Xp home networking problems...

[Guest]

Hi, im trying to set up a network at home with my 2 pcs using a couple of
network cards and a crossover cable.
My main pc is a new P4 with Xp Home including all Service packs etc while
the second one i got given to me and is running Xp Pro with no updates
installed.
I am able to surf the net on my slave pc using my broadband connection on
the new pc so i must be doing something right but when i click on 'view
network computers' in My Network Places i get the following error/message;

MSHome is not accessable. You might not have permission to use the network
resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have
access permissions. The list of servers for the workgroup is not currently
available.

I have enclosed the results of the ipconfig tests that ive seen requested in
other messages.

Main Pc - Xp home.....

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : NEW

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-09-2E-0A-E5

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :



PPP adapter Internet ADSL:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.46.187.27

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 80.46.187.27

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 212.74.114.129

212.74.114.193



Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%4

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 50-2E-BB-1B

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:502e:bb1b::502e:bb1b

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2001:a60::89:1:1:3

2002:836b:213c:1:e0:8f08:f020:8

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 50-2E-BB-1B

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:80.46.187.27%2

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : C0-A8-00-01

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.0.1%2

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%1

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%1

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Slave Pc - XpPro.....

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : OLD

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : D-Link DE-528 Ethernet PCI Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-BA-E2-99-B8

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

The second one doesnt contain anywhere near the same amount of info :-/

Hopefully that will give someone enough information to help me diagnose my
problem.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Chuck]

Hi, im trying to set up a network at home with my 2 pcs using a couple of
network cards and a crossover cable.
My main pc is a new P4 with Xp Home including all Service packs etc while
the second one i got given to me and is running Xp Pro with no updates
installed.
I am able to surf the net on my slave pc using my broadband connection on
the new pc so i must be doing something right but when i click on 'view
network computers' in My Network Places i get the following error/message;

MSHome is not accessable. You might not have permission to use the network
resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have
access permissions. The list of servers for the workgroup is not currently
available.

I have enclosed the results of the ipconfig tests that ive seen requested in
other messages.

The second one doesnt contain anywhere near the same amount of info :-/

Hopefully that will give someone enough information to help me diagnose my
problem.

Thanks in advance.

Luke,

Your computer OLD doesn't have Teredo Tunneling aka Microsoft TCP/IP V6
installed. So yes, the IPConfig for OLD is going to be a bit smaller than for
NEW.

Please start by un installing unnecessary components, from the list of items
under Local Area Connection Properties. You only need the following items in
the list:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler (optional)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

Make sure you have both Client for Microsoft Networks, and File and Printer
Sharing for Microsoft Networks (Local Area Connection - Properties), on each
computer. And have shares setup on each computer, so each will show up in
Network Neighborhood.

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (Local Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP -
Properties - Advanced - WINS) on each computer.

Make sure the browser service is running on NEW. Control Panel - Administrative
Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the TCP/IP NetBIOS
Helper, services both show with Status = Started. Disable the browser on OLD.

Are OLD and NEW running XP Home? XP Pro? A mixture? Other operating systems?
This makes a difference. Setting up file sharing varies according to what
operating system each computer is running.
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On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro,
you need to have SFS properly set on each computer.

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.

On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest with Start - Run -
"cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window.

On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local
Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights Assignment,
on the XP Pro computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the
network". Make sure Guest is not in the list.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF / WF, or third party)? If
so, you need to configure them for file sharing. Firewall configurations are a
very common cause of (network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

If no help yet, provide updated ipconfig information for each computer, and
we'll do some more diagnoses to tell us what to look at next.

 

[Guest]

Cheers for the reply Chuck. Just in from work and its a bit late. Will run
through your reply in detail in the morning and get back to you...thanks

 

[Guest]

Right, I followed your well put across instructions and eventually managed to
get the 2 pcs 'talking' to each other at last. Im unsure what part of your
advice done the trick as i just followed it through then rebooted both
machines and everything was fine.
I had to venture into Norton Internet Security 2005 and fiddle around with
the network settings to get my network operating with Nortons enabled but now
all is well, thanks.

One other thing if i may...My 'new' pc is the one with the dsl connection
but when i start the old pc up, it automatically connects to the net via the
connection on the new pc. Is it possible for me to control (from the new pc)
when the old pc gets net access. The reason i ask is that the 'old' pc is
going into my sons room and i would like to be able to enable/disable net
access at my discression. Im not worried about censoring what he surfs for,
just the ability to connect/disconnect his pc.

Thanks again

Luke

 

[Chuck]

Right, I followed your well put across instructions and eventually managed to
get the 2 pcs 'talking' to each other at last. Im unsure what part of your
advice done the trick as i just followed it through then rebooted both
machines and everything was fine.
I had to venture into Norton Internet Security 2005 and fiddle around with
the network settings to get my network operating with Nortons enabled but now
all is well, thanks.

One other thing if i may...My 'new' pc is the one with the dsl connection
but when i start the old pc up, it automatically connects to the net via the
connection on the new pc. Is it possible for me to control (from the new pc)
when the old pc gets net access. The reason i ask is that the 'old' pc is
going into my sons room and i would like to be able to enable/disable net
access at my discression. Im not worried about censoring what he surfs for,
just the ability to connect/disconnect his pc.

Thanks again

Luke

Luke,

Great. Thanks for the update.

Under Dial-up Properties - Advanced - Internet Connection Sharing, you have the
option "Allow other network users to control or disable the internet
connection". If you disable it, he'll have to ask you to enable the internet.
Or, if you're on the net when you don't want him on, I think with ICS the only
option is for you to disconnect the cable between OLD and NEW. If you want more
control, like time of day and destination filtering, you'll need a proxy server
or NAT router.

 

[Guest]

Cheers pal...thanks for all your assistance.

Luke