XP System Maintenance Utilities...?

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Guest

Anyone have suggestions for the best Windows XP system maintenance utilities?
As in, is there any one set of utility software that is the most effective at
keeping XP running in good shape?

Examples are Symantec's Norton Systemworks (I heard mixed reviews about it),
Fixit Utilities, Tuneup Utilities, etc.

Any recommendations/experiences would be appreciated!
 
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Guest

Grant said:
Anyone have suggestions for the best Windows XP system maintenance utilities?
As in, is there any one set of utility software that is the most effective at
keeping XP running in good shape?
Examples are Symantec's Norton Systemworks (I heard mixed reviews about it),
Fixit Utilities, Tuneup Utilities, etc.
Any recommendations/experiences would be appreciated!

First my answer, and then some questions you should think about. Also,
these same comments apply to Internet security suites, although you are
asking about system utility suites.

First my answer: avoid them like the plague. Use the tools already built-in
to Windows XP. Regularly check your disk for errors using chkdsk (I do it
weekly), regularly run the disk cleanup program (I set it to run
automatically overnite), regularly defrag your drives using Disk
Defragmenter (I do it weekly, or more frequently if I manually install or
uninstall programs or files), and check Event Viewer for errors and fix any
errors you find using its Help and Support feature (I do this daily), and you
will have a fast, reliable, error-free system. Last but certainly not least,
update to SP2 if you haven't already done so, and keep your system fully up
to date. Do the same for the other software you use regularly.

[Note: I do sometimes use Diskeeper or PerfectDisk as my disk defragmenter,
but I am unaware of any testable evidence that they result in any transparent
performance improvements over Disk Defragmenter. The reason to use one of
these two products is to be able to automate defragmentation, which most
people don't like to do manually. Which one you use is primarily a function
of what your needs are.]

Now the questions. What do you think that the third party utilities will do
that Windows XP cannot or won't do? What problem do you think you are
solving by using a third party utility? Or is it merely a pseudo-problem
that some vendor is trying to convince you is a real problem that only his
product will fix, or fix better than the programs of competing vendors? The
vast majority of so-called computer "problems" fall into this category. Do
you ever wonder why -- with rare exceptions (e.g. Diskeeper) -- these third
party utilities almost never offer you a method for actually measuring the
increases in performance and stability? Think about it.

Even more fundamentally, do you understand how or why a computer performs as
well or as poorly as it does -- and that the reasons have virtually nothing
to do with the "problems" that third party utiltities supposedly fix? Your
CPU and RAM (including especially effective use of the system cache) probably
account for 95-97% of your computer's performance. Your hard drive accounts
for the other 3-5%. The maintenance program I outlined above affects mainly
hard drive performance.

When you load code from your hard drive into RAM, it stays there as long as
you have room (that's what the system cache does). The benefit to you is
that code already in RAM is executed much faster than code that the computer
must retrieve off the hard drive. To test this for yourself, reboot your
computer and then load a program you use regularly such as Outlook Express.
Once it fully loads, close it. Then open it again a second time. Did you
notice the speed difference? That's your RAM at work. No third party
utility can do that; only your hardware can. As long as Outlook Express
remains in RAM, you will get the speed improvement each time you load it.
This also works with files, such as picture files, documents, even music
files if your RAM system cache is big enough to handle it. XP is designed to
use as much of the system cache as it can -- which, incidentally, is why the
very worst utiltiy programs of all are memory managers that purport to "free
up memory" by flushing the system cache, meaning that the next time you load
the flushed code you must do it from the much slower hard drive.

If you want a really good performance tip, here is one that won't cost you a
dime and give you a much bigger improvement than the very best third party
utility suite you can name: don't reboot your computer unless you need to as
part of a system or software update. Instead, when you are done working,
just lock the computer or log out (you will need a password protected user
account to do this, but you should have one anyway for security reasons).
Learn that RAM is your friend, especially the system cache.

