canon ip4200 cartridge refills

[rosenmarsh]

I know this has been discussed before but I have read various threads
and am still somewhat confused
I recently the large black cartridge PGI-5BK with a non OEM model which
I had to reset the chip with. It has been working fine but the printer
can no longer detect the ink level of that cartridge. So I assume I
will only know it has run out when the cartridge is used up. Is this
dangerous for the printer? I used non -epson cartridges with my r200
but the chip could be reset to recognise ink levels.
I am now getting a message that magenta is running low and wasn't sure
what cartridge to purchase. I have had messy bad experiences with
refilling cartridges in the past so just wanted to know if there is a
reputable non-oem cartridge people would recommend (preferably
rechipable) or is it better to stick with Canon's own expensive ones??

Many thanks for your help

 

[Martin Trautmann]

I recently the large black cartridge PGI-5BK with a non OEM model which
I had to reset the chip with.

No, you did not 'reset' the chip. I guess you took it from the original
cartridge and transfered it to the OEM part.

Next, you where asked whether to continue printing without checking for
'empty'. This is no reset, but a change of software options.

It has been working fine but the printer can no longer detect the ink
level of that cartridge. So I assume I will only know it has run out
when the cartridge is used up.

The current setup is that you disabled the empty detection completely.
That's what Canon wants on purpose in order to discourage people.

You now have to check yourself, either on the print or before printing
that you won't run dry.

Is this dangerous for the printer?

Yes, printing with empty nozzles may overheat them. It won't happen
immediately, but you should not try to print lots of pages this way.
Thus you should not start to print 100 photos and then leave home...

I have had messy bad experiences with
refilling cartridges in the past so just wanted to know if there is a
reputable non-oem cartridge people would recommend (preferably
rechipable) or is it better to stick with Canon's own expensive
ones??

What's your definintion of OEM?

There's Canon (do they make the ink on their own? I doubt so, also it's
done especially for them and for their specifications and quality
limits).

There's manufacturers with better reputation, with continous quality,
with matching physical, chemical and color matching (some are even
better),

there's labels with good reputation, although they just resell ink made
by others

and there's poor labels which just mix and sell whatever they got.

Personally, I feel that those OEM cartridges are ok which sell both ink
in high quantities and cartridges. There are some who sell cartridges
only, at goog quality. But I'd trust more a good ink manufacturer than
any other cartridge label where I don't know what is inside.
Apart from that: What are your local prices for PGI5Bk (Canon vs.
others) - and what's the matching price for BCI-3eBk?

Refilling is not that difficult, once you learned how to do it right.

- Martin

 

[measekite]

No, you did not 'reset' the chip. I guess you took it from the original
cartridge and transfered it to the OEM part.

Next, you where asked whether to continue printing without checking for
'empty'. This is no reset, but a change of software options.



The current setup is that you disabled the empty detection completely.
That's what Canon wants on purpose in order to discourage people.

You now have to check yourself, either on the print or before printing
that you won't run dry.



Yes, printing with empty nozzles may overheat them. It won't happen
immediately, but you should not try to print lots of pages this way.
Thus you should not start to print 100 photos and then leave home...



What's your definintion of OEM?

There's Canon (do they make the ink on their own? I doubt so, also it's
done especially for them and for their specifications and quality
limits).

This is totally FALSE. Canon designed the printer and formulated the
ink. It really does not matter who mixes the Canon formula under
Canon's watch and fills them into Canon designed cartridges and then
packages them under the Canon name.

There's manufacturers with better reputation, with continous quality,
with matching physical, chemical and color matching (some are even
better),

FALSE
there's labels with good reputation, although they just resell ink made
by others

FALSE - The relabelers will not even tell you what they are selling or
who the formulator is

and there's poor labels which just mix and sell whatever they got.

MOST are this way

Personally, I feel that those OEM cartridges are ok which sell both ink
in high quantities and cartridges. There are some who sell cartridges
only, at goog quality. But I'd trust more a good ink manufacturer than
any other cartridge label where I don't know what is inside.
Apart from that: What are your local prices for PGI5Bk (Canon vs.
others) - and what's the matching price for BCI-3eBk?

Refilling is not that difficult, once you learned how to do it right.

It is a mess pain and is not easy.

 

[Burt]

I know this has been discussed before but I have read various threads
and am still somewhat confused
I recently the large black cartridge PGI-5BK with a non OEM model which
I had to reset the chip with. It has been working fine but the printer
can no longer detect the ink level of that cartridge. So I assume I
will only know it has run out when the cartridge is used up. Is this
dangerous for the printer? I used non -epson cartridges with my r200
but the chip could be reset to recognise ink levels.
I am now getting a message that magenta is running low and wasn't sure
what cartridge to purchase. I have had messy bad experiences with
refilling cartridges in the past so just wanted to know if there is a
reputable non-oem cartridge people would recommend (preferably
rechipable) or is it better to stick with Canon's own expensive ones??

Many thanks for your help

Refilling Canon cartridges is much easier and less messy than the Epsons
that require vacuuming out the foam and using a bottom filling attachment
(my experience with an Epson stylus color 960). I have three Canon printers
that I refill at present with no problems at all. I would suggest that you
go onto the Nifty-Stuff Forum site and read threads on sealing the fill hole
and other info on the ip4200, 4300, and 5200. You can use the original OEM
cart to refill several times. When they no longer work well you can use a
simple device you make yourself (info on nifty forum) to purge the carts and
make them as good as new. You can look for tips and tricks on that site
that make refilling easy and minimally messy, if at all.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/