WTD: Reg file for file associations

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ms

There was a post recently for a reg file on the Blackviper website that could be
used in W98 to "easily" set file associations.

At the time, I searched that site, some good data but not that reg file. I now
can't find that post in the "file association" thread.

Does anyone have a URL for this reg file?

Mike Sa
 
B

Bob Adkins

There was a post recently for a reg file on the Blackviper website that could be
used in W98 to "easily" set file associations.

At the time, I searched that site, some good data but not that reg file. I now
can't find that post in the "file association" thread.

Does anyone have a URL for this reg file?
Click to expand...

Mike,

Try:

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm


http://www.dougknox.com/xp/file_assoc.htm

http://www.dougknox.com/index.html

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_fileassoc.txt

Good luck

-- Bob
 
M

Mandy Abbett

bobby, slow down, concentrate, put down the pipe and re-read the
original post. you will see he asked about windows 98, *not xp. hth.
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Hmmmmmm, so 98 handles file extensions differently to XP ?

HTH
 
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dadiOH

ms said:
There was a post recently for a reg file on the Blackviper website
that could be used in W98 to "easily" set file associations.

At the time, I searched that site, some good data but not that reg
file. I now can't find that post in the "file association" thread.

Does anyone have a URL for this reg file?

Mike Sa
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I can't see that it would do you any good unless they happened to have
one for a particular type in which you are interested. Given the number
of file types that isn't likely. What is it you want to do?

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dadiOH

dadiOH said:
I can't see that it would do you any good unless they happened to have
one for a particular type in which you are interested. Given the
number of file types that isn't likely. What is it you want to do?
Click to expand...

Besides, Windows already has a veeeery easy way to set file
associations...shift + right click a file of the type for which you want
to change association, open with, tick always open with, browse to the
exe you want to use, open, OK.

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M

ms

dadiOH said:
Besides, Windows already has a veeeery easy way to set file
associations...shift + right click a file of the type for which you want
to change association, open with, tick always open with, browse to the
exe you want to use, open, OK.

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The normal ways, including Explorer/File Types, don't work for my registry. They
used to, but not anymore. As a workaround, I put shortcuts in the Send To menu,
but would like to really fix the problem.

Mike Sa
 
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dadiOH

ms said:
The normal ways, including Explorer/File Types, don't work for my
registry. They used to, but not anymore. As a workaround, I put
shortcuts in the Send To menu, but would like to really fix the
problem.
Click to expand...

And what happens if you do the shift + right click routine? That is,
what happens after clicking a file of the type to which you assigned a
new app?

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M

ms

dadiOH said:
And what happens if you do the shift + right click routine? That is,
what happens after clicking a file of the type to which you assigned a
new app?
Click to expand...

OK, here is an update:
I picked an easy example, a Word type document, *.doc.
I went to Explorer/File Types, changed the open app from Word Viewer 97 back to
Wordpad, both are located in C: Program Files/Accessories.
So when I was done, a Word document is to open with Wordpad, that should be as
standard as it gets.

I went to *.doc file. Shift/Right click- I see 2- Open With, and 1 Open
selection. I selected Open, and here is what I see:
----
Word Viewer 97
Wordview cannot open this document
Path statement (it looks correct)
Document name or path is not valid
----

Before I made the change, I got this screen, after the change it still happens. I
then went to Send To wordview, and of course it opens fine. So the change did not
take effect, and even the existing app (wordviewer 97) does not work.

Advice?

BTW, this is why I no longer install, never had problems until installs messed
things up.

Thanks,

Mike Sa
 
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dadiOH

ms said:
dadiOH wrote:

OK, here is an update:
I picked an easy example, a Word type document, *.doc.
I went to Explorer/File Types, changed the open app from Word Viewer
97 back to Wordpad, both are located in C: Program Files/Accessories.
So when I was done, a Word document is to open with Wordpad, that should be as
standard as it gets.
Click to expand...

What was the command line you used?
_________________
I went to *.doc file. Shift/Right click- I see 2- Open With, and 1
Open selection. I selected Open, and here is what I see:
Click to expand...

Why in the world did you shift/right click it? That has nothing to do
with file associations, it gives you a context menu...a shell thingy.

What you should have done is just left click it. Like you do to open
any other file.
___________________
Advice?
Click to expand...

I suggest you stay away from File Types and change your association(s)
as I previously explained using shift+right click > open with
_____________________
BTW, this is why I no longer install, never had problems until
installs messed things up.
Click to expand...

The installs aren't at fault...

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M

ms

dadiOH said:
should be as standard as it gets.