Ken
 
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Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP\)

For the most part, you don't need anything other than the XP utilities. Mot
of the others either insinuate themselves so deep in the system such as
Norton that, in and of themselves, they bog the system down. Most of what
these utilities can do are either duplicated in XP or are either unnecessary
or simply dangerous for most users to use.

There truly isn't much to be done other than defragging. XP's defragger is
adequate to the task however a more robust and faster utility is Raxco's
Perfect Disk, www.raxco.com. You probably should install a third party
firewall as XP's built-in firewall only monitors incoming attacks but
doesn't block or ordinarily alert to anything outgoing. You also need an
antivirus application and if you are interested in using CD-
RWs in the same fashion as you would your hard drive or a floppy disk as in
dragging and dropping or saving files directly to CD, then you will also
need some third party software such Roxio's Easy Media Creator or Ahead
Software's Nero as XP's burning capability does not support packet writing,
the process by which the above is accomplished.

--
In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol.

Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
 
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Ron Martell

Grant said:
Anyone have suggestions for the best Windows XP system maintenance utilities?
As in, is there any one set of utility software that is the most effective at
keeping XP running in good shape?

Examples are Symantec's Norton Systemworks (I heard mixed reviews about it),
Fixit Utilities, Tuneup Utilities, etc.

Any recommendations/experiences would be appreciated!

My personal choice would be "none of the above". Norton products are
bloated and often bug-ridden. I have no experience with the others
you mention.

What specific type of "tune up" are you trying to perform? Most of
these magic cure-all tools contain a large snake-oil component.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm
 
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Ken Blake

In
Grant said:
Anyone have suggestions for the best Windows XP system
maintenance
utilities? As in, is there any one set of utility software that
is
the most effective at keeping XP running in good shape?

Examples are Symantec's Norton Systemworks (I heard mixed
reviews
about it), Fixit Utilities, Tuneup Utilities, etc.

Any recommendations/experiences would be appreciated!


My strong recommendation is to avoid all such things, for two
reasons:

1. Most such needs are handled very well by built-in Windows
functions. Only occasionally is a third-party choice superior. In
many cases (like Norton) these utilities make things worse, not
better.

2. The concept of some *set* of utilties being best is basically
flawed. Even if some Norton Utilty performing function A were the
best of its kind, that doesn't mean that some other Norton Utilty
performing function B is necessarily the best of its kind.

So rather than look for some set, if I were you, I would try to
find and choose the best utilities that perform whatever
individual functions you want performed, without regard to what
"set" they are in, or even whether they are in any set at all. In
most cases, the right answer will be what comes with Windows. In
others, third-party choices may be better, but not necessarily
from a single vendor.
 
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Guest

I just notice that over time, like a year or more, slow problems start to
creep up in XP.

They are usually little things, like Windows forgetting folder settings or
explorer.exe crashing after long hours of use (all the icons disappear and
the bar with the start button disappears; then explorer restarts).

There are lots of other examples all in the same vein -- no show-stoppers,
but annoying.

Specifically how about registry cleaners -- that remove invalid or outdated
registry values to speed up/clean up the Windows registry ?? Is this
necessary? There isn't a built-in utility for this in XP, as far as I know.

BTW I have SP 2 installed.

Ken Gardner said:
Grant said:
Anyone have suggestions for the best Windows XP system maintenance utilities?
As in, is there any one set of utility software that is the most effective at
keeping XP running in good shape?
Examples are Symantec's Norton Systemworks (I heard mixed reviews about it),
Fixit Utilities, Tuneup Utilities, etc.
Any recommendations/experiences would be appreciated!

First my answer, and then some questions you should think about. Also,
these same comments apply to Internet security suites, although you are
asking about system utility suites.

