so I don't have to sort through all 350 of my
contacts. I have one for "friend", "family", "work" and
"businesses." For instance, I have my electric company's address and
phone number under "business." If I want to call them, I pull it
right up. But without identities, it shows up (along with my other
349 contacts) when I hit "TO:" to send an email.

In the CONTACTS folder, create subfolders, as you did for O.E.
"identities."

When you want to send mail to your friends, as an example, open
the CONTACTS folder. (Click the icon on the toolbar.)

Double-click the FRIEND folder, and press <cntl-A> to select ALL items.
Or click on individual addresses while holding down the <shift> key.

Right-click on any selected (highlighted) address, then click
ACTION|SEND E-MAIL.
All addresses in "friend" will populate the TO field in a new mail message.

 

[Guest]

I tried that already - didn't work. After making the folder in "contact," I
go to "Create Mail" and hit "To:" The folder does NOT show up. Also, when I
forward an existing email, the folder does not show up. The only time it
shows up is when I click on "contacts."

 

[Richard Urban]

Why not just create a new folder within the contact area and then move the
appropriate contacts to their respective folders? I have done so.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[dev]

/TinaMarie/ said:

You will have to create new mail using the sequence listed below. As
for REPLY or FORWARD, it appears that you are out of luck. As you note,
clicking on TO generates the entire Contacts list - not selective
folders (identities).

Consider another mail client, such as SeaMonkey mail, which is a suite -
browser, mail, HTML composer. Or the individual FireFox/Thunderbird
combo that are very similar, but not precisely the same in feature set.

In SeaMonkey, one has a choice of address books and can select
individual or all as desired.

http://mozilla.org.

 

[DGuess]

How do Identities help? Identities separated the users' accounts.

 

[DGuess]

Are you referring to e-mail Groups because Identities would be totally
separated and deal with the users being separated (e-mail and address book).

Groups are still available in Contacts. Address Book was just one of the
items never really updated to allow exporting and importing of folders and
groups.

 

[Guest]

Identities put my life in order. It's like separate folders and I can find
all my friends in one, without having to scroll through the other 300+
contacts. It's easy to make mistakes and send to the wrong person by having
all 300 instead of sorted by identities. I do not have anyone else using my
computer, so it's not a user problem.

 

[Guest]

If you read my other post, you will see that the folders DO NOT show up when
you hit "to" or "forward."

 

[dev]

/dev/ said:

You will have to create new mail using the sequence listed below. As
for REPLY or FORWARD, it appears that you are out of luck. As you note,
clicking on TO generates the entire Contacts list - not selective
folders (identities).

Consider another mail client, such as SeaMonkey mail, which is a suite -
browser, mail, HTML composer. Or the individual FireFox/Thunderbird
combo that are very similar, but not precisely the same in feature set.

In SeaMonkey, one has a choice of address books and can select
individual or all as desired.

http://mozilla.org.

I'll add one more suggestion for Windows Mail. Click START button|HELP
& SUPPORT and in the search box type "contact group."

These groups are mailing lists - aliases to names in the contacts
folder. To send to the entire group, click on TO in the message and
double-click on the group name. Unfortunately, I spot no way to send to
selected members of these "groups", except as noted earlier for a new
message.

 

[Guest]

I don't know what you meant by "e-mail groups." I was referring to
Identities. Several people here "get" my fustration because they also
organize their email contacts. The people who had not used Identities in OE,
they wouldn't "get" it.

 

[Richard Urban]

I guess it depends upon how you create the e-mail. I always open the address
book/contacts list and choose the name/names first. Then I choose Action |
Send E-mail.

Works for me but you want/need something different.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[DGuess]

Ok, let's get some more clarification.

On XP, you switched between OE Identities to get to other mail accounts?
That opened OE in that Identity account. Totally separated e-mail and
address book.

That is an Identity. Each Identitiy has it's own address book (though they
are stored in one WAB file, they are separated). That as much as Identities
have to do with Address Book.

