XP Home / chkdsk questions...


R

RJK

Now and again, Norton Disk Doctor and / or XP Home's chkdsk.exe detects
something wrong with 0C FAT32x on my c: boot drive. This is after having
gone through the hideously manual procedure, in XP Home ed., of "sheduling"
a chkdsk.exe for each logical drive at "next startup." And now and again
XP's chkdsk detects something wrong with one or two, or more, drives on my
master and/or slave hd's.

Getting more and more annoyed about this over the past few months, I
downloaded Maxtor's Powermax.exe and ran it's "thorough" scan, on both hd's,
which marked out 1024 bytes as "bad" on drive h: and 160 kilobytes as "bad"
on drive i: Drive h: has nothing on it except a "Recycled" folder and a
"System Volume Information" folder and both are "faded" - flagged system
and/or hidden I s'pose. Drive i: is my main data / programs(as supplied
on cd) drive, and my OE "message store" is also on it - ( I wondered if XP's
OE / dbx's are mashing the fat on this drive ! ). I've pasted in a "dir"
piped to a txt file, and a chkdsk for drives h: and i: at the bottom of this
post, in case they're of use. ...was going to paste a dir /s for drive i:
but, it was massive and perhaps would reveal too much ! :)

Now, in the past, I'd run Norton Diskdoctor's "thorough" surface scan on all
drives, and as I said, now and again, it would find something wrong with one
or more drives on both hd's, more often with my boot drive c:

I'm beginning to suspect that these Maxtor drives are CRAP, and I'm getting
tempted to throw them out and replace them with Seagate. ...btw, both hd's
are in the bottom of a Lian Li case with two fans blowing on'em.

Any thoughts on my fats appreciated :)

regards, Richard

These are my hard disk drives:-

Description Disk drive (...slave hd - 5 logical drives)
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Model Maxtor 6Y080L0
Bytes/Sector 512
Media Loaded Yes
Media Type Fixed hard disk
Partitions 5
SCSI Bus 0
SCSI Logical Unit 0
SCSI Port 0
SCSI Target ID 1
Sectors/Track 63
Size 76.33 GB (81,956,689,920 bytes)
Total Cylinders 9,964
Total Sectors 160,071,660
Total Tracks 2,540,820
Tracks/Cylinder 255
Partition Disk #1, Partition #0
Partition Size 1.95 GB (2,097,414,144 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 8,257,536 bytes
Partition Disk #1, Partition #1
Partition Size 1.95 GB (2,097,414,144 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 2,105,703,936 bytes
Partition Disk #1, Partition #2
Partition Size 32.01 GB (34,373,412,864 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 4,203,150,336 bytes
Partition Disk #1, Partition #3
Partition Size 32.01 GB (34,373,412,864 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 38,576,595,456 bytes
Partition Disk #1, Partition #4
Partition Size 8.39 GB (9,006,649,344 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 72,950,040,576 bytes

Description Disk drive (...master hd - 4 logical drives c: d: e: f:)
Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
Model Maxtor 6Y080L0
Bytes/Sector 512
Media Loaded Yes
Media Type Fixed hard disk
Partitions 4
SCSI Bus 0
SCSI Logical Unit 0
SCSI Port 0
SCSI Target ID 0
Sectors/Track 63
Size 76.33 GB (81,956,689,920 bytes)
Total Cylinders 9,964
Total Sectors 160,071,660
Total Tracks 2,540,820
Tracks/Cylinder 255
Partition Disk #0, Partition #0
Partition Size 10.00 GB (10,742,183,424 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 32,256 bytes
Partition Disk #0, Partition #1
Partition Size 10.00 GB (10,742,183,424 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 10,742,247,936 bytes
Partition Disk #0, Partition #2
Partition Size 10.00 GB (10,742,183,424 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 21,484,463,616 bytes
Partition Disk #0, Partition #3
Partition Size 46.31 GB (49,730,010,624 bytes)
Partition Starting Offset 32,226,679,296 bytes

####
Drive A:
Description 3 1/2 Inch Floppy Drive

Drive C:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System FAT32
Size 9.99 GB (10,731,675,648 bytes)
Free Space 2.64 GB (2,839,937,024 bytes)
Volume Name 26012004
Volume Serial Number 0D1D16D6

Drive D:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System FAT32
Size 9.99 GB (10,731,675,648 bytes)
Free Space 9.98 GB (10,716,061,696 bytes)
Volume Name D
Volume Serial Number 284016D9

Drive E:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System FAT32
Size 9.99 GB (10,731,675,648 bytes)
Free Space 9.99 GB (10,730,733,568 bytes)
Volume Name E
Volume Serial Number 117216DD

