Word Pad to Word

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basilique

Hello!
Maybe you can help me.
For work purposes, I receive texts to deal with. When I get one in Word Pad,
I cannot
use my usual word processing tools the way I do in plain Word. Is there a
way
to transform Word Pad into plain Word?
I must tell you that I am a technical idiot...
Thanks in advance.
 
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Tim Slattery

basilique said:
Hello!
Maybe you can help me.
For work purposes, I receive texts to deal with. When I get one in Word Pad,
I cannot
use my usual word processing tools the way I do in plain Word. Is there a
way
to transform Word Pad into plain Word?

You have MS Word and you want to open a Word Pad doc in it? Your best
bet is probably to copy and paste.
 
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pjp

Open in WordPad, use "Select All" and then "Copy". Open Word and "Paste" in
the original text. Close WordPad, Close Word insuring you save your new
document same as any other document before exiting if you want to keep it as
a Word document.
 
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Bert Hyman

In "basilique"
Hello!
Maybe you can help me.
For work purposes, I receive texts to deal with. When I get one in
Word Pad,

What do you mean you "get one in Word Pad?"
I cannot use my usual word processing tools the way I do in
plain Word. Is there a way to transform Word Pad into plain Word?
I must tell you that I am a technical idiot...
Thanks in advance.

I don't understand your issue.

WordPad can save documents as RTF or text, both of which Word can easily
handle.

What problem are you having, exactly?
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Hello!
Maybe you can help me.
For work purposes, I receive texts to deal with. When I get one in Word Pad,
I cannot
use my usual word processing tools the way I do in plain Word. Is there a
way
to transform Word Pad into plain Word?
I must tell you that I am a technical idiot...



WordPad and Word are both programs, not file types. Each of them can
open several different file types. I can't remember the specifics of
XP's WordPad, but as far as I know, Word can open anything that
WordPad can.

You may be receiving documents with a file type that is set to open in
WordPad, but if you have Word installed, you should be able to open
them in Word. Instead of just clicking on them, right-click on them,
choose Open With, then choose Word.
 
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Don Phillipson

For work purposes, I receive texts to deal with. When I get one in Word
Pad, I cannot use my usual word processing tools the way I do in plain
Word. Is there a way to transform Word Pad into plain Word?

1. Theory = FILE ASSOCIATION (explained via / Start / Help.)
In theory each data file (text, picture, spreadsheet, etc.) has a
distinctive
File Type indicated by the 3-letter suffiix of the filename, following the
dot.
Common File Types for text are TXT, RTF, DOC, ASC, WPD, and so on.
In the 1980s these 3-letter suffixes were named "extensions."

2. Windows systems are configured so that each File Type is linked to one
appropriate Application (program) such as Word, Wordpad, Excel etc. These
apps open and display their data files because they use the formatting
code that may be written into the file (e.g. for Word DOC files.)

3. In a simple Windows system this meets most users needs automatically
so "naive users" do not need to know the File Type (and Windows XP hides
these by default: but they can be made visible in the file names via
/ My Computer / Tools / Folder Optins / View
where the 10th check box is to "Hide extensions for known file types."
You can uncheck this box so full filenames are revealed; and you can
then search (in your own PC or via Internet) to see which Apps are
preferred for the File Types that concern you.

4. Word processors (e.g. Word) are able to read files in various formats
including inset pictures and graphics. When they write files, they are
preconfigured to use their special formats (like DOC for MS Word) which
makes thee files a lot bigger.

4b. All word processors and (older) text editors can read plain text
(ASCII.) So whenever in doubt, when no pictures or graphics are present,
you can open any plain text file, Copy it in whole or part, then Paste
the text into another program, then Write it in whatever format your
employer wants.
 
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VanguardLH

basilique said:
For work purposes, I receive texts to deal with. When I get one in
Word Pad, I cannot use my usual word processing tools the way I do in
plain Word. Is there a way to transform Word Pad into plain Word? I
must tell you that I am a technical idiot... Thanks in advance.

