Yikes - my first attempt at refilling

[Caitlin]

I think I'm going to stick to pre-filled cartridges from now on. I'm covered
in blue and yellow ink! *lol* (I'm sure if you get the hang of it it's fine,
but it was all a bit too messy for me...) Lucky my desk doesn't seem to
stain easily - pity I can't say the same about my fingers!

 

[Paul Heslop]

I think I'm going to stick to pre-filled cartridges from now on. I'm covered
in blue and yellow ink! *lol* (I'm sure if you get the hang of it it's fine,
but it was all a bit too messy for me...) Lucky my desk doesn't seem to
stain easily - pity I can't say the same about my fingers!

Heh heh. I only tried it once. Not as bad as the time I tried to dye a
brightly coloured ski jacket black while wearing thin rubber gloves,
then plunging my hands right in and the blackened water running into
them. I had varying coloured hands for weeks! :O)

 

[Martin]

I think I'm going to stick to pre-filled cartridges from now on. I'm covered
in blue and yellow ink! *lol* (I'm sure if you get the hang of it it's fine,
but it was all a bit too messy for me...) Lucky my desk doesn't seem to
stain easily - pity I can't say the same about my fingers!

Welcome to my world There's rarely a day goes by when I don't have
technicolor hands

For what it's worth though it's very much worth the learning curve if
you stick with it..

And if you're using them with an epson I can recommend the spongeless
carts from MIS (and some other places are getting them in to) as they're
pretty much made for refilling easily.

Anyways, enjoy the "what have you done?!" looks for a few days

 

[zakezuke]

I think I'm going to stick to pre-filled cartridges from now on. I'm covered
in blue and yellow ink! *lol* (I'm sure if you get the hang of it it's fine,
but it was all a bit too messy for me...) Lucky my desk doesn't seem to
stain easily - pity I can't say the same about my fingers!

Yep, there is a learning curve. My first attempt was on vacuum filled
cartridges, without instructions. I had a fountain. Lots of fun.

I would reccomend anyone thinking about refilling to get refillable
cartridges first, the foam type, with good instructions, written in
their native language, or at least close to it.

 

[measekite]

this is another example of what i am trying to say but the
fundamentalists will try to find a way to cover this up or ignore it.
if there are not many rebuttals to this than it is very obvious that the
fundamentalsts churchies are ignoring the truth and will continue to
profess that fundamentalism

I think I'm going to stick to pre-filled cartridges from now on. I'm covered
in blue and yellow ink!

:-D :-D :-D

i told you oneof the drawbaks is it is very messy and the no name
generic prefilled carts will ruin your printer over a short time. it
seems that the prefilled is even lower in quality than the bottles.

*lol* (I'm sure if you get the hang of it it's fine,
but it was all

a bit too messy

thats what i say

for me...) Lucky my desk doesn't seem to
stain easily - pity I can't say the same about my fingers!

the ink is so poor it should wash off easy. it not go get some gojo
hand cleaner at a paint store and that should help a lot.

 

[measekite]

Welcome to my world There's rarely a day goes by when I don't have
technicolor hands

another one but he will not admit it is a mess

For what it's worth though it's very much worth the learning curve if
you stick with it..

And if you're using them with an epson I can recommend the spongeless
carts from MIS (and some other places are getting them in to) as
they're pretty much made for refilling easily.

call up this company and ask them what brand they sell ie who is the
mfg/formuolator. i am certain they will not tell you.

 

[milou]

I think I'm going to stick to pre-filled cartridges from now on. I'm covered
in blue and yellow ink! *lol* (I'm sure if you get the hang of it it's fine,
but it was all a bit too messy for me...) Lucky my desk doesn't seem to
stain easily - pity I can't say the same about my fingers!

Severe lack of RTFM ...

 

[Taliesyn]

I think I'm going to stick to pre-filled cartridges from now on. I'm covered
in blue and yellow ink! *lol* (I'm sure if you get the hang of it it's fine,
but it was all a bit too messy for me...) Lucky my desk doesn't seem to
stain easily - pity I can't say the same about my fingers!

Were you taping America's Funniest Videos?

Myself, I'm not that funny. I calmly and peacefully refill at my
computer desk in front of this monitor - no rubber gloves, no towels, no
newspapers, no plastic tray, no chemical suit, no umbrella, and no
Hoover Dam to back me up. Just a tissue paper to wipe the needle and
tops of cartridges before I seal them with tape and put them in storage
for several months. Clean and neat as can be. Wouldn't dream of buying a
set of OEM cartridges at close to $100 Canadian for that slight chance
of getting a spot of cyan, magenta or yellow on my hands. Besides,
everyone says my skin could use a little color . . . ;-)

-Taliesyn (And you can color my world with sunshine every day . . . )

 

[LBW]

Were you taping America's Funniest Videos?

