Writing to DVD-RW using Basic XP software while InCD is installed.

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Guest

I have XP installed, but I use InCD to write data (only word '97 stuff)
to my DVD-RW disks because it's much simpler than the built-in XP (roxio)
software. I've not had a problem for a long time, but now I want to send a
CD-RW with a Word document on it to someone who doesn't use InCD and I want
them to be able to write to the CD and to amend the word document using XP.

I thought the thing to do was simply use the built-in XP DVD-RW wrting
software (which is a basic kind of Roxio). Problem is, it won't do it. The
InCD software seems to interfere, even though I've gone into the drive
properties and checked the "enable CD writing on this drive" which, I
believe, is supposed to enable the Roxio software.

Please don't tell me I have to uninstall the InCD software in order to
do it. Isn't there some simpler way to turn off the InCD and let the basic XP
software do the work?

P.S. I might mention in passing that over the years I've had more
computer problems involving data writing to CDs/DVDs than all my other
problems put together. I hope Vista has a built-in drag-and-drop system that
works as well as the old floppies used to.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Cheers, Don.
 
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shakey

Don said:
I have XP installed, but I use InCD to write data (only word '97
stuff)
to my DVD-RW disks because it's much simpler than the built-in XP (roxio)
software. I've not had a problem for a long time, but now I want to send
a
CD-RW with a Word document on it to someone who doesn't use InCD and I
want
them to be able to write to the CD and to amend the word document using
XP.

I thought the thing to do was simply use the built-in XP DVD-RW wrting
software (which is a basic kind of Roxio). Problem is, it won't do it. The
InCD software seems to interfere, even though I've gone into the drive
properties and checked the "enable CD writing on this drive" which, I
believe, is supposed to enable the Roxio software.

Please don't tell me I have to uninstall the InCD software in order to
do it. Isn't there some simpler way to turn off the InCD and let the basic
XP
software do the work?

P.S. I might mention in passing that over the years I've had more
computer problems involving data writing to CDs/DVDs than all my other
problems put together. I hope Vista has a built-in drag-and-drop system
that
works as well as the old floppies used to.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Cheers, Don.

Couldn't help but reply even thought I have no suggestion for you.
XP cd/dvd/in-cd/nero/roxio is just plain horrible as I find that every time
I switch I have to mess with drive properties, then again when returning. I
see that as the majority of problems in newsgroup but people are stopping
posting it as its so common. I now use Nero for anything I want to do with
removable disks,
GET ON THE BALL M SOFT !
Sympathy
Mel
 
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Shenan Stanley

Don said:
I have XP installed, but I use InCD to write data (only word
'97 stuff) to my DVD-RW disks because it's much simpler than the
built-in XP (roxio) software. I've not had a problem for a long
time, but now I want to send a CD-RW with a Word document on it to
someone who doesn't use InCD and I want them to be able to write to
the CD and to amend the word document using XP.

Windows XP will not natively (nor has it or will it in the future to my
knowledge) write to DVD anything... (+/- R/RW)
(With a minor exception for a particular few DVD-RAM drives.)
I thought the thing to do was simply use the built-in XP DVD-RW
wrting software (which is a basic kind of Roxio). Problem is, it
won't do it. The InCD software seems to interfere, even though I've
gone into the drive properties and checked the "enable CD writing
on this drive" which, I believe, is supposed to enable the Roxio
software.

Again, Windows XP will not natively (nor has it or will it in the future to
my knowledge) write to DVD anything... (+/- R/RW)
(With a minor exception for a particular few DVD-RAM drives.)
Please don't tell me I have to uninstall the InCD software in
order to do it. Isn't there some simpler way to turn off the InCD
and let the basic XP software do the work?

Again, Windows XP will not natively (nor has it or will it in the future to
my knowledge) write to DVD anything... (+/- R/RW)
(With a minor exception for a particular few DVD-RAM drives.)
P.S. I might mention in passing that over the years I've had more
computer problems involving data writing to CDs/DVDs than all my
other problems put together. I hope Vista has a built-in
drag-and-drop system that works as well as the old floppies used to.

Again, Windows XP will not natively (nor has it or will it in the future to
my knowledge) write to DVD anything... (+/- R/RW)
(With a minor exception for a particular few DVD-RAM drives.)
Thanks in advance for any advice.

Go entirely with some third party application if you wish to use Windows XP
and write to DVDs. If you wish to utilize packet writing (which seems to be
what you are going for) - I suggest reading this older (but still
informative) article...

http://www.aumha.org/win5/a/xpcd.htm
 
B

bud

Don said:
I have XP installed, but I use InCD to write data (only word '97
stuff)
to my DVD-RW disks because it's much simpler than the built-in XP (roxio)
software. I've not had a problem for a long time, but now I want to send
a
CD-RW with a Word document on it to someone who doesn't use InCD and I
want
them to be able to write to the CD and to amend the word document using
XP.

