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FM
I'm planning to upgrade from ME to XP. Will I be able to
install XP in all four of my computers at no extra cost?
Thank you
install XP in all four of my computers at no extra cost?
Thank you
M
Myron J. Mandell
No.
You will need to purchase four licenses.
If you like, you can purchase "additional licenses" directly from Microsoft
at a small discount.
Myron
You will need to purchase four licenses.
If you like, you can purchase "additional licenses" directly from Microsoft
at a small discount.
Myron
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Bastet
FM said:
No, of course not! If you had ME installed on all four systems you were in
violation of the EULA - just because you can do something doesn't mean you
should - or that's it's legal.
By installing ME on all four systems means you had stolen three licences.
Four systems = FOUR licences.
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Guest
Each computer must have it's own licensed copy of XP to
be legal.
be legal.
G
Guest
The EULA is none of the below, so therefore means nothing.
1 : of or relating to law
2 a : deriving authority from or founded on law b : having
a formal status derived from law often without a basis in
actual fact c : established by law;
3 : conforming to or permitted by law or established rules
4 : recognized or made effective by a court of law as
distinguished from a court of equity
5 : of, relating to, or having the characteristics of the
profession of law or of one of its members
6 : created by the constructions of the law
1 : of or relating to law
2 a : deriving authority from or founded on law b : having
a formal status derived from law often without a basis in
actual fact c : established by law;
3 : conforming to or permitted by law or established rules
4 : recognized or made effective by a court of law as
distinguished from a court of equity
5 : of, relating to, or having the characteristics of the
profession of law or of one of its members
6 : created by the constructions of the law
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Guest
Stolen ????????? How do you steal something that belongs
to you in the first place...........lol That sounds like
MS logic !!!!!!!
to you in the first place...........lol That sounds like
MS logic !!!!!!!
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Lorne Smith
Gawd, not this old argument again.... When you buy XP you do NOT purchase
ownership of the software, you purchase a licence to USE the software on ONE
computer. the only thing you physically own about XP is the media the
software is shipped on and the licence...
Lorne
ownership of the software, you purchase a licence to USE the software on ONE
computer. the only thing you physically own about XP is the media the
software is shipped on and the licence...
Lorne
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Guest
That is what the EULA says and that is what you say,
neither are correct, Thats the point !!!!!!!!!!
neither are correct, Thats the point !!!!!!!!!!
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kurttrail
Lorne said:
I purchase a *copy* of software. MS would have to prove otherwise, in a
court of law, to enforce their opinion to the contrary.
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Keith
From what I understand, if you are using a OEM version on ME, then you CAN
NOT upgrade the OEM version of ME to XP. YOu have to legally purchase XP
for the 4 computers. OEM versions of software are NOT transferable, or
upgradable.
NOT upgrade the OEM version of ME to XP. YOu have to legally purchase XP
for the 4 computers. OEM versions of software are NOT transferable, or
upgradable.
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Lorne Smith
I'm not going to get dragged into a discussion here... There are 2 sides of
the arguement, and neither has so far managed to persuade the other side so
why start the whole thing up again?
Lorne
the arguement, and neither has so far managed to persuade the other side so
why start the whole thing up again?
Lorne
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kurttrail
Lorne said:
Why not? Some people aren't on any side, and might benefit from hearing
both sides of this issue, so that they can come to a more informed
opinion for themselves.
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Anon
I agree with Kurttrail!
--
"Windows [n.]
A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit
patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded
for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two-bit
company that can't stand one bit of competition."
(Anonymous USEnet post)
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Darrell
Don't be confused by that argument about legal vs illegal. You CAN'T
install XP in more that one computer. It has internal protections that
prevent you from doing so. So it's more than whether you SHOULD or
SHOULDN'T install in more than one computer. You CAN'T!
Now there are some provisions like time/permits/etc that vary this a little
but.....
install XP in more that one computer. It has internal protections that
prevent you from doing so. So it's more than whether you SHOULD or
SHOULDN'T install in more than one computer. You CAN'T!
Now there are some provisions like time/permits/etc that vary this a little
but.....
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Keith
Look, it's nice and simple. You don't own the software, just a license to
use it. If you buy 1 license, you can install it once, not on 50 million
other computers.
Read the damn thing.
use it. If you buy 1 license, you can install it once, not on 50 million
other computers.
Read the damn thing.
Anon said:
I agree with Kurttrail!
--
"Windows [n.]
A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit
patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded
for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two-bit
company that can't stand one bit of competition."
(Anonymous USEnet post)
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kurttrail
Keith said:
So you believe everything that is written by a financially-biased
corporation to be truthful?
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kurttrail
Darrell said:
Don't be confused by your FUD vs. REALITY! MS has absolutely no way to
know what exact hardware Windows has been installed on unless the END
USER actually tells one of MS's PA phone reps. PA is FUD to trick more
money out of the unsuspecting consumer for the same product. An
educated consumer is fooled by MS's PA FUD.
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Gary Tait
No, you purchase the media. Possesion of the media alone is no right
to use it, in the case of most MS and other commercial software. Your
right to use the software is solely based on your posession of one COA
per PC you wish to install the software on (in the case of OSes).
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Gary Tait
But MSes potential not knowing does not equal their EULA meaning
nothing.
K
kurttrail
Gary said:
"'Copies' are material objects, other than phonorecords, in which a work
is fixed by any method now known or later developed, and from which the
work can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either
directly or with the aid of a machine or device. The term 'copies'
includes the material object, other than a phonorecord, in which the
work is first fixed." - http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/101.html
Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 117. - Limitations on exclusive rights:
Computer programs
(a) Making of Additional Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. -
Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement
for the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the
making of another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:
(1) that such a new copy or adaptation is created as an essential step
in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a machine
and that it is used in no other manner, or
(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and
that all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued
possession of the computer program should cease to be rightful.
I'll go by the definitions & laws laid out under Title 17, and the
reality that I purchased my copy of software from the previous owner of
that copy, the retailer.
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