Limited or No Connectivity

G

Guest

Help PLEASE!
I have a desktop running XP Pro SP2 and a Toshiba notebook running XP Home
SP1. They are direct connected with a cross over cable. I can read and move
files back and forth between them with no problem. The problem is that the
desktop tells me that I have "Limited or No Connectivity". The desktop is
connected to the internet via a cable modem with a USB cable. No problem get
on line with the desktop, but the notebook will not let me on line.

From the notebook I can not 'ping' any public website. I have looked at
several web sites operated by MVP's and haven't yet found an answer.

The following is the text from ipconfig on the notebook:


Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Traveler

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes



Ethernet adapter Home Network:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-7B-8D-52-15

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.175.54

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

The following is the text from the text from ipcoonfig from the desktop:


Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CURTIS

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.



Ethernet adapter Home Network:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-D8-E6-8C-1E

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.115.217

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
2002:4229:bb69:4:d5ef:52cb:3ff2:4a45

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . :
2002:4229:bb69:4:211:d8ff:fee6:8c1e

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0::4:211:d8ff:fee6:8c1e%2

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::211:d8ff:fee6:8c1e%4

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2



Ethernet adapter Internet Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Motorola SURFboard SB5100 USB
Cable Modem

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-9F-49-3D-5B

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.187.105

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::20f:9fff:fe49:3d5b%6

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.184.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.77.10

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.77.130

68.87.72.130

fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, April 07, 2006 4:23:20 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, April 10, 2006 10:23:02 PM



Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 80-00-FB-F4-BD-D6-44-96

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5445:5245:444f%5

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6to4 Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 42-29-BB-69

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 2002:4229:bb69::4229:bb69

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 2001:620:0:c000::a

2002:836b:213c:1:e0:8f08:f020:8

2002:c058:6301::c058:6301

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : A9-FE-73-D9

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:169.254.115.217%2

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



Tunnel adapter Automatic Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Automatic Tunneling
Pseudo-Interface

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 42-29-BB-69

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::5efe:66.41.187.105%2

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fec0:0:0:ffff::1%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::2%2

fec0:0:0:ffff::3%2

NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Anybody out there got any suggestions in solving this problem before I turn
into an alcholic? Help is much appreciated.
 
H

Hans-Georg Michna

I have a desktop running XP Pro SP2 and a Toshiba notebook running XP Home
SP1. They are direct connected with a cross over cable. I can read and move
files back and forth between them with no problem. The problem is that the
desktop tells me that I have "Limited or No Connectivity". The desktop is
connected to the internet via a cable modem with a USB cable. No problem get
on line with the desktop, but the notebook will not let me on line.

From the notebook I can not 'ping' any public website. I have looked at
several web sites operated by MVP's and haven't yet found an answer.

Normally you have to enable Internet Connection Sharing on the
Internet connection. But I don't know what the many tunneling
adapters mean in your ipconfig log.

Hans-Georg
 
H

Hans-Georg Michna

Network connections folder show Internet connection as shared.

Your ipconfig log looks very unusual. You seem to have IPv6
installed. If you are not perfectly sure that you actually need
that, you most likely don't, so uninstalling IPv6 would be a
first step.

The next thing I'd try to find out is where those tunneling
adapters come from. Do you have third party networking software
installed? What for?

After cleaning out the network stack and if it still doesn't
work, you could check http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm for possible
causes.

Hans-Georg
 
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Archive >:-) Ed

might be a little off here but if the laptop is the source of the
internet connection it needs to be IP# 192.168.0.1 the tower can be
whatever. Set the IP on the tower to a static number like
192.168.0.10. submask should come up 255.255.255.0 and put the gateway
as 192.168.0.1. I have this type of problem here a lot. once you take
that stupid DHCP server out of the loop everything usually works fine.

I agree with taking the v6 out. never needed it.

Might also consider getting a router. I bought a nice little 4 port
one from best buy for $50. has served me well.
 
G

Guest

One item at a time...
I have uninstalled IPv6 and the tunneling adaptors have disappeared, so they
must have been associated with v6. My ipconfig log now is very clean and
looks like this:

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Home Network:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.115.217

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Internet Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.187.105

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.184.1

To my knowledge there is no third party networking software installed or
running on either machine.

I still am not able to connected to the internet via the notebook.

I hit your website, and filled out the form. If the answer to my problem is
there, I apparently am not knowledgeable enough to see it.

