XP deletes Vista system restore points ??

[Guest]

I have a dual boot system with XP installed on C drive and Vista beta 2
installed on D drive. I have XP system restore active for drive C and Vista
beta 2 system restore active on drive D. When using Vista , system restore
points are functional and I have done a successful system restore. The
problem is after I boot my XP system the next time I boot Vista, the Vista
restore points are gone ?? Multiple boots of just Vista retains the Vista
system restore points just fine. Its only after I boot XP, on the next Vista
boot the Vista restore points disappear . Anyone else have this problem ?

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

This is known and expected.

As an aside, I only let System Restore monitor the system drive of its own
OS and not the volume of the other OS in multiboot scenarios.

 

[Guest]

That is exactly what I am doing Colin .. XP restore monitors only the C drive
and Vista monitors only the D drive. Should I still expect XP to wipe out
Vista's restore points ? Is there any circumvention to this issue ?

 

[Conor]

I have a dual boot system with XP installed on C drive and Vista beta 2
installed on D drive. I have XP system restore active for drive C and Vista
beta 2 system restore active on drive D. When using Vista , system restore
points are functional and I have done a successful system restore. The
problem is after I boot my XP system the next time I boot Vista, the Vista
restore points are gone ?? Multiple boots of just Vista retains the Vista
system restore points just fine. Its only after I boot XP, on the next Vista
boot the Vista restore points disappear . Anyone else have this problem ?

You need to disable system restore for the D drive in Windows XP and
also disable it for the C drive in Vista.

 

[Guest]

If you read my original post , you will see I am doing exactly that

 

[PaulM]

Same problem here.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

No, in a multiboot system you will lose the Vista restore points when you
boot the other OS.

 

[PaulM]

And why would that happen??? If I boot XP 32 and then XP 64 the restore
points for them are fine. Why would Vista lose them?

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

It is a known problem. System Restore has been redesigned for Vista and its
restore points are not detected as valid by XP and are therefore deleted.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

System Restore in XP does not recognize the Vista SR points as valid and
deletes them. System Restore in Vista has been redesigned.

 

[PaulM]

But XP is not set to monitor the Vista drive and Vista is not set to monitor
the XP drive, so it should not matter.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

It happens at boot up. It is not a function of monitoring anything.

 

[Norman Diamond]

You mean you installed two Windows systems into separate partitions, and you
expected each Windows system to behave in its own partition instead of
hunting each other down and destroying each other? You don't have much
experience with Windows, eh?

Up to a point, multibooting Windows systems is possible. That point is not
a restore point.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Correct. When Vista goes final it gets its own box.

 

[Jane C]

Taken from the release notes:

a.. If you boot a Windows Vista computer into a different operating system
(including Windows XP) while a disk containing backups is connected, the
backups will be lost. To avoid this, ensure that no backup disks are
connected before you boot into a different operating system.


a.. This note applies to Windows Vista.

CompletePC Backup cannot back up system or boot volumes that are smaller
than 1 GB. You can use Disk Management or the diskpart command to extend a
partition that is smaller than 1 GB so that it can be backed up.


a.. This note applies to Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows Vista
Enterprise, and Windows Vista Ultimate.

Backups will fail if you have any hidden volumes on the system. Before
attempting to back up any volumes, ensure that you unhide hidden volumes
with the diskpart command.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/d/8/7d8965b9-4a7c-4510-9987-ffa57c9ad2fe/relnotes.htm

 

[Jane C]

Oops....this is the bit I meant to copy :

Due to changes in the underlying Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS)
infrastructure, shadow copies and associated restore points are deleted on
computers with dual-boot configurations where one boot partition is Windows
Vista or Windows Server "Longhorn" and the other is a previous version of
the Windows operating system.

If you boot the system into the previous version of the Windows operating
system and then back into the Windows Vista or Windows Server "Longhorn"
operating system, System Restore will not work until a new restore point is
created. Shadow copies of files (previous versions) will also be affected.

 

[Guest]

Can a CompletePC Backup be restored? I performed one which forced me to
choose both my C partition and my Vista partition but when I press F8 at
startup and go to the Recovery Console, it is just the old XP recovery
console and doesn't give me a choice of Windows System Image Backup as is
mentioned in the documentation.

 

[Guest]

Can a CompletePC Backup be restored? I performed one which forced me to
choose both my C partition and my Vista partition but when I press F8 at
startup and go to the Recovery Console, it is just the old XP recovery
console and doesn't give me a choice of Windows System Image Backup as is
mentioned in the documentation.

 

[Guest]

what i do is that i use just xp to create restore points both x:xp and
y:vista ...
if i have problems with vista i can restore it with xp ...
well i didn"t really try to restore vista this way, but that's what i do ...
as each vista restore points are deleted by xp ... i do'nt see another
solution ...
what i wonder is "does the vista registry will be backed up too ??"
i should try to see ...

i think "sysytem protection" is not powerfull enough still ...
we should be able to choose excatly what files in which folders we want
always being protected and able to be restored if so ...

ex: i which to create a "restore point" with exacly all the files in
"c:windows/system32" in "c:windows" etc. iso if i back up, the registry file
will be too (for example)

 

[Guest]

what i do is that i use just xp to create restore points both x:xp and
y:vista ...
if i have problems with vista i can restore it with xp ...
well i didn"t really try to restore vista this way, but that's what i do ...
as each vista restore points are deleted by xp ... i do'nt see another
solution ...
what i wonder is "does the vista registry will be backed up too ??"
i should try to see ...

i think "sysytem protection" is not powerfull enough still ...
we should be able to choose excatly what files in which folders we want
always being protected and able to be restored if so ...

ex: i which to create a "restore point" with exacly all the files in
"c:windows/system32" in "c:windows" etc. iso if i back up, the registry file
will be too (for example)