Wireless Networking Problems

G

Guest

Hi all
couple of problems with wireless networking in my home. Ive bought a
wireless router to connect my desktop to a wireless ready laptop. I want to
share an internet connection through the network also. Ive run the network
wizard and configured my desktop as a host and then the same with on the
laptop but as a client sharing the connection. The laptop will not connect
to the internet in anyway whatsoever. Also i have enbaled printer sharing
and various other shared files but the computers will not access them? Is XP
really this bad?!?!? lol any help would be great!
cheers
dave
 
R

R. McCarty

Maybe a little slow today & not following your schema, which I
assume is a ICS. I would just set it up as follows:
Internet--->Modem---Wireless Router---->Wired Clients
----->Wireless
Clients
 
L

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

spoondriver said:
Hi all
couple of problems with wireless networking in my home. Ive bought a
wireless router to connect my desktop to a wireless ready laptop. I want
to
share an internet connection through the network also. Ive run the
network
wizard and configured my desktop as a host and then the same with on the
laptop but as a client sharing the connection. The laptop will not
connect
to the internet in anyway whatsoever. Also i have enbaled printer sharing
and various other shared files but the computers will not access them? Is
XP
really this bad?!?!? lol any help would be great!
cheers
dave

Since you have a router, you don't need to share your internet connection.
Remove the dreaded ICS/undo what you've done.

Set up your desktop to plug directly into one of the switch ports on your
router (I'm presuming it has a built-in Ethernet switch; most do - if not,
you'll need to get a separate little'un and plug it into the LAN port on
your router so it uplinks, and then connect your PC to the switch)
..
Set up your router so its Internet/WAN port connects directly to the LAN
port on your broadbound modem, and if you use ADSL, you'll need to configure
the router to do PPPoE so it can get (and hence share) the connection.

Set up your wireless computer to access the router wirelessly.

Both computers should receive IP addresses automatically from the router,
and should both be able to access the Internet.

Re sharing on both: make them members of the same workgroup, make sure
NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on each computer (TCP/IP properties,
advanced/more settings). Make sure you can ping each PC by IP address from
the other. Then try to ping each computer by name from the other. If that
works, any shares you set up should be visible.

If you run the Windows firewall or another software firewall, as you likely
ought to, make sure to set up exceptions for file/print sharing - ideally
for your local subnet only.

Re wireless - don't leave it wide open for the entire neighborhood to use.
If it's a fairly recent model access point/router, it should be able to use
WPA+PSK - and any newish wireless card in the laptop should be able to
handle it, too.

Hope this gets you off to a good start.
 
G

Guest

Problem with connecting my broadband modem to the router is that it connects
to my pc via a usb not an ethernet so i cant plug it into the router
dave
 
L

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

spoondriver said:
Problem with connecting my broadband modem to the router is that it
connects
to my pc via a usb not an ethernet so i cant plug it into the router

Ugh - see if you can get a regular modem with an Ethernet port, not a USB
one. Who's your ISP?
 
R

Richard in AZ

Every broadband modem I have ever seen has both a ethernet and USB port.
Has the OT actually look hard at the modem? What brand and model is it?

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
 
E

Ed.

Mine don't as a matter of information. I have a ethernet and firewire port
and no USB port on mine which is a Motorola Surfboard Model SB5100.

Richard in AZ said:
Every broadband modem I have ever seen has both a ethernet and USB port.
Has the OT actually look hard at the modem? What brand and model is it?

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
Ugh - see if you can get a regular modem with an Ethernet port, not a USB
one. Who's your ISP?
 
G

Guest

Ok im not completely stupid here folks! I live in the UK and one of the main
providers of broadband is BT. They sInitially supplied a broadband modem
that is linked to teh phone line then from the the modem is a USB connection
to the pc. When it's installed it is registered as a dial-up connection not
a broadband one.
I have a feeling this has something to do with the gateway settings from the
client computer so what do i set them up to?
dave

Richard in AZ said:
Every broadband modem I have ever seen has both a ethernet and USB port.
Has the OT actually look hard at the modem? What brand and model is it?

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
Ugh - see if you can get a regular modem with an Ethernet port, not a USB
one. Who's your ISP?
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

Ed. said:
Mine don't as a matter of information. I have a ethernet and firewire
port and no USB port on mine which is a Motorola Surfboard Model
SB5100.