I also intstalled Windows SP2 fix KB884020 on the desktop, and that hasn't
helped.

On the desktop, I have gone to the help menu in XP and run the system scan
for networking. Everything 'passed'. Do I need XP SP2 installed on the
notebook to match the version on the desktop?

Cookie
 
G

Guest

Just to set things straight... the desktop, not the notebook, is the source
of my internet connection. I have no problems connecting to the internet
using the desktop. The problem is getting the notebook to connect to the
internet via the network.

The rest of the network is working fine. Can work back and forth between
the two machines.

Not sure what a router of a hub would do to solve the problem? Maybe you
can explain further.

You might also take a look at my last post to Hans-Georg. You see that
uninstalled IP v6 and the ipconfig log is pretty clean.

Thanks... Cookie.
 
H

Hans-Georg Michna

One item at a time...
I have uninstalled IPv6 and the tunneling adaptors have disappeared, so they
must have been associated with v6. My ipconfig log now is very clean and
looks like this:
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.115.217

Cookie,

I understand that's the IP address of the LAN Ethernet adapter
of the desktop computer, which is connected via crossover cable
to the laptop.

That IP address is wrong. When you enable Internet Connection
Sharing on a computer, the LAN port automatically gets the
unalterable IP address 192.168.0.1. Since this didn't happen,
something went wrong with the Internet Connection Sharing.

Please make sure the settings of the LAN port are set to all
automatic.

On the other port, the one leading to the Internet, you need to
have Internet Connection Sharing enabled. After you have done
this, the LAN port should automatically assume the IP address of
192.168.0.1.

Perhaps there is a third port that Windows now tries to use for
ICS. Sometimes it sees a Firewire (IEEE 1384) connector and
tries to use that as a network connection. Whatever it is,
disable it.

Hans-Georg
 
G

Guest

Hans-Georg...

You're correct, the two computers are connected via a simple cross over
cable. Also there was a Hotwire 1394 adapter port. I disabled it and ran
the wizard again and now the ipconfig looks like this on the desktop, which
connects to the internet:
Ethernet adapter Home Network:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Internet Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.187.105

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.184.1

So now the address of the desktop should be correct. The status now shows
'connected' and the 'Limited or No Connectivity' warning has disappeared.

However, I can not see the notebook in my Network Places. It appears the
two machines are not talking. I went to the notebook and disabled the
Hotwire 1394 adapter there also and reran the wizard again. Now the ipconfig
file on the notebook looks like this:
Ethernet adapter Home Network:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.254.175.54

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Obviously this address is wrong. Subnet Masks don't match. Address was
obtained automatically. Should I manually set an address?

What do you suggest?

Cookie
 
G

Guest

Hans-Georg,
I have been hacking and manually (static) set the ip address on the notebook
to 192.168.0.10, subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, and default gateway to
192.169.0.1. I can now get the two machines to communicate but still can't
get to the internet from the notebook.

Am I moving in the right direction?
 
H

Hans-Georg Michna

I have been hacking and manually (static) set the ip address on the notebook
to 192.168.0.10, subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, and default gateway to
192.169.0.1. I can now get the two machines to communicate but still can't
get to the internet from the notebook.

Am I moving in the right direction?

Cookie,

yes, I would also have proposed that as a test. It is not a
solution, because if the second client, the notebook computer,
doesn't get a DHCP address assigned automatically, then there is
something wrong.

I think you should go through http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm again
with the new information, because there are several possible
causes, among them spyware, bad third party software, wrong
firewall settings, Winsock corruption. The web page lists them
all and proposes solutions. Unfortunately some causes can be on
the desktop and some on the notebook, so it's kind of difficult.

Do you have another computer to test? That would be a quick and
easy way to trace the cause to one computer.

Hans-Georg
 
G

Guest

Hans-Georg,

In following instructions on your site I've completed the following:

1. Scanned entire system on desktop with Ad-aware and removed all spyware
it found.
2. Scanned entire system on desktop with Spybot Search and Destroy and
found nothing.
3. Scanned entire system on desktop with AVG Pro and it found nothing.

If there was to be a problem with spyware or a virus, I think it would have
to be on the desktop because the notebook has never been on line, unless it
traveled over the network.

In reading a little further, I got into the Winsock area, and per the
instructions I did a reset and repair of the Winsock. I also have a log. I
can send it to you if you wish.