First my answer: avoid them like the plague. Use the tools already built-in
to Windows XP. Regularly check your disk for errors using chkdsk (I do it
weekly), regularly run the disk cleanup program (I set it to run
automatically overnite), regularly defrag your drives using Disk
Defragmenter (I do it weekly, or more frequently if I manually install or
uninstall programs or files), and check Event Viewer for errors and fix any
errors you find using its Help and Support feature (I do this daily), and you
will have a fast, reliable, error-free system. Last but certainly not least,
update to SP2 if you haven't already done so, and keep your system fully up
to date. Do the same for the other software you use regularly.

[Note: I do sometimes use Diskeeper or PerfectDisk as my disk defragmenter,
but I am unaware of any testable evidence that they result in any transparent
performance improvements over Disk Defragmenter. The reason to use one of
these two products is to be able to automate defragmentation, which most
people don't like to do manually. Which one you use is primarily a function
of what your needs are.]

Now the questions. What do you think that the third party utilities will do
that Windows XP cannot or won't do? What problem do you think you are
solving by using a third party utility? Or is it merely a pseudo-problem
that some vendor is trying to convince you is a real problem that only his
product will fix, or fix better than the programs of competing vendors? The
vast majority of so-called computer "problems" fall into this category. Do
you ever wonder why -- with rare exceptions (e.g. Diskeeper) -- these third
party utilities almost never offer you a method for actually measuring the
increases in performance and stability? Think about it.

Even more fundamentally, do you understand how or why a computer performs as
well or as poorly as it does -- and that the reasons have virtually nothing
to do with the "problems" that third party utiltities supposedly fix? Your
CPU and RAM (including especially effective use of the system cache) probably
account for 95-97% of your computer's performance. Your hard drive accounts
for the other 3-5%. The maintenance program I outlined above affects mainly
hard drive performance.

When you load code from your hard drive into RAM, it stays there as long as
you have room (that's what the system cache does). The benefit to you is
that code already in RAM is executed much faster than code that the computer
must retrieve off the hard drive. To test this for yourself, reboot your
computer and then load a program you use regularly such as Outlook Express.
Once it fully loads, close it. Then open it again a second time. Did you
notice the speed difference? That's your RAM at work. No third party
utility can do that; only your hardware can. As long as Outlook Express
remains in RAM, you will get the speed improvement each time you load it.
This also works with files, such as picture files, documents, even music
files if your RAM system cache is big enough to handle it. XP is designed to
use as much of the system cache as it can -- which, incidentally, is why the
very worst utiltiy programs of all are memory managers that purport to "free
up memory" by flushing the system cache, meaning that the next time you load
the flushed code you must do it from the much slower hard drive.

If you want a really good performance tip, here is one that won't cost you a
dime and give you a much bigger improvement than the very best third party
utility suite you can name: don't reboot your computer unless you need to as
part of a system or software update. Instead, when you are done working,
just lock the computer or log out (you will need a password protected user
account to do this, but you should have one anyway for security reasons).
Learn that RAM is your friend, especially the system cache.

Ken
 
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Rock

Grant said:
I just notice that over time, like a year or more, slow problems start to
creep up in XP.

They are usually little things, like Windows forgetting folder settings or
explorer.exe crashing after long hours of use (all the icons disappear and
the bar with the start button disappears; then explorer restarts).

There are lots of other examples all in the same vein -- no show-stoppers,
but annoying.

Specifically how about registry cleaners -- that remove invalid or outdated
registry values to speed up/clean up the Windows registry ?? Is this
necessary? There isn't a built-in utility for this in XP, as far as I know.

BTW I have SP 2 installed.

Prior to SP2 XP had a limit of 400 folders, 200 regular and 200
networked, for which it would remember folder settings. So this issue
was not a function of developing problems. SP2 increases that limit to,
I believe, 10,0000, though I'm not sure on that number. For sp1 one can
use the edit on Kelly's site to increase it to 8000.

In general registry cleaners, especially in the hands of the less
knowledgeable, do much more harm than good. Some people use them but
make sure it has a backup provision to restore if something goes wrong.
It's best though to avoid these programs too.
 

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