Hello Charlie,
If the users are all adminsitrators then ususally most of the visible
problems aren't apparent.
items like shortcuts on startup menu may be located improperly yet of
permisions are not correct, but admins have access anyway.
the location of files like wall paper if they reside in the profile may
have access problems.
The issues can still exist however most of them probably will not be
detrimental in this case.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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<That's as good an answer as I'm going to find so I'm satisfied. I still
<think it's strange that MS uses that as the default behavior for Sysprep,
but
<no big deal.
<
<I've finally met with the person who is most responsible for deploying the
<images on my new team. As it turns out he IS creating and customizing a
<profile and copying it to the Default User profile. I believe he said
that
<the Adminstrator profile is renamed by Group Policy, so he has avoided the
<problem of Sysprep undoing his customizations.
<
<I mentioned to him the problems with copying profiles manually and he says
<there haven't been any. This a student computer lab where profiles aren't
<saved, nobody uses Outlook and data is saved on removable media.
<In this case, I think he may be correct that he won't have any problems.
<(And they will be HIS problems, since he is making the decisions.)
<What do you think?
<
<Thanks again.
<
<""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" wrote:
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<> Hello Charlie,
<> It certain is possible that some problems may remain after the change in
<> SP2. This should address some of the more common issues that were
occuring
<> after a profile copy and replace, but it may not have captured all the
<> possible conditions.
<> The permissions should be reset for example, some of the registry
settings
<> should not be correct for the new users. there are a lot of potential
for
<> issues with this procedure however this is starting point to make that
<> process easier and supportable.
<> Thanks,
<> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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<> <Thanks Darrell -
<> <
<> <I replied to this last night, but it doesn't show.
<> <Anyway, you answered my questions, for the most part.
<> <
<> <To answer your first question, I absolutely don't copy profiles because
of
<> <the problems, mentioned in my previous post, that I have seen it cause.
<> <
<> <The only big question I still have is whether these problems have been
<> <eliminated by this "supported method" of copying profiles when using
<> Sysprep.
<> < I had heard otherwise in this Newsgroup right after SP2 RTM was
released.
<> <
<> <It's important to me because I am about to work on creating images with
a
<> <new team, and I suspect that they have been customizing the
<> Administrator's
<> <profile and then letting Sysprep copy it to Default User.
<> <
<> <Thanks for your help.
<> <
<> <""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" wrote:
<> <
<> <> Hello Charlie,
<> <> So there are a couple of questions about which scenario you are
actually
<> <> asking about.
<> <> 1) Are you overwriting the default user profile with another profile?
<> If
<> <> the answer is yes there are issues with this and this shouldn't be
done.
<>
<> <> This can break any number of items and requires each user to be an
<> <> administator. Permissions and links in the profiles are no longer
<> correct.
<> <> 2) Are you asking if renaming the administrator profile is a
workaround
<> for
<> <> the issue with SP2 over writing it is acceptable? Yes this should
work
<> <> fine, the default user profile is not overwritten, this assumes that
you
<> <> are not overwriting the default user profile with another profile.
<> Sysprep
<> <> looks for an administrator profile and when it doesn't find one it
skips
<> <> the step of replacing the default user profile.
<> <> 3)The change to sysprep to overwrite the default user profile was
made
<> <> because people were requesting that they have a way to do this that
<> would
<> <> be supported. Since this option was added to Sysprep this is a
<> supported
<> <> way to copy over profile information and replace the default user
<> profile
<> <> with the Administrator profile.
<> <> Thanks,
<> <> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
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<> <> <As many people have discovered, when you create a computer image
from a
<> <> <Windows XP SP2 prototype then run Sysprep, the Default User profile
<> gets
<> <> <copied over by the Administrator profile.
<> <> <
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887816
<> <> <
<> <> <The above article mentions a hotfix. I have never used the hotfix
to
<> get
<> <> <around the problem, instead I just rename the Administrator account.
<> This
<> <> <has worked on several different prototypes and I haven't seen any
<> problems
<> <> <from it.
<> <> <
<> <> <Can someone confirm that there are no known issues with this method?
<> <> <Because I am about to be involved in the re-imaging for a large
student
<> <> <computer lab, I want to be certain. It's interesting that MS
doesn't
<> <> mention
<> <> <it as a workaround, so maybe there's a good reason.
<> <> <
<> <> <By the way, I have seen some serious problems created by copying
user
<> <> <profiles.
<> <> <I have seen where the Administrator's profile gets copied to the
<> Default
<> <> <User profile, then all users end up with the same Outlook.pst (the
one
<> in
<> <> the
<> <> <original profile) which can be a huge privacy problem as well as an
<> <> <inconvenience. In fact, if the user doesn't have Admin rights they
<> can't
<> <> <even open Outlook because they don't have access to the .pst in the
<> other
<> <> <profile. I have also seen where it creates a Desktop and My
Documents
<> <> Folder
<> <> <in the Local Service profile. Sometimes when the user tries to save
a
<> <> file,
<> <> <such as a Word document, the default My Documents folder that shows
in
<> the
<> <> <Save As dialog box is the one from Local Service. There are
<> undoubtedly
<> <> <other problems caused by this that I haven't even seen.
<> <> <
<> <> <Do these problems also show up when Sysprep causes the Administrator
<> <> profile
<> <> <to be copied to the Default User profile, or is that one of the
reasons
<> MS
<> <> <decided to do this?
<> <> <
<> <> <Thanks.
<> <> <
<> <>
<> <>
<> <
<>
<>
<