xp ie6 No offline view of synchronized pages

[jan]

When synchronizing on line, the process seems to go all
right.
But when offline these pages can not be found.
What settings are incorrect? This is a stand alone
laptop. I am administrator (although I am not too
proficient with pc use).
I talked long with the Compaq support desk, who also
could not understand what cause this has.
So if you know how to chance stttings, please advice, if
possible to the above e-mail address.
Thank you,

Jan

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

when offline these pages can not be found.

Content providers can code prevent their material from being cached.
That prevents you from using it offline.

Cite a link you are having trouble with if you need more help.

 

[jwbnl]

sorry for my slow reply.
One example of a link with its 3 levels deep attached
linked information:
http://www.hclrss.demon.co.uk/class_pesticides.html

and another one:

http://unkraut.rheinmedia.de/cgi-bin/unkraut_ausgabe.cgi?
baum_ebene=0&auswahl_blaetter=419&lexikon_sprache=nl&lexik
on_id=902&sprache=nl&partner=irs&funktion=set_baum&baum_eb
ene_0=1&baum_ebene_1=410

I really doubt if your suggestion gives the cause.
An other specialist gave me the advice to reset my
settings to the defaults. Now my homepage will only open
when I am online, whereas I could previously open most of
the pages visited off-line (even w/o synchronization this
was possible) until I would clear history and files.

I wished I knew where to find this info.

If you have a good clue, I would appreciate your help.
Thanks,
Jan

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

sorry for my slow reply.
One example of a link with its 3 levels deep attached
linked information:
http://www.hclrss.demon.co.uk/class_pesticides.html

I think traversals 3 levels deep should be disallowed.
Typically the user is clueless about the implications of making
such a request and a consequence of them doing it too much
may be to have have even traversals of 1 level deep disallowed
by the site when they start investigating bandwidth problems.
I only ever use 1 level deep, usually from an index page or
sitemap.

You are lucky that this site apparently still allows deeper traversals
but some of the external sites it links to are disallowing all access
by their robots.txt specifications. An example of that on the
page you are starting from is this link:

< http://agclass.nal.usda.gov/agt/agt.htm >

If you open the TIF viewer after the synchronization you can find this file

< http://agclass.nal.usda.gov/robots.txt >

which contains

<quote>
User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin/
Disallow: /2002/
Disallow: /agt/
Disallow: /Altrntvs/
Disallow: /2003/
Disallow: /2005/
Disallow: /usda/</quote>

Since there is a match on that third line for the above link
IE will not enter that site via synchronization using that link.
If you do want that page you can visit it manually and fortunately
it is completely cacheable so you will then be able to use it
offline too.

and another one:

http://unkraut.rheinmedia.de/cgi-bi...tion=set_baum&baum_ebene_0=1&baum_ebene_1=410

This is not a good page to try to synchronize with.
The page is constructed from frames and many of the "links"
are only accessed via Javascript commands. So even if
the synchronization spider knew what to do with the frames
it would not know what to do with the Javascript.

Again, it appears that visiting such links manually will allow you
to use them offline.


HTH

Robert
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[Guest]

Thanks for your explanation. I think I understand what
you're saying.
But what can I do to retrieve the possibility to have at
least my home page come up off line, a possibility which
I have lost after ressting to default?
Jan

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

Thanks for your explanation. I think I understand what
you're saying.
But what can I do to retrieve the possibility to have at
least my home page come up off line, a possibility which
I have lost after ressting to default?
Jan

Test whether it should come up offline.
Open the page. Set Work Offline (e.g. press Alt-F,W)
Clone the page in a new window while offline. (Press Ctrl-N)
Does the clone render without attempting to reconnect?
Does the page load anyway if you click on Stay Offline?
If not, you have an example of why the page would not be usable
as an offline home page. In that case it may be a better choice
to have About:Blank as your Home page and leave that page
as a Favorite or a Links bar button.

Have you tried synchronizing the page? It's possible that doing that
would give the page and its components some different attributes
which would make it more usable while offline.

Somebody who was complaining about a similar issue reported back
that they found that using a proxy (WebWasher, I think it was) solved
the problem. Perhaps the proxy filters out non-cacheable attributes
thus allowing IE to save all pages' components in the TIF.


HTH

Robert
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