After doing the above, I re-ran the Network Wizard again, 1st on the desktop
with the notebook turned off, and then on the notebook. It still gave me
wrong addresses when I set things to auto. When setting the addresses
statically, the machines would talk to each other, but still no internet
connection from the notebook.

Here's the text from the desktop ipconfig/all:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CURTIS
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Home Network:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-D8-E6-8C-1E
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.168.0.1
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Internet Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Motorola SURFboard SB5100 USB
Cable Modem
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-9F-49-3D-5B
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.187.105
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.184.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.77.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.77.130
68.87.72.130
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, April 21, 2006 12:53:40 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, April 25, 2006 12:53:40
PM

Now I noticed that on the Ethernet adaper: Homne network, that DHCP is not
enabled. Is this because the addresses have been set statically? Or can I
enable this some way to have it automatically assign the correct address?

Now a real clue may lay with the fact that I.E. closes when I try to open a
couple of websites from the Favorites menu? Most of them work ok, but a
couple just close I.E.

Where do I go now... besides to Hell?

Cookie
 
H

Hans-Georg Michna

In following instructions on your site I've completed the following:

1. Scanned entire system on desktop with Ad-aware and removed all spyware
it found.
2. Scanned entire system on desktop with Spybot Search and Destroy and
found nothing.
3. Scanned entire system on desktop with AVG Pro and it found nothing.

If there was to be a problem with spyware or a virus, I think it would have
to be on the desktop because the notebook has never been on line, unless it
traveled over the network.

Cookie,

OK, it's awkward to have to do all those things, but this was
one possible cause.
In reading a little further, I got into the Winsock area, and per the
instructions I did a reset and repair of the Winsock. I also have a log. I
can send it to you if you wish.

Don't worry. If the Winsock was reset, that should be allright.
After doing the above, I re-ran the Network Wizard again, 1st on the desktop
with the notebook turned off, and then on the notebook. It still gave me
wrong addresses when I set things to auto. When setting the addresses
statically, the machines would talk to each other, but still no internet
connection from the notebook.

Here one possible cause is to enter wrong information into the
Network Wizard. On the desktop you should say that this computer
has a direct Internet connection. On the laptop you should say
that this computer connects through another computer on the LAN.
Here's the text from the desktop ipconfig/all:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CURTIS
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Home Network:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-D8-E6-8C-1E
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.168.0.1

Have you perhaps retyped this and mistyped? It should be
192.168.0.1 on the LAN adapter of the desktop.

If so, you can instead create this log by entering:

ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.log

Then you'll find the text in that file. You can give a different
location and file name, if you like.

If, however, the address is really 195.168.0.1 then something is
wrong here.
Now I noticed that on the Ethernet adaper: Homne network, that DHCP is not
enabled. Is this because the addresses have been set statically? Or can I
enable this some way to have it automatically assign the correct address?

No, that is correct. The LAN adapter of the Internet Connection
Sharing computer should always assume the fixed address
192.168.0.1 and does not use DHCP. Instead there is a DHCP
server on the Internet Connection Sharing computer, but that's
something different.
Now a real clue may lay with the fact that I.E. closes when I try to open a
couple of websites from the Favorites menu? Most of them work ok, but a
couple just close I.E.

That points to some adware or spyware, perhaps posing as an
add-in. Can you install an alternative browser for a test, like
Firefox? Perhaps the problems are only in the browser.

Can you ping an Internet server from the laptop? You can open a
command line window on the laptop and type:

ping www.cnn.com
or
ping www.microsoft.com

and check whether you get a response. If you do, maybe only the
browser has a problem. If you don't, then the entire connection
does not work.
Where do I go now... besides to Hell?

Sorry for the slow progress. I can only state that there is a
high likelihood that the problem and its solution is actually
described in http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm . You could check the
browser problem checkbox and see what you get. Unfortunately
there are quite a few possible causes for the symptoms you see.

Do you have access to another computer that you can introduce to
your LAN and use for a short test?

And please double-check that Internet Connection Sharing is
actually enabled on the desktop in the properties of the
Internet connection, Advanced, the first check box.

Hans-Georg
 
G

Guest

Hans-Georg,
Here one possible cause is to enter wrong information into the
Network Wizard. On the desktop you should say that this computer
has a direct Internet connection. On the laptop you should say
that this computer connects through another computer on the LAN.

