XP pro upgrade

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Guest

I have just bought a new computer with XP home on it. I wish to upgrade it to
XP pro. I have a Version 2002 XP pro upgrade CD but when I run it the setup
says that my version of XP home is newer tha the upgrade. Are there newer
versions of the XP pro upgrades available for purchase? What dates do they
carry? Is it possible to buy a 2005 or 2006 XP pro upgrade?
 
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Peter Foldes

You probably have SP2 installed on your XP Home version. Your XP Pro version CD does not have SP2 and that is why the discrepancy.

You can do 1 of 2 things. You can remove SP2 from your Home Edition and then install XP Pro or you can slipstream your XP Pro with SP2 before trying to Upgrade
 
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Guest

Dear Peter,
Yes you are right, the XP home on the new system has SP2 on it. I also have
a SP2 CD ROM. How do I remove SP2 from the home edition and/or how do I
slipstream XP pro upgrade with SP2?
Regards
AMcF
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Alex said:
I have just bought a new computer with XP home on it. I wish to
upgrade it to XP pro. I have a Version 2002 XP pro upgrade CD but
when I run it the setup says that my version of XP home is newer tha
the upgrade. Are there newer versions of the XP pro upgrades
available for purchase? What dates do they carry? Is it possible to
buy a 2005 or 2006 XP pro upgrade?


You have SP2 installed, and your XP Professional Upgrade is without it, so
is an older version than what's installed.



You have two choices:

1. Uninstall SP2, do the upgrade, then reinstall SP2.

2. Create a slipstreamed version of XP Professional, including SP2, and use
it. See http://forum.aumha.org/viewtopic.php?t=7262
 
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RoadRunner

Hi ... I am not familiar with the upgrade version but , What does having sp2
install or not got to do with installing the pro version ? I mean if the
bios is set to boot off from CD Rom and you place the upgrade pro version in
CD Rom , Then restart the computer wouldn't it not boot off this pro disk ?
I would believe that it would and you would be able to install the pro
version , Some where later on in the installment it will ask for a earlier
windows license keys version which is the home version , Once that is
enter wouldn't the pro version get install ?
 
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RoadRunner

Okay It just came to me , Once the home version gets enter at that point
thats when it gets rejected , Corret ?
 
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Rock

RoadRunner said:
Hi ... I am not familiar with the upgrade version but , What does having sp2
install or not got to do with installing the pro version ? I mean if the
bios is set to boot off from CD Rom and you place the upgrade pro version in
CD Rom , Then restart the computer wouldn't it not boot off this pro disk ?
I would believe that it would and you would be able to install the pro
version , Some where later on in the installment it will ask for a earlier
windows license keys version which is the home version , Once that is
enter wouldn't the pro version get install ?

He wants to do an upgrade, not a clean install.
 
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Rock

Alex said:
I have just bought a new computer with XP home on it. I wish to upgrade it to
XP pro. I have a Version 2002 XP pro upgrade CD but when I run it the setup
says that my version of XP home is newer tha the upgrade. Are there newer
versions of the XP pro upgrades available for purchase? What dates do they
carry? Is it possible to buy a 2005 or 2006 XP pro upgrade?

In addition to what others have said, for the XP Home computer you
probably can't remove SP2. It's most likely the original install. It
can only be removed if it was added as an upgrade. You'll need to do
the slipstream. Why is it that you want to upgrade. Home and Pro are
identical in core components - Pro is not better than Home. Pro has a
few features Home does not.

Links on slipstreaming:

http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp2_cd.htm
http://unattended.msfn.org/beginner/slipstream.htm

Autostreamer
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1092632287/1
http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/using_autostreamer/using_autostreamer.html
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=223562
 
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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE

Alex McFarlane said:
Dear Peter,
Yes you are right, the XP home on the new system has SP2 on it. I
also have a SP2 CD ROM. How do I remove SP2 from the home edition
and/or how do I slipstream XP pro upgrade with SP2?
Regards
AMcF

If it came with SP2 you can't remove SP2. You will need a retail XP Pro
Upgrade with SP2.

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http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
 
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ANONYMOUS

Ken,

You are wrong in (1). You can't uninstall SP2 if the machine came
preinstalled with XP SP2. The OP states " I have just bought a new
computer with XP home on it." All new PCs "just bought" come with XP
SP2. You can't uninstall because there is no backup of SP1 or for that
matter any backup files. Try it and let us know what happens.