What was the command line you used?
Click to expand...

"C:\Program Files\Accessories\Wordpad.exe"

It sure looks normal to me.
Why in the world did you shift/right click it? That has nothing to do
with file associations, it gives you a context menu...a shell thingy.
Click to expand...
I know, this was from your earlier post
What you should have done is just left click it. Like you do to open
any other file.
Click to expand...
That was the normal first step at the start of the problem. Left click always
gives the same results and same message.
I suggest you stay away from File Types and change your association(s)
as I previously explained using shift+right click > open with
Click to expand...

We are in a closed loop. Right click/ Open gives the error message as I explained
previously. Is there a next step to get past this?
The installs aren't at fault...
Click to expand...
Yes, they were. The next boot after an uninstall, my file associations were wrong.
This has happened several times. This may not have happened to you, it did happen
to me several times.
I don't have your computer knowledge, but I know what I see.

Mike Sa
 
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dadiOH

ms said:
"C:\Program Files\Accessories\Wordpad.exe"

It sure looks normal to me.
Click to expand...

Isn't, there is no action switch.


Some assumptions:
1. You selected "open" as the action for *.doc
2. You edited "open"
The command line then should be...
"C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE " "%1"
3. You set "open" as the default.
Left clicking a doc file will then open the file with Wordpad.

Again, I urge you *NOT* to try to change file type associations via
"Settings|File types" but to use the "Shift+right click | Open with" as
explained previously.
__________________
Yes, they were. The next boot after an uninstall, my file
associations were wrong. This has happened several times. This may
not have happened to you, it did happen to me several times.
I don't have your computer knowledge, but I know what I see.
Click to expand...

It wasn't the install that messed you up, it was the *uninstall*. It
messed you up because you didn't go back to square one association-wise
*before* uninstalling. Most programs that grab extensions have an
option somewhere to select extensions grabbed and/or a way to ungrab
them.

The association was wrong because you had installed a program to which
you (or the program) assigned a file type. When you uninstalled it the
file type was orphaned - nothing to open it.

Normally, that is no problem because most programs create their own
unique file type(s). The problem arises when you have multiple programs
that operate on one file type....txt, doc, htm, rtf, jpg, bmp, etc.
Multiple programs can *use* a given file type but only one can be the
*default" program...the one that opens a file when you click on it.

If the program you installed grabbed a common extension automatically
and had no "ungrab" option then a soupcon of thought on your part should
have told you that if you uninstall the program then the common file
type would be left dangling with nothing to open it. Solution?
Re-associate it via Shift + right click|Open with...

Now, one could say that the program's uninstall should have
re-associated the file type(s). That's true. But iron rusts...life
isn't fair...and there are a lot of programs written by people who have
little knowledge of what they do. The fact of the matter is that many
(most?) programs leave residual junk when uninstalled. And it makes no
difference whether it is uninstalled with the program's uninstall or via
"Control Panel|Add/remove programs" because all the latter does is use
the former.

The way to get a nice, clean uninstall of any program is to monitor
*all* installs with TotalUninstall and to also use it to *uninstall*
monitored programs. When used properly, whatever it has monitored will
be removed/reverted.
http://www.martau.com/

Finally, if you ignore my suggestion to set file type associations via
"shift+right click|open with" and use "Settings|File types" there are
two apps that make the file type editing a bit easier. Both have decent
help files which should be *READ*.

ContextEdit
http://www.ramlende.com/utilities.html

File Association Editor
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/rhaminisys/


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dadiOH
____________________________

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....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 
M

ms

dadiOH said:
Isn't, there is no action switch.


Some assumptions:
1. You selected "open" as the action for *.doc
2. You edited "open"
The command line then should be...
"C:\Program Files\Accessories\WORDPAD.EXE " "%1"
3. You set "open" as the default.
Left clicking a doc file will then open the file with Wordpad.

Again, I urge you *NOT* to try to change file type associations via
"Settings|File types" but to use the "Shift+right click | Open with" as
explained previously.
__________________




It wasn't the install that messed you up, it was the *uninstall*. It
messed you up because you didn't go back to square one association-wise
*before* uninstalling. Most programs that grab extensions have an
option somewhere to select extensions grabbed and/or a way to ungrab
them.

The association was wrong because you had installed a program to which
you (or the program) assigned a file type. When you uninstalled it the
file type was orphaned - nothing to open it.

Normally, that is no problem because most programs create their own
unique file type(s). The problem arises when you have multiple programs
that operate on one file type....txt, doc, htm, rtf, jpg, bmp, etc.
Multiple programs can *use* a given file type but only one can be the
*default" program...the one that opens a file when you click on it.

