Write-Delay errors for multi-user app

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Mike in Nebraska

PC: Intel P4 CPU 3gHz dual processor, 1 GB RAM, no-name box with a MSI
motherboard running Phoenix BIOS dated 2005.
OS: WinXP Pro SP3

We're running a multi-user app with the 'server' on another WinXP Pro PC. I
get several Write-Delay errors per day when workign within the app. We've
changed out the switch, ran new CAT5, updated BIOS and NIC drivers - no
change. Had app tech support look at data and they say it's within our
network. Would appreciate your ideas.

Here's the System log error:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: MRxSmb
Event Category: None
Event ID: 50
Date: 3/4/2010
Time: 2:26:20 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ESTIMATION
Description:
{Delayed Write Failed} Windows was unable to save all the data for the file
\Device\LanmanRedirector. The data has been lost. This error may be caused
by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to
save this file elsewhere.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 04 00 02 00 56 00 ......V.
0008: 00 00 00 00 32 00 04 80 ....2..€
0010: 00 00 00 00 0c 02 00 c0 .......À
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 0c 02 00 c0 ...À
(Yes, I checked the KB at Microsoft and this error shouldn't occur since I
have SP3.)

And here's the Application error (if it helps):

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 3/4/2010
Time: 1:34:55 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ESTIMATION
Description:
Faulting application turningpoint.exe, version 6.4.11.0, faulting module
kernel32.dll, version 5.1.2600.5781, fault address 0x00012afb.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 74 75 72 ure tur
0018: 6e 69 6e 67 70 6f 69 6e ningpoin
0020: 74 2e 65 78 65 20 36 2e t.exe 6.
0028: 34 2e 31 31 2e 30 20 69 4.11.0 i
0030: 6e 20 6b 65 72 6e 65 6c n kernel
0038: 33 32 2e 64 6c 6c 20 35 32.dll 5
0040: 2e 31 2e 32 36 30 30 2e .1.2600.
0048: 35 37 38 31 20 61 74 20 5781 at
0050: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0058: 30 30 31 32 61 66 62 0d 0012afb.
0060: 0a .

TIA,
Mike
Hastings, NE
 
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Paul

Mike said:
PC: Intel P4 CPU 3gHz dual processor, 1 GB RAM, no-name box with a MSI
motherboard running Phoenix BIOS dated 2005.
OS: WinXP Pro SP3

We're running a multi-user app with the 'server' on another WinXP Pro PC. I
get several Write-Delay errors per day when workign within the app. We've
changed out the switch, ran new CAT5, updated BIOS and NIC drivers - no
change. Had app tech support look at data and they say it's within our
network. Would appreciate your ideas.

Here's the System log error:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: MRxSmb
Event Category: None
Event ID: 50
Date: 3/4/2010
Time: 2:26:20 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ESTIMATION
Description:
{Delayed Write Failed} Windows was unable to save all the data for the file
\Device\LanmanRedirector. The data has been lost. This error may be caused
by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to
save this file elsewhere.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 04 00 02 00 56 00 ......V.
0008: 00 00 00 00 32 00 04 80 ....2..€
0010: 00 00 00 00 0c 02 00 c0 .......À
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 0c 02 00 c0 ...À
(Yes, I checked the KB at Microsoft and this error shouldn't occur since I
have SP3.)

And here's the Application error (if it helps):

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Error
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1000
Date: 3/4/2010
Time: 1:34:55 PM
User: N/A
Computer: ESTIMATION
Description:
Faulting application turningpoint.exe, version 6.4.11.0, faulting module
kernel32.dll, version 5.1.2600.5781, fault address 0x00012afb.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 46 61 69 6c ion Fail
0010: 75 72 65 20 20 74 75 72 ure tur
0018: 6e 69 6e 67 70 6f 69 6e ningpoin
0020: 74 2e 65 78 65 20 36 2e t.exe 6.
0028: 34 2e 31 31 2e 30 20 69 4.11.0 i
0030: 6e 20 6b 65 72 6e 65 6c n kernel
0038: 33 32 2e 64 6c 6c 20 35 32.dll 5
0040: 2e 31 2e 32 36 30 30 2e .1.2600.
0048: 35 37 38 31 20 61 74 20 5781 at
0050: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0058: 30 30 31 32 61 66 62 0d 0012afb.
0060: 0a .

