WITH THIS GIZMO YOU NO LONGER NEED ANTIVIRUS

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GOOD NEWS

now then lets see, viruses, ever wanted to play with a virus yet not do any
damage to your system what so ever? ever wanted to go look at your porn
without all the hassle of having to remove dialers, spyware, viruses,
activeX controls? well now thanks to this gizmo you can do what the hell you
want to!!! simply get ur pc running exactly as u want it and then pop this
card in and as soon as windows crashes just reboot your pc and everything is
back to normal, so stop scratching your head over these bastard viruses buy
one of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7148644914
and carry on with your life.



Ste
 
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David H. Lipman

From: "GOOD NEWS" <[email protected]>

| now then lets see, viruses, ever wanted to play with a virus yet not do any
| damage to your system what so ever? ever wanted to go look at your porn
| without all the hassle of having to remove dialers, spyware, viruses,
| activeX controls? well now thanks to this gizmo you can do what the hell you
| want to!!! simply get ur pc running exactly as u want it and then pop this
| card in and as soon as windows crashes just reboot your pc and everything is
| back to normal, so stop scratching your head over these bastard viruses buy
| one of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7148644914
| and carry on with your life.
|
| Ste
|
|
|
|

BullSh!t !!
 
F

Frode

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GOOD said:
now then lets see, viruses, ever wanted to play with a virus yet not do
any damage to your system what so ever? ever wanted to go look at your
porn without all the hassle of having to remove dialers, spyware, viruses,
activeX controls? well now thanks to this gizmo you can do what the hell
you want to!!! simply get ur pc running exactly as u want it and then pop
this card in and as soon as windows crashes just reboot your pc and
everything is back to normal


For anybody who would actually like a product like this. One that's real I
mean, as opposed to the fraud this guy's trying. Have a look at Deep Freeze
(http://www.faronics.com/html/deepfreeze.asp) or the more consumer
oriented Norton Goback (http://www.symantec.com/goback/).

There are more alternatives on google.


- --
Frode


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R

R!


Sounds a lot like WatchIt

http://watchit.convar.com/Default.htm?Language=1

From now on, you can protect your data efficiently and inexpensively.

PC INSPECTOR(tm) WatchIT from CONVAR is a hardware solution that will
recover your data within a few seconds, simply by hitting a key.

In less than 2 seconds PC INSPECTOR(tm) WatchIT will recover the data
of a whole 40 GB hard disk.

R!
 
G

Gabriele Neukam

On that special day, GOOD NEWS, ([email protected]) said...
pop this
card in and as soon as windows crashes just reboot your pc and everything is
back to normal,

What is new about "PC Sheriff"?

http://www.schwarz.de/auctores/scs/imc/fdInf_ID=
18020ccXf622ed0bbeXY7e9e=l=96646193=l=96646193/index.htm?ITServ=
57d3400cX10347fa4e30X33cb (one line)

Interesting, that they are calling a computer a "he". Mayhaps I should
tell them, it is a *thing*, hehe.

This is a NEWS group, got it?


Gabriele Neukam

(e-mail address removed)
 
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Andrew Price

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:22:03 +0200, Gabriele Neukam

[PC Sheriff]
Interesting, that they are calling a computer a "he".

The company is German. The text was probably written by a geek who
doesn't speak English all that well and just made an assumption - as
you know, computer is masculine in German (*der* Rechner) .
 
G

GOOD NEWS

or he missed the t out more likely the he



Andrew Price said:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:22:03 +0200, Gabriele Neukam

[PC Sheriff]
Interesting, that they are calling a computer a "he".

The company is German. The text was probably written by a geek who
doesn't speak English all that well and just made an assumption - as
you know, computer is masculine in German (*der* Rechner) .
 
A

Anonymous

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:22:03 +0200, Gabriele Neukam

[PC Sheriff]
Interesting, that they are calling a computer a "he".

The company is German. The text was probably written by a geek who
doesn't speak English all that well and just made an assumption - as
you know, computer is masculine in German (*der* Rechner) .

given how bitchy they are, computers MUST be female!