That's exactly what I did when I ran the wizard.
Ethernet adapter Home Network:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-D8-E6-8C-1E
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.168.0.1
Have you perhaps retyped this and mistyped? It should be
192.168.0.1 on the LAN adapter of the desktop

Don't know what happened there, but the addresses are set manually, as
follows:
Desktop 192.168.0.1
Notebook 192.168.0.10
Subnet mask on both addresses is 255.255.255.0. I just check again.
That points to some adware or spyware, perhaps posing as an
add-in. Can you install an alternative browser for a test, like
Firefox? Perhaps the problems are only in the browser.

Yes I have Firefox installed and the same thing happens with either browser/
The website that I am having a problem with is
http://www.boundarywatersradio.com
Perhaps you would like to check it from your computer. Stange that I can
connect to this web site using Windows Explorer and selecting 'Favorites'.
Can you ping an Internet server from the laptop? You can open a
command line window on the laptop and type:

ping www.cnn.com
or
ping www.microsoft.com

and check whether you get a response. If you do, maybe only the
browser has a problem. If you don't, then the entire connection
does not work.

I can ping both of the above sites from the desktop and get a reply.
I can't ping either from the notebook and get no reply.
Do you have access to another computer that you can introduce to
your LAN and use for a short test?

I don't have, wish that I did.
And please double-check that Internet Connection Sharing is
actually enabled on the desktop in the properties of the
Internet connection, Advanced, the first check box.

Double checked ICS and yes the first box is checked.

Now I have reset the winsock on the desktop and everything
seems to run OK on this machine.

When I attempt to do a 'netsh winsock reset' on the notebook
which runs XP home, I get the following message:
The following command was not found: winsock reset.

Where now? Would it be advantages to reload XP Pro on the desktop.
Unfortunately the disk is an OEM version so I can't do a repair.

Cookie
 
A

Archive >:-) Ed

Sorry. was out of town for a while.

it may be a typo but no. Your numbers arenot right.


Hans-Georg,
I have been hacking and manually (static) set the ip address on the notebook
to 192.168.0.10, subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, and default gateway to
192.169.0.1.

it needs to be 192.168 / NOT 192.169

My setup here.

Tower (dials out to make internet connection.)
ip. 192.168.0.1 (made default by windows._
sub 255.255.255.0
(rightclick properties on connection.)
tcpip
netbios
IPX/SPX/netbios

tower 2 (your notebook.)
ip 192.168.0.10
sub 255.255.255.0 (pops in automatic)
default gateway 192.168.0.1
DNS 192.168.0.1
(rightclick properties on connection.)
tcpip
netbios
IPX/SPX/netbios

IF your running a firewall software like zonealarm or norton internet
security. (if you have internet security i'd uninstall that as well.
Nothing but trouble here.) be sure the windows firewall is turned OFF
on the laptop.

On my tower i had to turn off all 3rd part firewalls and leave that
god forsaken windows firewall ON. there were to many port conflicts
and it shuts out the connection to the others.

Make sure (rightclick my computer tab #2) the workgroup on the
notebook is the same as the tower. (home/workgroup/etc.)

also as a side effort. try uninstalling the TCPIP. Do a reboot and
reinstall it in the network properties. have found it sometimes gets
corrupted and need reset.)

the router (if your useing DSL or Cable) saves some problems because
it runs the ip# 192.168.0.1. The other 2 machines can get a ip from
it's DHCP (which i ran into the same problem and had to go static with
it too.) But this allows you to use a 3rd party firewall on both
machines. where with your current configuration the 3rd party will
block the notebook's ability to connect.
 
H

Hans-Georg Michna

Don't know what happened there, but the addresses are set manually, as
follows:
Desktop 192.168.0.1
Notebook 192.168.0.10
Subnet mask on both addresses is 255.255.255.0. I just check again.

Cookie,

actually the desktop IP address cannot be set manually when ICS
is enabled. It should be unalterably fixed to that address, but
the address is correct.

the Notebook should ideally be set to automatic, and it should
obtain its IP address within the 192.168.0.x range from the
desktop, which acts as a DHCP server. But we had that before,
and it didn't work. I suspect that there is one cause for the
different problems.
I don't have, wish that I did.

I guess you have to borrow one or invite a friend, because
otherwise you can never be sure where the problem lies.

For the moment I suppose the cause is in the notebook.
When I attempt to do a 'netsh winsock reset' on the notebook
which runs XP home, I get the following message:
The following command was not found: winsock reset.