I hope this helps.
 
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RoadRunner

This is true but, Some people believe because they have a upgrade version
disk that there only option to install this version is to update their
system from it but , They still can install this upgrade version from a
clean install , Correct ?
 
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Rock

RoadRunner said:
This is true but, Some people believe because they have a upgrade version
disk that there only option to install this version is to update their
system from it but , They still can install this upgrade version from a
clean install , Correct ?

Yes you can do a clean install with an upgrade disk. It will ask for
the qualifying CD to be entered, then it will go on with the clean
install, but the OP want's to upgrade.
 
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Dave

Rock,

But if the new computer didn't come with the OS CD how can they enter
their qualifying CD. Can you browse/point to C:\windows where the
factory installed home edition is likely to be? Most new computers from
top brands - HP, Sony, Tosh, even DELL comes with a restore Cd these
days. Microsoft is encouraging companies not to supply OEM CDs in order
to reduce difficulties of upgrade of systems and definition of whether
it is still the same system or not!

Your comments would be much appreciated.

Dave
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

RoadRunner said:
Hi ... I am not familiar with the upgrade version but , What does
having sp2 install or not got to do with installing the pro version ?
I mean if the bios is set to boot off from CD Rom and you place the
upgrade pro version in CD Rom , Then restart the computer wouldn't it
not boot off this pro disk ? I would believe that it would and you
would be able to install the pro version , Some where later on in the
installment it will ask for a earlier windows license keys version
which is the home version , Once that is enter wouldn't the pro
version get install ?


You're thinking of doing a clean installation with the Upgrade version.. But
that's not the way it works if you do an upgrade.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

ANONYMOUS said:
You are wrong in (1). You can't uninstall SP2 if the machine came
preinstalled with XP SP2. The OP states " I have just bought a new
computer with XP home on it." All new PCs "just bought" come with XP
SP2. You can't uninstall because there is no backup of SP1 or for
that matter any backup files. Try it and let us know what happens.


You are correct. If his copy of Home came with SP2, he can't uninstall it,
and choice 2 is his only option.
 
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Guest

To "Rock" and everyone,
The new computer is the Peer to Peer server for our home network. I have 2
laptops (one mine , one a work one), 5 children each with their own laptop, a
wife with hers and a spare computer used for backups. That makes 10
computers, a tad too many to peer to peer network with XP home I think.
Regards
AMcF
 
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Gordon

Alex McFarlane said:
To "Rock" and everyone,
The new computer is the Peer to Peer server for our home network. I
have 2 laptops (one mine , one a work one), 5 children each with
their own laptop, a wife with hers and a spare computer used for
backups. That makes 10 computers, a tad too many to peer to peer
network with XP home I think. Regards
AMcF

I'm not trying to be funny here, and I'm not posting with an anti-MS
viewpoint in an MS newsgroup, just trying to suggest an alternative way out
of your dilemma. As you have so many machines networked, have you ever
thought of using Linux as your server OS? It would enable you to actually
run a proper Server OS (for nothing!) rather than using XP as a "server"
(and for which it is not really designed). You could set up your own
internal mail server and all that sort of thing.

Just a thought.
 
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Rock

Dave said:
Rock,

But if the new computer didn't come with the OS CD how can they enter
their qualifying CD. Can you browse/point to C:\windows where the
factory installed home edition is likely to be? Most new computers from
top brands - HP, Sony, Tosh, even DELL comes with a restore Cd these
days. Microsoft is encouraging companies not to supply OEM CDs in order
to reduce difficulties of upgrade of systems and definition of whether
it is still the same system or not!

Your comments would be much appreciated.

Dave

Well that's a problem with not having an installation CD. In the case
you state, you need to install the original OS then do the upgrade from
within windows.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Alex said:
To "Rock" and everyone,
The new computer is the Peer to Peer server for our home network. I
have 2 laptops (one mine , one a work one), 5 children each with
their own laptop, a wife with hers and a spare computer used for
backups. That makes 10 computers, a tad too many to peer to peer
network with XP home I think. Regards



It's not necessarily too many for XP Home. True, XP Home's limit is five
simultaneous connections, but that doesn't mean you can have only five
computers on your network. It depends on what you do and how you use your
computers, but chances are that it will be rarely if ever that you would
ever need to have more than five of those computers connected at once.
 

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