Windows' Wordpad can save only in RTF (Rich-Text Format) or [Unicode]
text file formats. Word can read either of those formats. So you have
a different problem that you didn't mention here.

"my usual word processing tools the way I do in plain Word"

That implies you are trying to use some OTHER "word processing tools"
than some unidentified version of MS Word. Well, we can't address a
vague collection of "word processing tools" until you choose to
identify them.
 
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Sunny

VanguardLH said:
basilique said:
For work purposes, I receive texts to deal with. When I get one in
Word Pad, I cannot use my usual word processing tools the way I do in
plain Word. Is there a way to transform Word Pad into plain Word? I
must tell you that I am a technical idiot... Thanks in advance.

Windows' Wordpad can save only in RTF (Rich-Text Format) or [Unicode]
text file formats. Word can read either of those formats. So you have
a different problem that you didn't mention here.

"my usual word processing tools the way I do in plain Word"

That implies you are trying to use some OTHER "word processing tools"
than some unidentified version of MS Word. Well, we can't address a
vague collection of "word processing tools" until you choose to
identify them.

That would seem to be the "usual processing tools" :)

If they are old wordpad files,
For some reason WinXP doesn't recognise wordpad (.wri)
files that were raised in Win 9x.

Workaround : (If you want to open them in the original wordpad)
1. Open them with Word.
2. Save as Rich text file (will look like "File Name.wri.rtf").
3. Right click on the saved file and rename by deleting the .rtf.
4. The file - File Name.wri - will then open in wordpad
(providing you have file associations set for .wri to use Wordpad)

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=883090
Problem can be with WinXP SP2 :
To enable RTF converters in Windows XP SP2, you must modify
the registry. To do this, follow these steps:
1. Click Start, click Run, type regedit, and then press ENTER.
2. Locate and then click one of the following registry subkeys:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Applets\Wordpad
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\
CurrentVersion\Applets\Wordpad
3. Click Edit, click New, click DWORD Value, type:
EnableLegacyConverters, and then press ENTER.
4. Right-click EnableLegacyConverters, click Modify, and then
change the Value data to 1.
5. Click OK, and then quit Registry Editor.
 
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Nil

For work purposes, I receive texts to deal with. When I get one in
Word Pad, I cannot use my usual word processing tools the way I do
in plain Word. Is there a way to transform Word Pad into plain
Word?

Sorry, your question doesn't make good sense. Wordpad is a simple word
processor program that's included with Windows. Its native format is
..RTF (Rich Text Format.) Microsoft Word can easily open and read a .RTF
document that was created by Wordpad. Word can also save in RTF format
so that the document can be opened by Wordpad.

What is it, exactly you're trying to do? Please re-state your question.
 
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Sunny

Nil said:
.WRI is a Microsoft Write document, not Wordpad. MS Word can open them.

That is what Microsoft associated Wordpad with in Win98SE.
Any Worded documents I raise in my Win98SE PC save with the wri
extension.
 
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Tim Meddick

It's incredibly simple really...

First you must SAVE the received email attachment (that usually opens in
WordPad) to your hard-drive (My Documents folder).

To do this, right-click with the mouse on the attachment and choose "Save
As..." then save it in My Documents.

Next, OPEN the file by first starting Microsoft Word, then choosing "File"
"Open" from the top menus and browsing down the files in your My
Documents folder until you reach the saved file.

Having found your saved file in the "Open File..." box in MS Word, select
it and click on the "Open" button.


If the attachment CAN be opened in MS Word, you will be able to "see" it in
the "Open File" box from within the MS Word application - if it's of a type
that Word cannot deal with, you won't be able to "see" the file in the
dialogue box.

However, as someone else here has suggested, if it usually opens with
WordPad then it MUST open with MS Word, as MS Word can open anything that
WordPad can handle...

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
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Nil

That is what Microsoft associated Wordpad with in Win98SE.