Where now? Would it be advantages to reload XP Pro on the desktop.
Unfortunately the disk is an OEM version so I can't do a repair.

No, I don't see any indication that the cause is in the desktop.

If you cannot run netsh winsock reset on the notebook, the most
likely cause is that Service Pack 2 is not installed there. I
recommend to install it. Of course there is always a risk that
that causes another problem, but chances are that it is the best
next step.

Apart from that, Archive >:) Ed found an error in the standard
gateway address. On the notebook that should be 192.168.0.1, the
LAN address of the Internet gateway computer, the desktop.

Hans-Georg
 
A

Archive >:-) Ed

Cookie,

actually the desktop IP address cannot be set manually when ICS
is enabled. It should be unalterably fixed to that address, but
the address is correct.

the Notebook should ideally be set to automatic, and it should
obtain its IP address within the 192.168.0.x range from the
desktop, which acts as a DHCP server. But we had that before,
and it didn't work. I suspect that there is one cause for the
different problems.



I guess you have to borrow one or invite a friend, because
otherwise you can never be sure where the problem lies.

For the moment I suppose the cause is in the notebook.


No, I don't see any indication that the cause is in the desktop.

If you cannot run netsh winsock reset on the notebook, the most
likely cause is that Service Pack 2 is not installed there. I
recommend to install it. Of course there is always a risk that
that causes another problem, but chances are that it is the best
next step.

Apart from that, Archive >:) Ed found an error in the standard
gateway address. On the notebook that should be 192.168.0.1, the
LAN address of the Internet gateway computer, the desktop.

Hans-Georg

I'd hold off on putting SP2 in till you get it running. (if they're
newer PCs most likely it's there already which is probably a problem
all on it's own.) run all regular updates that your comfortable with
just skip the SP2 till later.
 
G

Guest

Hans-Georg... Lets start with a clean sheet.

Previous to this memo, the Notebook had XP Home with SP1 and all the
updates. Today I have downloaded and installed SP2 on the Notebook and
gotten the latest updates. It does run netsh winsock reset now.

After installing SP2 on the Notebook, I set TCP/IP properties to 'Obtain an
IP address automatically' on the Desktop and then reran the wizard. I didn't
change anything there. Now this is what ipconfig/all looks like on the
Desktop:


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CURTIS

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.


Ethernet adapter Home Network:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-D8-E6-8C-1E

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :


Ethernet adapter Internet Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.mn.comcast.net.

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Motorola SURFboard SB5100 USB
Cable Modem

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-9F-49-3D-5B

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.187.105

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.252.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 66.41.184.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.77.10

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.77.130

68.87.72.130

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, April 28, 2006 1:21:47 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 01, 2006 7:19:45 PM


After running the wizard on the Desktop, I reran the wizard on the Notebook
with the TCP/IP properties set to 'Obtain an IP address automatically'.
Then this is what ipconfig/all on the notebook looked like.

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Notebook

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Home Network:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-7B-8D-52-15

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.175.54

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :


The two machines wouldn't talk to each other.

Obviously the notebook still is not getting a DHCP address from the Desktop.
Also, at this point in time, the Notebook showed 'Limited or No
Connectivity'.

When I manually set the TCP/IP address on the Notebook to 192.168.0.10 -
subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, the two machines again would talk to each other
and Mapped Network Drives work just fine along with my Network Places.
However, still no internet connection from the Notebook.... understand that
there won't be until the Notebook gets the correct DHCP address from the
Desktop.

Now in my hacking around I manually scanned the Desktop with AVG just to
make sure that there was nothing there. To my surprise I found this:

Shell32.dll Change c:\Windows\System32\shell32.dll
hosts Change c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

Now my question is why do these two files show "Change" when all the rest of
them show "OK"?

Is this because a virus or trojan horse got in there and changed something
or is it because these two items have been update by windows update? What
you think?

What influence would these two files have on the networtk, DHCP or system
operation if they were corrupted?

COC (Confused Ole Cookie)
 
A

Archive >:-) Ed

snip<

When I manually set the TCP/IP address on the Notebook to 192.168.0.10 -
subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, the two machines again would talk to each other
and Mapped Network Drives work just fine along with my Network Places.
However, still no internet connection from the Notebook.... understand that
there won't be until the Notebook gets the correct DHCP address from the
Desktop.


When you put #s in manually your overriding the DHCP
 

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