-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
 
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Gabriele Neukam

On that special day, Anonymous, ([email protected])
said...
[PC Sheriff]
Interesting, that they are calling a computer a "he".

The company is German. The text was probably written by a geek who
doesn't speak English all that well and just made an assumption - as
you know, computer is masculine in German (*der* Rechner) .

Yuppers. You don't have to tell me that. Look into my header,
sweetheart.
given how bitchy they are, computers MUST be female!

LOL. Well, I've got mine under control. Women know each other.


Gabriele Neukam

(e-mail address removed)
 
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The Happy Hippy

Well I read the add and decided to risk £8 of my own personal money and
heres what I thought:

I wiped my machine and setup windows just as I wanted it, turned off
automatic updates, and decided to challenge the theory behind the reset
card - I DIDNT install an antivirus, which can be risky business with
Microsofts latest OS on a broadband connection that just seems to hoover up
all of the viruses on the internet. The card was very easy to install and
just seemed to work! After a while of messing with my desktop icons making a
complete mess (I messed with the icons to make sure the product worked
before taking it on the net) I gave my pc a reboot, when windows booted up I
was quite pleased to see my desktop clean and tidy. I then decided to give
the card a real test. After visiting several "moody" websites I had ended
up with aload of dialers, adware, viruses etc etc etc... after an hour or so
my pc finaly graunched to a halt, I decided to reboot the pc to find that
windows was just back to normal, no viruses, adware, spyware. I think this
card is probaly the best thing available on the net today! It costs under
£10 (wich is cheaper than any antivirus i have ever seen) It works and means
that you can even show off by challenging people to break the computer. All
in all a very usefull gadget!

The Happy Hippy
 
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Roger Wilco

The Happy Hippy said:
Well I read the add and decided to risk £8 of my own personal money and
heres what I thought:

I wiped my machine and setup windows just as I wanted it, turned off
automatic updates, and decided to challenge the theory behind the reset
card - I DIDNT install an antivirus, which can be risky business with
Microsofts latest OS on a broadband connection that just seems to hoover up
all of the viruses on the internet. The card was very easy to install and
just seemed to work! After a while of messing with my desktop icons making a
complete mess (I messed with the icons to make sure the product worked
before taking it on the net) I gave my pc a reboot, when windows booted up I
was quite pleased to see my desktop clean and tidy. I then decided to give
the card a real test. After visiting several "moody" websites I had ended
up with aload of dialers, adware, viruses etc etc etc... after an hour or so
my pc finaly graunched to a halt, I decided to reboot the pc to find that
windows was just back to normal, no viruses, adware, spyware. I think this
card is probaly the best thing available on the net today! It costs under
£10 (wich is cheaper than any antivirus i have ever seen) It works and means
that you can even show off by challenging people to break the computer. All
in all a very usefull gadget!

The ability to restore easily to a pre-infected state is nice, but that
does NOT negate the need for an anti-virus or any other safe computing
"best practice". The idea behind AV is (or was??) to prevent your
'needing' to restore. During the time you spend online before you start
noticing sluggishness for your test - you were probably spewing out all
sorts of malicious packets, It is best to realize the viruses aren't
"your" problem - they are "our" problem even if you can quickly and
easily restore when you feel like it.

This device is 'dangerous' to OTHERS in the hands of those that don't
understand the nature of the problem.
 
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The Happy Hippy

Well all I can say is that if I get a virus all I have todo is reboot the
computer and its gone, and to be honest for £8 I don't care how it works,
all I know is that it works and its better than an antivirus, also does CMOS
protection wich is quite handy.

Think what you may but I am a beliver, most of you maybe thinking "I don't
belive in this rubbish" to be honest neither did I untill I saw it with my
own eyes.