Drive F:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System FAT32
Size 46.30 GB (49,717,837,824 bytes)
Free Space 46.26 GB (49,675,632,640 bytes)
Volume Name F
Volume Serial Number 025316EC

Drive G: ( 1st drive on 2nd hd and my 1gb pagefile.sys is on this drive )
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System FAT32
Size 1.94 GB (2,081,137,664 bytes)
Free Space 832.84 MB (873,300,992 bytes)
Volume Name H2P1
Volume Serial Number BEE29673

Drive H:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System FAT32
Size 1.94 GB (2,081,137,664 bytes)
Free Space 1.94 GB (2,080,448,512 bytes)
Volume Name H2P2
Volume Serial Number FE837354

Drive I:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System FAT32
Size 32.00 GB (34,364,981,248 bytes)
Free Space 27.39 GB (29,406,396,416 bytes)
Volume Name H2P3_PROGS
Volume Serial Number 3E245033

Drive J:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System FAT32
Size 32.00 GB (34,364,981,248 bytes)
Free Space 19.93 GB (21,404,483,584 bytes)
Volume Name H2P4
Volume Serial Number 7DC52D0A

Drive K:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System FAT32
Size 8.38 GB (8,997,838,848 bytes)
Free Space 8.38 GB (8,996,864,000 bytes)
Volume Name H2P5
Volume Serial Number BD6609EF

Drive X:
Description CD-ROM Disc

Drive Y:
Description CD-ROM Disc

####
chkdsk h: > i:\chkdsk_h.txt
The type of the file system is FAT32.
Volume H2P2 created 10/30/2003 9:41 AM
Volume Serial Number is FE83-7354
Windows is verifying files and folders...
File and folder verification is complete.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.

2,081,137,664 bytes total disk space.
10,240 bytes in 10 hidden files.
11,264 bytes in 11 folders.
665,600 bytes in 19 files.
1,024 bytes in bad sectors.
2,080,448,512 bytes available on disk.

1,024 bytes in each allocation unit.
2,032,361 total allocation units on disk.
2,031,688 allocation units available on disk.

####
chkdsk i: > i:\chkdsk_i.txt
The type of the file system is FAT32.
Volume H2P3_PROGS created 10/30/2003 10:50 AM
Volume Serial Number is 3E24-5033
Windows is verifying files and folders...
File and folder verification is complete.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
33,559,552 KB total disk space.
672 KB in 21 hidden files.
39,552 KB in 1,235 folders.
4,803,264 KB in 18,351 files.
160 KB in bad sectors.
28,715,872 KB are available.

32,768 bytes in each allocation unit.
1,048,736 total allocation units on disk.
897,371 allocation units available on disk.
 
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D

David H. Lipman

All drives fail -- eventually. Some sooner than others. I have seen ALL the major
manufactures drives fail (SeaGate, Western Digital, Maxtor Quantum, IBM, Fujisu, Hitachi,
etc...) and that's; MFM, RLL, ESDI, IDE and SCSI.

There are factors that can cause a hard disk to fail such as bad power supplies -- surges,
fluctuations and out of spec voltages.