Myself, I'm not that funny. I calmly and peacefully refill at my
computer desk in front of this monitor - no rubber gloves, no towels,
no newspapers, no plastic tray, no chemical suit, no umbrella, and no
Hoover Dam to back me up. Just a tissue paper to wipe the needle and
tops of cartridges before I seal them with tape and put them in
storage for several months. Clean and neat as can be. Wouldn't dream
of buying a set of OEM cartridges at close to $100 Canadian for that
slight chance of getting a spot of cyan, magenta or yellow on my
hands. Besides, everyone says my skin could use a little color . . .
;-)

Good one. Like anything, if you haven't done it before or often enough,
it seems quite the challenge. Don't ask my 84-year-old dad to refill.
The man isn't even capable of installing a cartridge correctly. He can't
figure out top from bottom and calls it "rocket science". Then I have
friends who recently painted their walls...and their sofa, and their
tables. Refilling cartridges is no different. Some people just find
they're all thumbs when it comes to manipulating objects and reading
relatively simple instructions. I think refilling is best left to people
who are used to doing precision work and have lots of patience. Their
reward is huge in savings over OEM costs. LBW

 

[Jacques E. Bouchard]

Good one. Like anything, if you haven't done it before or often
enough, it seems quite the challenge. Don't ask my 84-year-old dad to
refill. The man isn't even capable of installing a cartridge
correctly. He can't figure out top from bottom and calls it "rocket
science". Then I have friends who recently painted their walls...and
their sofa, and their tables. Refilling cartridges is no different.
Some people just find they're all thumbs when it comes to manipulating
objects and reading relatively simple instructions. I think refilling
is best left to people who are used to doing precision work and have
lots of patience. Their reward is huge in savings over OEM costs. LBW

Here's a tip that really simplifies the process: store your ink in
squeezable plastic bottles (I use 355ml soda pop bottles because I buy
my ink in bulk). Make a hole in the caps and glue the refilling needles
with a hot glue gun on top, putting plenty of glue around the needle
base to make a seal. Put bits of pencil erasers on the needle tips to
keep them from drying out and when you need to refill your cartridges
it's only a matter of inserting the needle and squeezing the bottle.

It keeps the mess to a minimum.


jaybee

 

[measekite]

Were you taping America's Funniest Videos?

Myself, I'm not that funny. I calmly and peacefully refill at my
computer desk in front of this monitor - no rubber gloves, no towels, no
newspapers, no plastic tray, no chemical suit, no umbrella, and no

i believe that catlin is telling the truth

 

[Burt]

Here's a tip that really simplifies the process: store your ink in
squeezable plastic bottles (I use 355ml soda pop bottles because I buy
my ink in bulk). Make a hole in the caps and glue the refilling needles
with a hot glue gun on top, putting plenty of glue around the needle
base to make a seal. Put bits of pencil erasers on the needle tips to
keep them from drying out and when you need to refill your cartridges
it's only a matter of inserting the needle and squeezing the bottle.

It keeps the mess to a minimum.


jaybee

Save yourself the effort and check out these squeeze bottles with needles -
already set up for effortless, neat refilling. You can request plastic caps
for the needles as well. No syringes to deal with or clean.
http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html

 

[Burt]

Good one. Like anything, if you haven't done it before or often enough,
it seems quite the challenge. Don't ask my 84-year-old dad to refill.
The man isn't even capable of installing a cartridge correctly. He can't
figure out top from bottom and calls it "rocket science". Then I have
friends who recently painted their walls...and their sofa, and their
tables. Refilling cartridges is no different. Some people just find
they're all thumbs when it comes to manipulating objects and reading
relatively simple instructions. I think refilling is best left to people
who are used to doing precision work and have lots of patience. Their
reward is huge in savings over OEM costs. LBW

Refilling carts is like many other thinks in this contemporary life. Some
people change the oil in their cars and others wouldn't think of doing it,
either for lack of skill, knowledge, or concern about the potential mess.
Grocery shopping involves decisions about buying all fresh ingredients which
involve some effort and mess in the kitchen, or buying convenience foods
that simplify cooking but cost more, or buying takeout foods fully
prepared - much less messy, faster, and requiring no time or skill for
preparation. You are right in that there is a definite "klutz" factor -
some people have great dexterity and enjoy getting their hands into such
projects and some have difficulty tying their shoes.