The Happy Hippy`
 
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Roger Wilco

The Happy Hippy said:
Well all I can say is that if I get a virus all I have todo is reboot the
computer and its gone, and to be honest for £8 I don't care how it
works,

Yes, it is a good thing, but that shouldn't mean that you can go around
catching viruses just because they are so easy to recover from. By the
time you recover you will have caused increased risk to others. The fact
that you don't care about that consequence make you appear antisocial.
all I know is that it works and its better than an antivirus,

Better than an antivirus does at recovery, but that is not really the
point of AV anyway - it's a tool aimed at prevention.
also does CMOS
protection wich is quite handy.

Think what you may but I am a beliver, most of you maybe thinking "I don't
belive in this rubbish" to be honest neither did I untill I saw it with my
own eyes.

You should use more than eyes and realize that recovery and prevention
are different things. AV's don't detect malware so that they can remove
them, they detect them so that you can avoid executing them. What they
do to aid in removal is to "identify" some of them and provide removal
routines. A good backup/recovery scheme is a good thing, but is NOT a
substitute for preventive measures. Saying you don't need AV if you use
such a device only shows you have misconceptions about what AV is (or at
least what it was before it became a 'morning after' pill).

The product should be sold as what it is (a recovery tool) and not an
alternative to a part of safe practice, to do otherwise is reckless and
a disservice to others.
 
G

Gabriele Neukam

On that special day, The Happy Hippy, ([email protected]) said...
Think what you may but I am a beliver,

I didn't say I am a non-believer, I said, the product *exists* already,
and has done so for probably more than six years. It was invented in
Germany by a student, who had his idea realized by the Schwarz company,
and there is even another "PC Waechter" there.

The main problem with that solution is: As long as you don't revert the
system to its original status, it will behave as all infected systems
do, and send mass mails or mass messages (IRC and similar services),
trying to infect even more machines. If your pc is running 24/7 for a
week, it has infected hundreds of victims. And a "reversal to the
former state" can only be performed on *your* computer; the others
*stay* infected and have no means to get rid of nasty multithread
critters.

Don't sit there, and think smugly just how safe you are; as you are not
alone in this world, and you are still responsible for everything that
you (or your belongings) do to others.


Gabriele Neukam

(e-mail address removed)
 
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The Happy Hippy

Hi Gabriele

Thanks for your reply. I do deeply understand things from your point of view
but if you look at it from a network admin point of view the card does keep
system downtime to a minimum, the fast removal of viruses from systems
is a very handy thing for me to have. I personaly think the best use for a
device like this
is in the typical networking environment where users have bad habits of
downloading
all sorts of nasty little critters, ok yeah domain controllers can tame the
users to an extent
but as a low cost solution for small networks its definatly a must have.
Other good uses
of this are for people such as software developers who need a solution that
is faster than
ghosting a system.

Also just out of interest how many people out there in cyber space would
just like a PC
that went on the internet, got email and didn't break? (by saying that I
mean yeah your computer
will break but then you just reboot and carry on as normal)

Oh one other thing, doesn't the card make computing safer? If my computer
gets a virus and starts broadcasting to other machines, I reboot and the
little
critter's gone, where as if I was running say Norton or Mc Afee and the
virus gets past
the AV (wich the little buggers sometimes do) that means im infected and
potentialy broadcasting the virus
for a longer time altogether.

The Happy Hippy
 
D

David W. Hodgins

Well all I can say is that if I get a virus all I have todo is reboot the
computer and its gone, and to be honest for £8 I don't care how it works,
all I know is that it works and its better than an antivirus, also does CMOS
protection wich is quite handy.

Unless you're planning on rebooting every few minutes, you're putting
your internet connection at risk.

If you're using M$'s eXtra Patch system Without av, firewall, etc, all
you need to do is get infected with spamware. A few reports to your
isp, and your account is gone. They may not terminate your account
the first time, but repeated infections would most likely do it.

You can't replace safe-hex with an automatic backup/restore, and expect
to be allowed to continue connecting to the internet. This backup/restore
utility may be usefull for internet cafes, libraries, etc, but for the
average home user, it's absolutely useless.

Good Luck!

Regards, Dave Hodgins
 

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