WMM CD-RW OK for DVD player, but CD not ! -Why ?

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Errol

If I output a movie I've created to a CD-RW I can play it on my ordinary DVD
player connected to my TV. But if I cut a CD-R the player cannot read it. Any
comments or work-arounds for this problem ?

Many thanks

Errol
 
J

John Inzer

Errol said:
If I output a movie I've created to a CD-RW I can play it on my
ordinary DVD player connected to my TV. But if I cut a CD-R the
player cannot read it. Any comments or work-arounds for this problem ?

Many thanks

Errol
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I'm thinking the owner's manual for your DVD
Player may hold the answers you seek.

What_exactly_did you burn on the CD-RW?
And...what software did you use to burn it?

Is it a VCD?

Does your DVD Player recognize certain
formats...like .avi or .wmv?

What did you burn on the CD-R?

--


John Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
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Errol

Hi John

The folders on the CD-RW are CDI, EXT, MPEGAV, PICTURES, SEGMENT and VCD.
The folder MPEGAV contains the largest file called AVSEQ01.DAT. The folder
VCD contains ENTRIES.VCD, INFO.VCD, LOT.VCD and PSD.VCD. Does this help ? The
CD-R is a bit by bit copy of the RW using Nero, and the contents are exactly
the same as the RW.

Errol Greer
 
J

John Inzer

Errol said:
Hi John

The folders on the CD-RW are CDI, EXT, MPEGAV, PICTURES, SEGMENT and
VCD. The folder MPEGAV contains the largest file called AVSEQ01.DAT.
The folder VCD contains ENTRIES.VCD, INFO.VCD, LOT.VCD and PSD.VCD.
Does this help ? The CD-R is a bit by bit copy of the RW using Nero,
and the contents are exactly the same as the RW.

Errol Greer
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OK...you used some type of authoring software
to create a VCD. (That would be a Video CD)

Some DVD Players will play a VCD some will not.

I suspect something in the copy process went
wrong. I would suggest using the following freebie
to create an ISO and then burn the ISO onto another
CD.

ImgBurn
http://www.filehippo.com/download_imgburn/

How to create an image file from a disc with ImgBurn
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=6379

How to write an image file to a disc with ImgBurn
http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=61

--


John Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
W

walter

[inline reply]

John said:
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OK...you used some type of authoring software
to create a VCD. (That would be a Video CD)

Some DVD Players will play a VCD some will not.

If I'm understanding this correctly, he's sayng the VCD plays just fine on
his stand-alone DVD player when recorded to CD-RW, but not when burnt to
CD-R. Which, for lack of a fancier term, seems backwards. Neither of my
stand-alone DVD players recognize -RW. but they're old.
I suspect something in the copy process went
wrong.

That's always a possibility, but seems doubtful in this case as he's
apparently done a side-by-side comparison of the file sizes and they've
turned up identical. He doesn't say, but I'm wondering if the VCD (burnt to
the CD-R) plays on the machine that created it? If it doesn't, that would
be a sure sign something went wrong during the copy/burn process.

Assuming he hasn't mixed-up the terminology, and his stand-alone player can
play the VCD in question via CD-RW media, it SHOULD be able to play the same
VCD when it's burnt to CD-R. Therefore I'd eliminate the player as being
the "problem". Which brings us back to the disk. Here's what I'm
wondering. Did he leave the session open when he burnt the VCD to the -R
disk? If so, maybe closing the disk would solve the problem? (Might even
have to burn another one in a closed-session.)

It's a shot in the dark, I know. But my thought process is - Being that
the first thing any player does is recognize the media you've fed it, maybe
when he inserts a -RW disk his player has been programmed from the factory
to expect -RW to be open-session and acts accordingly. And by the same
token, when he inserts a -R disk, the player expects the session to be
closed, and if it isn't, the player has no idea what to do with it? Again.
Just a guess.
 
J

John Inzer

walter said:
It's a shot in the dark, I know. But my thought process is - Being
that the first thing any player does is recognize the media you've
fed it, maybe when he inserts a -RW disk his player has been
programmed from the factory to expect -RW to be open-session and acts
accordingly. And by the same token, when he inserts a -R disk, the
player expects the session to be closed, and if it isn't, the player
has no idea what to do with it? Again. Just a guess.
=================================
A VCD (like a DVD) would be closed when
rendered with the authoring software. And
a properly made copy would also be closed
and should play on any player that recognizes
a VCD.

--


John Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
W

walter

John said:
=================================
A VCD (like a DVD) would be closed when
rendered with the authoring software. And
a properly made copy would also be closed
and should play on any player that recognizes
a VCD.

OK. Then is it possbile his stand-alone player simply doesn't "like" the
brand of CD-R blanks he used to create the the VCD?

I've had that (please insert a disk, when there's one in the bay) happen
when attempting to burn, but I've never had a succesful burn that wouldn't
play on either of my old stand-alone players.
 
J

John Inzer

walter said:
OK. Then is it possbile his stand-alone player simply doesn't "like"
the brand of CD-R blanks he used to create the the VCD?
==============================
Yes...it's possible but not likely.
==============================
I've had that (please insert a disk, when there's one in the bay)
happen when attempting to burn, but I've never had a succesful burn
that wouldn't play on either of my old stand-alone players.
==============================
I've had lots of disks that would not
play correctly and many times the
software I used was at fault.

There are no hard and fast answers
to CD / DVD burning...it's a complex
process that has many pitfalls.


--


John Inzer MS-MVP
Digital Media Experience

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
G

Gene

Errol said:
If I output a movie I've created to a CD-RW I can play it on my ordinary DVD
player connected to my TV. But if I cut a CD-R the player cannot read it. Any
comments or work-arounds for this problem ?

Many thanks

Errol
Easy solving your dilemma turn your media file into a dvd by using a simple free program called Dvd flick
http://www.dvdflick.net/
you just add your video to be changed into vob files then use img burn to
save your dvd you created on your hard drive to disk

hey then no more worries!
 
W

walter

Gene said:

What if he doesn't have a DVD burner?

We KNOW he has a player, but we don't know if he has a burner.
you just add your video to be changed into vob files then use img
burn to save your dvd you created on your hard drive to disk

hey then no more worries!

See above.

For some as yet undisclosed reason, (backward-compatibilty maybe?) he's
choosing to create VCD's, not DVD's
 
E

Errol

walter said:
What if he doesn't have a DVD burner?

We KNOW he has a player, but we don't know if he has a burner.


See above.

For some as yet undisclosed reason, (backward-compatibilty maybe?) he's
choosing to create VCD's, not DVD's
Hi Guys

Thanks for the input. I gave both CDs to a friend who has a new DVD player
and BOTH played with no trouble. My Sony DVD player is over 7 years old, so I
think the time has come for me to buy a new one !

Cheers, Errol
 
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