If the program you installed grabbed a common extension automatically
and had no "ungrab" option then a soupcon of thought on your part should
have told you that if you uninstall the program then the common file
type would be left dangling with nothing to open it. Solution?
Re-associate it via Shift + right click|Open with...

Now, one could say that the program's uninstall should have
re-associated the file type(s). That's true. But iron rusts...life
isn't fair...and there are a lot of programs written by people who have
little knowledge of what they do. The fact of the matter is that many
(most?) programs leave residual junk when uninstalled. And it makes no
difference whether it is uninstalled with the program's uninstall or via
"Control Panel|Add/remove programs" because all the latter does is use
the former.

The way to get a nice, clean uninstall of any program is to monitor
*all* installs with TotalUninstall and to also use it to *uninstall*
monitored programs. When used properly, whatever it has monitored will
be removed/reverted.
http://www.martau.com/

Finally, if you ignore my suggestion to set file type associations via
"shift+right click|open with" and use "Settings|File types" there are
two apps that make the file type editing a bit easier. Both have decent
help files which should be *READ*.

ContextEdit
http://www.ramlende.com/utilities.html

File Association Editor
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/rhaminisys/
Click to expand...

Thanks, very good info. " "%1" may be the key to the solution. As I mentioned in
the other ng, it will take a little while to digest. Will post results back here
later.

Mike Sa
 
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dadiOH

ms said:
As I
mentioned in the other ng, it will take a little while to digest.
Click to expand...

What other group? Only one I have been posting to is acf

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Bjorn Simonsen

ms wrote in said:
" "%1" may be the key to the solution. As I mentioned in
the other ng, it will take a little while to digest. Will post results back here
later.
Click to expand...

Mike, for clarification you might want to read:
An introduction to associations
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~wstudios/Associate/Associations.html>

by the maker of WAssociate <http://www.xs4all.nl/~wstudios/Associate/>
<http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2005/PL2005FILEUTILITIES.php#0817-PW>

PS: please snip

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
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ms

Bjorn said:
Mike, for clarification you might want to read:
An introduction to associations
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~wstudios/Associate/Associations.html>

by the maker of WAssociate <http://www.xs4all.nl/~wstudios/Associate/>
<http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2005/PL2005FILEUTILITIES.php#0817-PW>

PS: please snip

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
Click to expand...

Thanks, Bjorn, good to see you back.

I will have to repair my file associations, not just change them. Is there any
handy info on that in addition to the above?

Mike Sa
 
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ms

dadiOH said:
ms wrote:




What other group? Only one I have been posting to is acf
Click to expand...
The MS W98 general discussion group, you helped me there a few weeks ago....
Surely there's only one dadiOH??

From what you pointed out, now I have to repair my file associations. And avoid
changing in the future. I can see now how this all happened over the past year,
from some *UN*installs. I knew about TUN, but had trouble with it. A task for later.

I will work with the 2 apps you mentioned, and post back.

Mike Sa
 
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dszady

The MS W98 general discussion group, you helped me there a few weeks
ago.... Surely there's only one dadiOH??

From what you pointed out, now I have to repair my file associations. And
avoid
changing in the future. I can see now how this all happened over the past
year, from some *UN*installs. I knew about TUN, but had trouble with it. A
task for later.

I will work with the 2 apps you mentioned, and post back.

Mike Sa
Click to expand...

I found TU to be not a total cure at all. You still have to go into the
registry and root around abit.
That's Omega or Bjorn's territory. But since they have married they are
busy with other things.
 
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dadiOH

dszady said:
I found TU to be not a total cure at all. You still have to go into
the registry and root around abit.
Click to expand...

Only if something was added after monitoring (or if areas were not
selected for monitoring or if some of the monitored areas were not
selected for deletion in TUN "options"). Same is true with the
directory of the program to be uninstalled.

Since many programs make additional registry entries and/or create files
when they are first run, programs should be run and options set up
immediately after installing while TUN is still monitoring changes. Of
course, even doing that, it is still possible that something will be
added later. In those instances, TUN shows one quite clearly what it
can't do so you can do it manually.

In my experience, at least 90% of the uninstalls require no user effort,
no manual cleaning. I do want to point out that - like any program - it
can only perform as well as the user lets it. The user needs to do a
bit of head work to understand what it can do, to select monitored areas
properly and to set the programs options. In my case, I monitor
everything and have all uninstall items ticked in the uninstall options.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

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LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 

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