Dave





| Now and again, Norton Disk Doctor and / or XP Home's chkdsk.exe detects
| something wrong with 0C FAT32x on my c: boot drive. This is after having
| gone through the hideously manual procedure, in XP Home ed., of "sheduling"
| a chkdsk.exe for each logical drive at "next startup." And now and again
| XP's chkdsk detects something wrong with one or two, or more, drives on my
| master and/or slave hd's.
|
| Getting more and more annoyed about this over the past few months, I
| downloaded Maxtor's Powermax.exe and ran it's "thorough" scan, on both hd's,
| which marked out 1024 bytes as "bad" on drive h: and 160 kilobytes as "bad"
| on drive i: Drive h: has nothing on it except a "Recycled" folder and a
| "System Volume Information" folder and both are "faded" - flagged system
| and/or hidden I s'pose. Drive i: is my main data / programs(as supplied
| on cd) drive, and my OE "message store" is also on it - ( I wondered if XP's
| OE / dbx's are mashing the fat on this drive ! ). I've pasted in a "dir"
| piped to a txt file, and a chkdsk for drives h: and i: at the bottom of this
| post, in case they're of use. ...was going to paste a dir /s for drive i:
| but, it was massive and perhaps would reveal too much ! :)
|
| Now, in the past, I'd run Norton Diskdoctor's "thorough" surface scan on all
| drives, and as I said, now and again, it would find something wrong with one
| or more drives on both hd's, more often with my boot drive c:
|
| I'm beginning to suspect that these Maxtor drives are CRAP, and I'm getting
| tempted to throw them out and replace them with Seagate. ...btw, both hd's
| are in the bottom of a Lian Li case with two fans blowing on'em.
|
| Any thoughts on my fats appreciated :)
|
| regards, Richard
|
| These are my hard disk drives:-
|
| Description Disk drive (...slave hd - 5 logical drives)
| Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
| Model Maxtor 6Y080L0
| Bytes/Sector 512
| Media Loaded Yes
| Media Type Fixed hard disk
| Partitions 5
| SCSI Bus 0
| SCSI Logical Unit 0
| SCSI Port 0
| SCSI Target ID 1
| Sectors/Track 63
| Size 76.33 GB (81,956,689,920 bytes)
| Total Cylinders 9,964
| Total Sectors 160,071,660
| Total Tracks 2,540,820
| Tracks/Cylinder 255
| Partition Disk #1, Partition #0
| Partition Size 1.95 GB (2,097,414,144 bytes)
| Partition Starting Offset 8,257,536 bytes
| Partition Disk #1, Partition #1
| Partition Size 1.95 GB (2,097,414,144 bytes)
| Partition Starting Offset 2,105,703,936 bytes
| Partition Disk #1, Partition #2
| Partition Size 32.01 GB (34,373,412,864 bytes)
| Partition Starting Offset 4,203,150,336 bytes
| Partition Disk #1, Partition #3
| Partition Size 32.01 GB (34,373,412,864 bytes)
| Partition Starting Offset 38,576,595,456 bytes
| Partition Disk #1, Partition #4
| Partition Size 8.39 GB (9,006,649,344 bytes)
| Partition Starting Offset 72,950,040,576 bytes
|
| Description Disk drive (...master hd - 4 logical drives c: d: e: f:)
| Manufacturer (Standard disk drives)
| Model Maxtor 6Y080L0
| Bytes/Sector 512
| Media Loaded Yes
| Media Type Fixed hard disk
| Partitions 4
| SCSI Bus 0
| SCSI Logical Unit 0
| SCSI Port 0
| SCSI Target ID 0
| Sectors/Track 63
| Size 76.33 GB (81,956,689,920 bytes)
| Total Cylinders 9,964
| Total Sectors 160,071,660
| Total Tracks 2,540,820
| Tracks/Cylinder 255
| Partition Disk #0, Partition #0
| Partition Size 10.00 GB (10,742,183,424 bytes)
| Partition Starting Offset 32,256 bytes
| Partition Disk #0, Partition #1
| Partition Size 10.00 GB (10,742,183,424 bytes)
| Partition Starting Offset 10,742,247,936 bytes
| Partition Disk #0, Partition #2
| Partition Size 10.00 GB (10,742,183,424 bytes)
| Partition Starting Offset 21,484,463,616 bytes
| Partition Disk #0, Partition #3
| Partition Size 46.31 GB (49,730,010,624 bytes)
| Partition Starting Offset 32,226,679,296 bytes
|
| ####
| Drive A:
| Description 3 1/2 Inch Floppy Drive
|
| Drive C:
| Description Local Fixed Disk
| Compressed No
| File System FAT32
| Size 9.99 GB (10,731,675,648 bytes)
| Free Space 2.64 GB (2,839,937,024 bytes)
| Volume Name 26012004
| Volume Serial Number 0D1D16D6
|
| Drive D:
| Description Local Fixed Disk
| Compressed No
| File System FAT32
| Size 9.99 GB (10,731,675,648 bytes)
| Free Space 9.98 GB (10,716,061,696 bytes)
| Volume Name D
| Volume Serial Number 284016D9
|
| Drive E:
| Description Local Fixed Disk
| Compressed No
| File System FAT32
| Size 9.99 GB (10,731,675,648 bytes)
| Free Space 9.99 GB (10,730,733,568 bytes)
| Volume Name E
| Volume Serial Number 117216DD
|
| Drive F:
| Description Local Fixed Disk
| Compressed No
| File System FAT32
| Size 46.30 GB (49,717,837,824 bytes)
| Free Space 46.26 GB (49,675,632,640 bytes)
| Volume Name F
| Volume Serial Number 025316EC
|
| Drive G: ( 1st drive on 2nd hd and my 1gb pagefile.sys is on this drive )
| Description Local Fixed Disk
| Compressed No
| File System FAT32
| Size 1.94 GB (2,081,137,664 bytes)
| Free Space 832.84 MB (873,300,992 bytes)
| Volume Name H2P1
| Volume Serial Number BEE29673
|
| Drive H:
| Description Local Fixed Disk
| Compressed No
| File System FAT32
| Size 1.94 GB (2,081,137,664 bytes)
| Free Space 1.94 GB (2,080,448,512 bytes)
| Volume Name H2P2
| Volume Serial Number FE837354
|
| Drive I:
| Description Local Fixed Disk
| Compressed No
| File System FAT32
| Size 32.00 GB (34,364,981,248 bytes)
| Free Space 27.39 GB (29,406,396,416 bytes)
| Volume Name H2P3_PROGS
| Volume Serial Number 3E245033
|
| Drive J:
| Description Local Fixed Disk
| Compressed No
| File System FAT32
| Size 32.00 GB (34,364,981,248 bytes)
| Free Space 19.93 GB (21,404,483,584 bytes)
| Volume Name H2P4
| Volume Serial Number 7DC52D0A
|
| Drive K:
| Description Local Fixed Disk
| Compressed No
| File System FAT32
| Size 8.38 GB (8,997,838,848 bytes)
| Free Space 8.38 GB (8,996,864,000 bytes)
| Volume Name H2P5
| Volume Serial Number BD6609EF
|
| Drive X:
| Description CD-ROM Disc
|
| Drive Y:
| Description CD-ROM Disc
|
| ####
| chkdsk h: > i:\chkdsk_h.txt
| The type of the file system is FAT32.
| Volume H2P2 created 10/30/2003 9:41 AM
| Volume Serial Number is FE83-7354
| Windows is verifying files and folders...
| File and folder verification is complete.
| Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
|
| 2,081,137,664 bytes total disk space.
| 10,240 bytes in 10 hidden files.
| 11,264 bytes in 11 folders.
| 665,600 bytes in 19 files.
| 1,024 bytes in bad sectors.
| 2,080,448,512 bytes available on disk.
|
| 1,024 bytes in each allocation unit.
| 2,032,361 total allocation units on disk.
| 2,031,688 allocation units available on disk.
|
| ####
| chkdsk i: > i:\chkdsk_i.txt
| The type of the file system is FAT32.
| Volume H2P3_PROGS created 10/30/2003 10:50 AM
| Volume Serial Number is 3E24-5033
| Windows is verifying files and folders...
| File and folder verification is complete.
| Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.
| 33,559,552 KB total disk space.
| 672 KB in 21 hidden files.
| 39,552 KB in 1,235 folders.
| 4,803,264 KB in 18,351 files.
| 160 KB in bad sectors.
| 28,715,872 KB are available.
|
| 32,768 bytes in each allocation unit.
| 1,048,736 total allocation units on disk.
| 897,371 allocation units available on disk.
|
|
 