The latest Consumers Reports had a fairly extensive article on aftermarket
inks. It is sad that they essentially write off bulk ink refilling as messy
and something that people wouldn't want to do. The only refill inks they
checked out were kits sold in retail stores. Not nearly the savings or
quality that one would experience with inks such as MIS, Hobbicolors,
Formulabs, or other decent quality inks available on the internet. Would
they summarily dismiss changing your own oil or cooking your own meals from
scratch because they are "messy"? For those who would want to be "hands on"
there should be adequate evaluation.

 

[Jacques E. Bouchard]

Save yourself the effort and check out these squeeze bottles with
needles - already set up for effortless, neat refilling. You can
request plastic caps for the needles as well. No syringes to deal
with or clean. http://heinc.com/kahnetics/squeezebottles.html

Sure, but I don't need 10 of them, and the seal on a Coke bottle is
plastic, not cardboard as is often the case on those bottles.

Plus, took me 15 min. and cost me $0 to make them (shipping included).


jaybee

 

[Jacques E. Bouchard]

The latest Consumers Reports had a fairly extensive article on
aftermarket inks. It is sad that they essentially write off bulk ink
refilling as messy and something that people wouldn't want to do. The
only refill inks they checked out were kits sold in retail stores.
Not nearly the savings or quality that one would experience with inks
such as MIS, Hobbicolors, Formulabs, or other decent quality inks
available on the internet. Would they summarily dismiss changing your
own oil or cooking your own meals from scratch because they are
"messy"? For those who would want to be "hands on" there should be
adequate evaluation.

There was a similar report from a consumer show a couple years ago in
Canada that refilled a cartridge, didn't run a head cleaning cycle or
printing a test pattern to flush out the heads (as is clearly indicated in
the instructions), then complained about the banding on the printout.


jaybee

 

[Burt]

Sure, but I don't need 10 of them, and the seal on a Coke bottle is
plastic, not cardboard as is often the case on those bottles.

Plus, took me 15 min. and cost me $0 to make them (shipping included).


jaybee

JB - No cardboard seal - either a rubber gasket or just the contact against
the flexible bottle material. Regardless, the seal is perfect with no
leaks. They are designed to use with chemical materials and would be
useless if they were to leak. The caps are manufactured to accept luerlock
needles, just the same as medical syringes. For a buck apiece they are the
best system I've used for refilling so far. Cheap enough that I used the
six I need for my printer and gave the remaining four to a friend who was
interested in starting to refill.

 

[measekite]

they do not tell you what they are selling you. they are relabelers so
you never know what they are selling from month to month.
this is a mfg/formulator but only sell in gallons and do not sell
prefilled carts under their own name and label. and even they had
problems with their magenta last year.

 

[Ian]

Measekite, you need a life...BAD. I viewed your profile...5476 messages

in 1 year...OH MY GOD. Talk about TYPE-ARRHEA. More than 15 messages a
day...everyday...Just on Google!!! WOW!!!! DUDE YOU NEED A
LIFE...BBBBBBAAAAADDDDDD.

 

[Gary Tait]

this is another example of what i am trying to say but the
fundamentalists will try to find a way to cover this up or ignore it.
if there are not many rebuttals to this than it is very obvious that the
fundamentalsts churchies are ignoring the truth and will continue to
profess that fundamentalism

They aren't ingoring your version of what you call the trute, they are
ignoring you.

 

[TJ]

Refilling carts is like many other thinks in this contemporary life. Some
people change the oil in their cars and others wouldn't think of doing it,
either for lack of skill, knowledge, or concern about the potential mess.
Grocery shopping involves decisions about buying all fresh ingredients which
involve some effort and mess in the kitchen, or buying convenience foods
that simplify cooking but cost more, or buying takeout foods fully
prepared - much less messy, faster, and requiring no time or skill for
preparation. You are right in that there is a definite "klutz" factor -
some people have great dexterity and enjoy getting their hands into such
projects and some have difficulty tying their shoes.

The latest Consumers Reports had a fairly extensive article on aftermarket
inks. It is sad that they essentially write off bulk ink refilling as messy
and something that people wouldn't want to do. The only refill inks they
checked out were kits sold in retail stores. Not nearly the savings or
quality that one would experience with inks such as MIS, Hobbicolors,
Formulabs, or other decent quality inks available on the internet. Would
they summarily dismiss changing your own oil or cooking your own meals from
scratch because they are "messy"? For those who would want to be "hands on"
there should be adequate evaluation.

Changing oil? Certainly - not only because of the potential mess, but
also for the problem of disposing of the old oil properly. As for
choosing to evaluate only retail store kits, I can understand it even if
I disagree with it. That is the type of kit that a new refiller is most
likely to try first - unless somebody were to steer him in a better
direction. They probably would have better served the consumer if they
had mentioned the better quality (but less ubiquitous)kits, but that's
not the way they think.

TJ