Write came with Windows 3.5 and earlier. I don't have Win98 installed
anywhere to check if it works differently, but Wordpad in XP will open
a WRI document, but it won't save in that format, only in text or RTF
formats. MS Word can open and save WRI documents.

I notice that Word gives you both a "Save as Windows Write 3.0" and a
"Save as Windows Write 3.1" option, so I guess the Write format evolved
over time.

However, even though Wordpad presents you with a WRI option in its
"Open" dialog box, it seems to display it like it was text, and tries
to show all the binary stuff as characters, and no formatting is
respected. MS Word shows the WRI documents properly.
Any Worded documents I raise in my Win98SE PC save with the wri
extension.

What??
 
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Sunny

Nil said:
Write came with Windows 3.5 and earlier. I don't have Win98 installed
anywhere to check if it works differently, but Wordpad in XP will open
a WRI document, but it won't save in that format, only in text or RTF
formats. MS Word can open and save WRI documents.

I notice that Word gives you both a "Save as Windows Write 3.0" and a
"Save as Windows Write 3.1" option, so I guess the Write format evolved
over time.

However, even though Wordpad presents you with a WRI option in its
"Open" dialog box, it seems to display it like it was text, and tries
to show all the binary stuff as characters, and no formatting is
respected. MS Word shows the WRI documents properly.


What??

delete "Worded" insert "Wordpad" :)

The work around that I use in WinXP is :
1. Open them with Word.
2. Save as Rich text file (will look like "File Name.wri.rtf").
3. Right click on the saved file and rename by deleting the .rtf.
4. The file - File Name.wri - will then open in wordpad
(providing you have file associations set for .wri to use Wordpad)

This works if you don't want Wordpad files to open in Word.
Not sure about the latest Wordpad though, because it seems to have
inherited bells,whistles and "ribbon" from Word.
 
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Nil

The work around that I use in WinXP is :
1. Open them with Word.
2. Save as Rich text file (will look like "File Name.wri.rtf").
3. Right click on the saved file and rename by deleting the .rtf.
4. The file - File Name.wri - will then open in wordpad
(providing you have file associations set for .wri to use Wordpad)

This works if you don't want Wordpad files to open in Word.
Not sure about the latest Wordpad though, because it seems to have
inherited bells,whistles and "ribbon" from Word.

Well, OK, I guess. But if you have Word, why bother with Wordpad in
the first place? You might as well save them as .RTF or .DOC and be
done with it.
 
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Sunny

Nil said:
Well, OK, I guess. But if you have Word, why bother with Wordpad in
the first place? You might as well save them as .RTF or .DOC and be
done with it.

I use it a lot for simple word files without all the crap that is in Word.
(Just a tad more features than Notepad) :)
 
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Nil

I use it a lot for simple word files without all the crap that is
in Word. (Just a tad more features than Notepad) :)

For me, the only reason I can think to use Wordpad for is if it started
up a lot faster than Word. But it doesn't - it starts up a little bit
faster, but Word still only takes about a second.

People used to recommend Wordpad for opening very large text files -
apparently it isn't subject to the same document size limit that
Notepad is. But I've always used decent text editors, so I never needed
it for that.

I don't think I've ever used Wordpad for anything constructive, just
opened it occasionally to look at it.
 
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Nil

There was never a Windows 3.5. Do you mean Windows NT 3.5?

No, I meant Windows 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups).

It's been a long time. All that stuff I lived through seems like
ancient history now.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

No, I meant Windows 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups).


Not to give you a hard time, but in that case, let me make another
correction ;-)

There were two different Microsoft products called 3.11:

1. Windows 3.11 (a *very* minor upgrade to Windows 3.1, that just
contained some additional drivers and some fixes that had been
available separately).

2. Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (very different from Windows 3.11).

It's been a long time. All that stuff I lived through seems like
ancient history now.


Yep, same for me. Don't ask me how I remember the above--I don't
really know. Perhaps because it was very common in those days to make
the error of thinking Windows 3.11 was Windows for Workgroups.
 

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