C

Chips

I have also had drives appear to "fail". When I gave them new high quality
ribbon cables they were fine.

GC
 
R

RJK

Hi Dave

I've seen a few drives fail as well but, from my 2 x 80gb Maxtor 6Y080L0
hd's which are both less than a year old, I would have expected the normal
three to four years flawless service, (that's practically guaranteed with
Seagate, and Western Digital hd's), before they started developing bad
sectors. Incindentally, there seems to be only two independent hd
manufacturers left - Seagate and Western Digital. Fujitsu drives went
through a bad phase, as did IBM and Hitachi ...was it Hitachi that bought
out IBM's hd division ..... ...I lose track .... Quantum hd's used to be
REALLY reliable before Fujitsu took them over. I've probably got that all
wrong!

I suppose it's all to do with the Japs. having their hd's made out in China
and Korea for a pittance, and not worrying too much about having good brand
names destroyed by shit quality !

regards, Richard
 
R

RJK

Thanx GC ...that is worth thinking about ...it's been at the back of my mind
for some time that I should give my 80 core ribbons a careful
resistance/connection-interference test, ...I may even take the ENORMOUS
amount of time required to measure individual male to female pin resistances
but, I'd have to be really bored, and could probably settle for my first
instinct which tells me possibly both of my Maxtor hd's are SHITE !

regards, Richard
 
A

Alex Nichol

RJK said:
I'd have to be really bored, and could probably settle for my first
instinct which tells me possibly both of my Maxtor hd's are SHITE !

get the free Everest Home edition from
http://www.lavalys.com/index.php?page=product&view=1
which is an excellent general System Info tool,

Consult its reports on the Storage - SMART page (you *may* need to
enable SMART reporting in BIOS first). That tells you a great deal
about what the drive itself thinks of its performance and is usually
good advance warning of trouble
 
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