I thought the thing to do was simply use the built-in XP DVD-RW wrting
software (which is a basic kind of Roxio). Problem is, it won't do it. The
InCD software seems to interfere, even though I've gone into the drive
properties and checked the "enable CD writing on this drive" which, I
believe, is supposed to enable the Roxio software.

Please don't tell me I have to uninstall the InCD software in order to
do it. Isn't there some simpler way to turn off the InCD and let the basic
XP
software do the work?

P.S. I might mention in passing that over the years I've had more
computer problems involving data writing to CDs/DVDs than all my other
problems put together. I hope Vista has a built-in drag-and-drop system
that
works as well as the old floppies used to.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Cheers, Don.

If you use incd on a DVD-R or a CD-R it will make them readable on other
computers. When you go to eject the disk it will offer you that option. Then
the other person can copy it to their hard drive and do what they want to.
Or you can turn incd off by going into msconfig and unchecking it. That will
stop it from running. Don't know though if that would let you use the XP
software on a CD-RW. You'd have to give that a go and find out.
 
G

Guest

Thanks to all of you who replied. I see from the first link that I cannot do
what I wanted to do.

I will never understand why this function--writing to a CD/DVD -RW should
be a function reserved for third-party software, when it's so absolutely
integral and fundamental to the proper use of a computer and the exchange of
data. This functional OS software exists with a floppy and works perfectly,
so why on earth doesn't it exist for the hardware (DVD-rw) that evolved from
it? Somebody made a very wrong decision for wrong reasons. I'll tell you
one thing for sure. I'll never upgrade to Vista if it hasn't corrected this
major--and seemingly everylasting--problem.

Thanks again all of you.
 
G

Guest

IMO, it's 'plausible denyability'. If windows can't write it, then acquiring,
decoding, converting, and copying are all Not piracy.
 
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Shenan Stanley

Don wrote:
I will never understand why this function--writing to a CD/DVD
-RW should be a function reserved for third-party software, when
it's so absolutely integral and fundamental to the proper use of a
computer and the exchange of data. This functional OS software
exists with a floppy and works perfectly, so why on earth doesn't
it exist for the hardware (DVD-rw) that evolved from it? Somebody
made a very wrong decision for wrong reasons. I'll tell you one
thing for sure. I'll never upgrade to Vista if it hasn't corrected
this major--and seemingly everylasting--problem.

Let me explain...

In 2001 - when Windows XP was releasedto the public - CD/DVD-RW was not as
'popular' to the general public, nor as inexpensive, etc - as it is now. In
fact - DVD writing was fairly new to the consumer and quite expensive.
CD-R/RW functionality was included, but even the third party apps at the
time were not fantastic - especially in the -RW mode of things.

As the third party applications got better - there was little improvement in
the built-in Windows side. After all - they 'seemed' to be focussing more
on the security factors with SP2 - and not the functins such as CD/DVD
writing - so little (no) improvement was added there - not to mention that
SP2 was releases nearly 3 years ago itself.

What I am saying - in short - is that you are looking to OLD technology
(Windows XP) and wondering why the full functionality for something more
current is not included.

Years (unless months specified) are approximate:
- 1997; CD-RW and DVD-R technologies emerge in the computing industry.
- Late 1999; DVD-RW comes into its own.
- 2001-2002; DVD+R/RW comes to the public sector.

When did Windows XP RTM?
- August 24, 2001
When was Windows XP released?
- October 25, 2001
When did Windows XP SP1 RTM?
- August 30, 2002
When was Windows XP SP1 released?
- September 9, 2002
When was Windows XP SP1a released?
- February 3, 2003
When did Windows XP SP2 RTM?
- August 6, 2004
When was Windows XP SP2 released?
- August 16, 2004

When Windows XP was released - support for boot floppies was left in -
because that was still a concern. DVD writing was EXPENSIVE and very few
formats existed. Even CD-R/RW was no where near as inexpensive as it is now
(per disc.) The drives that did the writing to the media was not something
you just threw in a new system (like you do with todays less than $30/apiece
versions) to have it there. It added a significant chunk of change to the
end-price.

Your "major" problem is actually one of time.

An analogy for you: You bought a 1975 stock vehicle and wonder where the CD
music player is (is it a 6-disc CD-changer in the trunk??) Even more close
to now - you purchased a stock 1998 vehicle and wonder where the MP3 player
is or at least its auxilary audio input.

To put it into perspective:
When (what year) did you get your first computer?
What was your first operating system (specific version)?
 
G

Guest

I see what you're saying Shenan and thanks for the information.

Thanks again to all of you who contributed to my enlightenment.
 

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