TIA,
Mike
Hastings, NE

Is it possible the server is using a RAID array ? Say you
had an extremely long recovery time, from an attempt to
read or write, on the RAID array. Would the client application
time out, before the recovery on the RAID was complete ?

Perhaps you could use an ordinary single drive, on the server,
connect it to a Southbridge port, and store the server-side
data on that. Simplifying the path to the server storage,
might give a different set of symptoms.

The application "Wireshark", can be used to capture packets
on either of the computers. (Install an instance on each machine.)
The packets are time stamped. But such a scheme, doesn't tell
you what is happening within the server storage subsystem. You'd
also need some logs of any timeouts or the like, on the server
storage subsystem, to help in the debugging effort.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireshark

Paul
 
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Andrew E.

Write delays typically are always hard-drive issues,meaning the hd needs
replacing.Download the MS-DOS hd checker from its mfg web site,install to
floppy or cd,boot pc to floppy,run the tests...
 
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Mike in Nebraska

Thanks for the input, but we don't have a true server. I used that term for
where the primary app was installed since my app is pointed to hers under
the multi-use scenario. We, unfortunately, are in a P2P network behind a
Sonicwall firewall. I'm working on making the case for a LAN.

Mike
 
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Mike in Nebraska

I'll do that. I have suspected the motherboard, but you raise a good point.
I'll report back with the results.

Mike
 
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Mike in Nebraska

Finally had a chance to run CHKDSK /F. It only found minor errors, but
nothing wrong with the HD. Hmmmmm...
 
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Mike in Nebraska

Just an update. I'm still getting these errors - although not all the time
nor every day. This is the typical error:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: MRxSmb
Event Category: None
Event ID: 50
Date: 3/16/2010
Time: 9:07:03 AM
User: N/A
Computer: ESTIMATION
Description:
{Delayed Write Failed} Windows was unable to save all the data for the file
\Device\LanmanRedirector. The data has been lost. This error may be caused
by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to
save this file elsewhere.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 04 00 02 00 56 00 ......V.
0008: 00 00 00 00 32 00 04 80 ....2..€
0010: 00 00 00 00 0c 02 00 c0 .......À
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 0c 02 00 c0 ...À
===========
Since the HD seemed to check OK (see previous post), I uninstalled WinXP
SP3, then installed SP2 then SP3 in hopes it'd repair the Write-Delay
problem that was one of the fixes with SP2. But ... no change. Any other
tests I can run to nail down the specific cause? (I want to be able to show
definitively to the boss what the problem is so we can fix it and move on.)

TIA,
Mike
 
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trashcan

Just an update. I'm still getting these errors - although not all the time
nor every day. This is the typical error:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: MRxSmb
Event Category: None
Event ID: 50
Date: 3/16/2010
Time: 9:07:03 AM
User: N/A
Computer: ESTIMATION
Description:
{Delayed Write Failed} Windows was unable to save all the data for the file
\Device\LanmanRedirector. The data has been lost. This error may be caused
by a failure of your computer hardware or network connection. Please try to
save this file elsewhere.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 04 00 02 00 56 00 ......V.
0008: 00 00 00 00 32 00 04 80 ....2..€
0010: 00 00 00 00 0c 02 00 c0 .......À
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0028: 0c 02 00 c0 ...À
===========
Since the HD seemed to check OK (see previous post), I uninstalled WinXP
SP3, then installed SP2 then SP3 in hopes it'd repair the Write-Delay
problem that was one of the fixes with SP2. But ... no change. Any other
tests I can run to nail down the specific cause? (I want to be able to show
definitively to the boss what the problem is so we can fix it and move on.)

TIA,
Mike



This fixed the same ptoblem on my standalone box:

Windows Delayed Write Failed – Latest Solution

http://www.gibni.com/windows-delayed-write-failed-2
 
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Mike in Nebraska

I'll give it a try. I set the minimum to 80,000 and the max to 128,000 as
it was currently at 92,000+. On a related note, I downloaded and used
Seagate's HD Diagnostic (my HD is an ST380817AS legacy) and the scans I ran
from it found no problem. Doesn't mean there isn't one - could be an
intermittent thing that will soon manifest itself. Just don't know.

Mike
 

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