A group is where you put this or that address in with other addresses in
Address Book. That way you coaul call up the group by name and and instead
of selecting multiple addresses, you select one and all the addresses in
that group are selected.

That's why I'm trying to figure out how you used Identites for Address Book
when you clicked on the TO: line because each Identity's Address Book won't
show up or is usable at that point. Only the Address Book for that
particular Identity is available. You said you set up Identities, so you
went from the "freinds" Identities to the "family" identity to the "work" or
"business" Identity by using from OE's File menu, Identities | Switch
Identities?

See, I think you may be using the wrong terms. I know I get Identities,
I've gotten it since their inception. I've forgotten more about Outlook
Express than some people would ever learn and I think there are enough
people around that can back that statement up.

 

[DGuess]

They were very valuable in quick testing for possible corruption of settings
or dbx files. You could set up a new Identity, switch to it, and if it
worked, chances were something was wrong in the old Identity.

It was very handy.

 

[DGuess]

I think she's confused on the terms, Identities and using it for the term
Groups.

Then I'm wondering if she's going thru the create group process or just
creating a new folder in Contacts which will not show up for availablity.
Only the Groups and single addresses will show.

 

[Guest]

I did not mean to imply your lack of knowledge; my apologies if it came
across that way. I am very fustrated with Vista, Windows mail - I've lost a
week of my life (so far) and I still do not have my softwares working in
Vista. I lost 6 hours alone in getting my printer to config w/Vista (sorry,
I'm off topic here). I am going to accept the fact that Window Mail (at this
point) cannot do what my old OE does and there's no way around it. I will
scrap the whole Windows Mail, and start fresh and use Outlook (which I don't
like). Thanks everyone for the help and I truly, truly was not out to upset
anyone.

 

[DGuess]

I did not mean to imply your lack of knowledge; my apologies if it came
across that way. I am very fustrated with Vista, Windows mail - I've lost
a
week of my life (so far) and I still do not have my softwares working in
Vista. I lost 6 hours alone in getting my printer to config w/Vista
(sorry,
I'm off topic here). I am going to accept the fact that Window Mail (at
this
point) cannot do what my old OE does and there's no way around it. I will
scrap the whole Windows Mail, and start fresh and use Outlook (which I
don't
like). Thanks everyone for the help and I truly, truly was not out to
upset
anyone.

Can't insult me, something I think is a vain attempt by the person doing
the insulting to making themeselves feel better about how low of a life
they're actually living. And I didn't take your comments as an insult

I think you may have been confusing Identities from Outlook Express with
Address Book's Groups and by referring to them as Identities, you got
solutions for an Identity and not a Address Book Group because you were
saying you were able to select them from theTo line. To be able to do that,
you need to be logged into that Identity and from that Identity, only those
contacts would be visible. You can't get to the work addresses while logged
into the family Identity. That's why I was wondering if maybe you had the
terms confused which happens quite frequently because I hear it mangled so
bad on a daily basis it's a wonder I even want to deal with computers and I
think the whole thread is now confused on what is going on, was going on and
the possible solution that may or may not exist.

Outlook may not do what you're looking for either.

If you would like to continue this by e-mail, remove the .oops from my
e-mail address and replace it with .com. Maybe we can find a solution to
what's you're looking for.

 

[-Draino-]

I absolutely agree!!!

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I am the only one who uses my computer, I use "identities" to set up
different folders so I don't have to sort through all 350 of my contacts.
I
have one for "friend", "family", "work" and "businesses." For instance, I
have my electric company's address and phone number under "busiess." If I
want to call them, I pull it right up. But without identities, it shows
up
(along with my other 349 contacts) when I hit "TO:" to send an email. I
am a
super organized person and this is driving me nuts. It's like taking my
whole cabinet and dump out all my labelled folders and have me find a
piece
of paper! It's insane - what was Microsoft thinking??????????????

 

[Gary VanderMolen]

It's really not as bad as you make it sound.
When you click 'To:' and type the first letter of the name,
the focus jumps to the first name starting with that letter,
and by the time you type the second letter, it has
probably found the name you want.

Gary VanderMolen