XP Standby/Hibernate Issues

[aous124]

I am having troubles getting my pc to standby then hibernate. It seems
to work on shorter times <= 30 minutes, but not longer. I currently
have it set at: 2 hours - Standby, 3 hours hibernate.

I have looked at all the latest info from microsoft and tried just
about everything. I know about the 45 minute issue where possibly
windows starts doing maint. and resets the idle counter.

I have the latest xp updates (installed automatically) and have tried
numerous things such as disabling all devices ability to wake the
computer (mouse/keyboard/Network card). I've updated my drivers, etc..
I have also tried the MCE Standby tool (http://www.xs4all.nl/~hveijk/
mst/indexe.htm) and it seems to work better with that installed, but
it still fails more than it works.

I believe the issue is some application that is denying the request to
sleep. I would like to know if there are any programs out there or any
tools that would let me know which application has denied the request
to sleep.

Thanks

 

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standby then initiating
a hibernation
is impossible.

having the pc go into
hibernation then initiate
a standby is equally
impossible.

in both modes above
the cpu becomes inactive.

i recommend to utilize
the hibernation feature
to automatically power
down your pc when you
cannot.

maybe you can use a
screensaver to put your
desktop in standby.

i don't bother with screensavers,
but it might be likely
that the hibernation will
kick in after there is no
user activity.


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[aous124]

I've seen my computer go into standby, then x amount of minutes later
come out for a second to go into hibernation numerous times, so it
isn't impossible.

Anyways, back to what I'm looking for.

Does anyone know of a program that will detect which applications have
denied a request for standby.

These are the technical details:

Windows sends out this message to all programs: WM_POWERBROADCAST with
a submessage of PBT_APMQUERYSUSPEND. This means windows is asking all
running applications if it is ok to go into suspend mode. An
application can deny this request by returning the following value:
BROADCAST_QUERY_DENY.

I'm looking for some application that can detect which programs have
sent that message back out.

 

[Unknown]

That is incorrect. I go into standby and then hibernate at least 3 times
every day.

 

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don't waste your
breath on me,
fix the o.p.'s problem
then...

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[D. Spencer Hines]

If one sets the monitor to turn off after 30 minutes of no mouse movement
how does one turn it back on?...

Using Windows XP Pro SP2.

DSH

 

[R T]

http://www.xs4all.nl/~hveijk/mst/indexe.htm - Haven't tried it yet, but the
address has to be all on one line for site to be accessed.

Try leaving computer idle (blank screen saver) for 15 - 20 minutes before
selecting standby. That's the only (seemingly ineffective) move that works
for me, after months of wrong advice and aggravation. The wait time seems
like only superstition. Maybe it is. But Win XP apparenetly is slow to close
dependencies of cpu-intensive apps. Experts, please explain what I mean by
that.

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|I am having troubles getting my pc to standby then hibernate. It seems
| to work on shorter times <= 30 minutes, but not longer. I currently
| have it set at: 2 hours - Standby, 3 hours hibernate.
|
| I have looked at all the latest info from microsoft and tried just
| about everything. I know about the 45 minute issue where possibly
| windows starts doing maint. and resets the idle counter.
|
| I have the latest xp updates (installed automatically) and have tried
| numerous things such as disabling all devices ability to wake the
| computer (mouse/keyboard/Network card). I've updated my drivers, etc..
| I have also tried the MCE Standby tool (http://www.xs4all.nl/~hveijk/
| mst/indexe.htm) and it seems to work better with that installed, but
| it still fails more than it works.
|
| I believe the issue is some application that is denying the request to
| sleep. I would like to know if there are any programs out there or any
| tools that would let me know which application has denied the request
| to sleep.
|
| Thanks
|

 

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if it is a desktop
monitor, then it
likely turned off
when windows
powered it down.

most are designed to
conserve energy and
turn off but pressing the
power on button will
enable it.

however, if you are talking
about a laptop lcd panel,
then maybe the manufacturer
included a specialty power
management program or a
method unique to their hardware
designs.

in most cases pressing
a space bar or pressing
a combination of keys
can enable the monitor
again.

sometimes pressing
the "fn" and "brightness"
keys together can turn
on a lcd panel of a laptop.

the details are surely
provided by your laptops
manufacturer.


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[Unknown]

Why do you post erroneous statements then? Standby followed by hibernate
is perfectly valid.

 

[Unknown]

Desktop or laptop? Standby or hibernated?

 

[aous124]

Ok, I'll give this a try and see what happens.

Thanks

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

Dell XPS M170 laptop -- but no details.

I'm setting the Monitor Turnoff parameter in Power Options -- under Windows
XP Control Panel.

How do I turn the monitor back on?

Also, if I set Hard Drive Turnoff and System Standby options can I continue
to download a large file with those settings?

DSH

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[D. Spencer Hines]

Laptop.

Standby.

Or option to Hibernate.

DSH

Desktop or laptop? Standby or hibernated?

 

[Unknown]

If configured merely press a key on your keyboard and the monitor will
resume.
After hibernate you must use power on button.

 

[Unknown]

If you have nothing running in the background the computer will go into
standby after a timed period which you set.
From there it can go into hibernation after a timed period.

Ok, I'll give this a try and see what happens.

Thanks

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

Is there a trick to configuration for monitor wakeup?

What are the salient differences between Hibernation and Standby?

I've never seen a clear technical explanation of that.

Many Thanks.

DSH

If configured merely press a key on your keyboard and the monitor will
resume.

 

[Unknown]

Power is not shut off in standby. The monitor displays nothing, and all
programs remain in memory.
In hibernation all programs in memory are written to disk and then power is
completely turned off.
When coming out of hibernation the programs stored on disk are reloaded to
memory so the system is
exactly the same as it was before hibernating.

 

[R T]

| Ok, I'll give this a try and see what happens.
|
| Thanks

You're welcome. When you "give it a try", please remember first to exit,
as you said in original post you do, any app that might try to access
internet, e.g., A/V automatic update, time synchronizer, others. There are
some further steps you might take, in additionn to the wait period, so
please post if the small bit of voodoo - alone - that I described doesn't
work.

Good luck.

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|
| > http://www.xs4all.nl/~hveijk/mst/indexe.htm- Haven't tried it yet, but
the
| > address has to be all on one line for site to be accessed.
| >
| > Try leaving computer idle (blank screen saver) for 15 - 20 minutes
before
| > selectingstandby. That's the only (seemingly ineffective) move that
works
| > for me, after months of wrong advice and aggravation. The wait time
seems
| > like only superstition. Maybe it is. But WinXPapparenetly is slow to
close
| > dependencies of cpu-intensive apps. Experts, please explain what I mean
by
| > that.
| >
| > --
| > R T
| > address anti-spammed
| >
|

 

[D. Spencer Hines]

So, as long as a file is being downloaded the system will remain in standby
and not go into hibernation?

DSH

Power is not shut off in standby. The monitor displays nothing, and all
programs remain in memory.

 

[Unknown]

You cannot be in sleep mode if you are downloading. Sleep mode turns off the
monitor and drives.