XP on Win2k netBEUI network

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Guest

I am adding a Win XP pro PC to a network with multiple Win2k systems using
netBEUI. I never was able to get other protocols to file share on this net
(DSL modem with Netgear MR314 router). I installed netBEUI on the XP PC, but
it is very slow. How should I set up an alternate protocol?

The network setup wizard doesn't recommend this configuration, but I think
my router security + ZoneAlarm is sufficient.
 
R

Ron Lowe

gh said:
I am adding a Win XP pro PC to a network with multiple Win2k systems using
netBEUI. I never was able to get other protocols to file share on this
net
(DSL modem with Netgear MR314 router). I installed netBEUI on the XP PC,
but
it is very slow. How should I set up an alternate protocol?

The network setup wizard doesn't recommend this configuration, but I think
my router security + ZoneAlarm is sufficient.

I'd use TCP/IP only on all the machines.

If the wizard is telling you this is not a recommended config, I think you
have chosen a wrong option in he wizard.

It looks like you have chosen the hub option.
You need to select the Residential Gateway option, that's what the wizard
calls your router.

Then, the wizard will set things up properly.
 
G

Guest

Thanks for the help.

I ran the wiz again as you said; I don't see that any TCP/IP settings have
changed. The wizard installer doesn't work on the win2k systems, so I did
settings manually. I then disabled netBEUI and NWlink protocols on 2 PCs,
but get "list of servers not available" error when looking in the workgroup.
I set a default gateway (192.168.1.0) on each PC with metric 1, but w/o luck.

Here is route print output:

===========================================================================
Interface List
0x1 ........................... MS TCP Loopback interface
0x2 ...00 0d 56 f9 b8 19 ...... Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network Connection -
Packet
Scheduler Miniport
===========================================================================
===========================================================================
Active Routes:
Network Destination Netmask Gateway Interface Metric
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 20
127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1
192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.2 20
192.168.0.2 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 20
192.168.0.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.2 20
224.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.2 20
255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.2 1
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
===========================================================================
Persistent Routes:
None

What am I missing on the TCP/IP setup?

Thanks again!
 
R

Ron Lowe

gh said:
Thanks for the help.

I ran the wiz again as you said; I don't see that any TCP/IP settings have
changed. The wizard installer doesn't work on the win2k systems, so I did
settings manually. I then disabled netBEUI and NWlink protocols on 2 PCs,
but get "list of servers not available" error when looking in the
workgroup.
I set a default gateway (192.168.1.0) on each PC with metric 1, but w/o
luck.



Let all the machines 'Obtain IP address Automatically' from the router.
Remove any manual configuration for IP address, subnet mask, default
gateway, DNS server.

From a command prompt, do an 'ipconfig /renew'
to force each machine to pick up an IP address from the router.

From the same command prompt, do an 'ipconfig /all'.

Check the machines have all picked up the following:

An IP addresses in the same subnet ( ie all 192.168.0.x );
All should have a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0;
All should point to the router ( 192.168.0.1, I presume ) as a Default
Gateway;
Either the router or an ISP's DNS server under DNS;
All should show the router as the DHCP server.

Check each machine can ping it's own IP address, eg:

ping 192.168.0.2

Now try to ping each machine from each other, using IP address, eg:

ping 192.168.0.3

What works, and what doesnt?

If any machine is unpingable, then it's probably a firewall issue.
For XP SP2, enable the File and Print sharing exception in the firewall.
For XP pre-SP2, disable the firerwall on the LAN connection.
Fully un-install any other firewalls like ZA whilst troubleshooting too.
Be carefull : ZA does not cleanly un-install.
Use the tray icon to disable 'run at boot-up';
Re-boot and ensure ZA is not running;
Un-install it now.

Now try pinging each machine from each other.
You must get to the point where all machines are pingable by IP address from
each other machine.

Now try to ping each machine from each other by name, eg:

ping otherpc

Again, what works and what doesnt?

If any machine cannot resolve names, then check NetBIOS-over-TCP/IP
is enabled on TCP/IP advanced properties, WINS tab.

Again, check there is no firewall stopping NetBIOS.
You must get to the point where all machines are pingable by name from each
other machine.

Once all machines can ping each other by name, then your LAN ought to work.
Re-instate ZA if you want, but be sure to add your local subnet to the local
trusted zone.
 

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