I don't have a USB port on my Cisco 678 DSL "modem" either. Perhaps all
*newer* broadband modems do, but certainly not all broadband modems.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Richard in AZ said:
Every broadband modem I have ever seen has both a ethernet and USB
port. Has the OT actually look hard at the modem? What brand and
model is it? "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
message Problem with connecting my broadband modem to the router is that it
connects
to my pc via a usb not an ethernet so i cant plug it into the
router

Ugh - see if you can get a regular modem with an Ethernet port, not
a USB one. Who's your ISP?

dave

:


message Hi all
couple of problems with wireless networking in my home. Ive
bought a wireless router to connect my desktop to a wireless
ready laptop. I want
to
share an internet connection through the network also. Ive run
the network
wizard and configured my desktop as a host and then the same
with on the
laptop but as a client sharing the connection. The laptop will
not connect
to the internet in anyway whatsoever. Also i have enbaled
printer sharing
and various other shared files but the computers will not access
them? Is
XP
really this bad?!?!? lol any help would be great!
cheers
dave

Since you have a router, you don't need to share your internet
connection.
Remove the dreaded ICS/undo what you've done.

Set up your desktop to plug directly into one of the switch ports
on your
router (I'm presuming it has a built-in Ethernet switch; most do
- if not,
you'll need to get a separate little'un and plug it into the LAN
port on
your router so it uplinks, and then connect your PC to the switch)
..
Set up your router so its Internet/WAN port connects directly to
the LAN
port on your broadbound modem, and if you use ADSL, you'll need to
configure
the router to do PPPoE so it can get (and hence share) the
connection. Set up your wireless computer to access the router
wirelessly.

Both computers should receive IP addresses automatically from the
router,
and should both be able to access the Internet.

Re sharing on both: make them members of the same workgroup, make
sure NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on each computer (TCP/IP
properties, advanced/more settings). Make sure you can ping each
PC by IP address from
the other. Then try to ping each computer by name from the other.
If that
works, any shares you set up should be visible.

If you run the Windows firewall or another software firewall, as
you likely
ought to, make sure to set up exceptions for file/print sharing -
ideally
for your local subnet only.

Re wireless - don't leave it wide open for the entire
neighborhood to use.
If it's a fairly recent model access point/router, it should be
able to use
WPA+PSK - and any newish wireless card in the laptop should be
able to handle it, too.

Hope this gets you off to a good start.
 
R

R. McCarty

They've (USB connections) have been around for a while. I'm still using a
Speedstream DSL that's perhaps 5 years old and it has both Ethernet &
USB connectivity. I sometimes suspect that the USB only units are done
for two reasons: (1) Simple Setup (2.) Stop use with Routers (?)

Ken Blake said:
Ed. said:
Mine don't as a matter of information. I have a ethernet and firewire
port and no USB port on mine which is a Motorola Surfboard Model
SB5100.


I don't have a USB port on my Cisco 678 DSL "modem" either. Perhaps all
*newer* broadband modems do, but certainly not all broadband modems.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Richard in AZ said:
Every broadband modem I have ever seen has both a ethernet and USB
port. Has the OT actually look hard at the modem? What brand and
model is it? "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
message
message Problem with connecting my broadband modem to the router is that it
connects
to my pc via a usb not an ethernet so i cant plug it into the
router

Ugh - see if you can get a regular modem with an Ethernet port, not
a USB one. Who's your ISP?

dave

:


message Hi all
couple of problems with wireless networking in my home. Ive
bought a wireless router to connect my desktop to a wireless
ready laptop. I want
to
share an internet connection through the network also. Ive run
the network
wizard and configured my desktop as a host and then the same
with on the
laptop but as a client sharing the connection. The laptop will
not connect
to the internet in anyway whatsoever. Also i have enbaled
printer sharing
and various other shared files but the computers will not access
them? Is
XP
really this bad?!?!? lol any help would be great!
cheers
dave

Since you have a router, you don't need to share your internet
connection.
Remove the dreaded ICS/undo what you've done.

Set up your desktop to plug directly into one of the switch ports
on your
router (I'm presuming it has a built-in Ethernet switch; most do
- if not,
you'll need to get a separate little'un and plug it into the LAN
port on
your router so it uplinks, and then connect your PC to the switch)
..
Set up your router so its Internet/WAN port connects directly to
the LAN
port on your broadbound modem, and if you use ADSL, you'll need to
configure
the router to do PPPoE so it can get (and hence share) the
connection. Set up your wireless computer to access the router
wirelessly.

Both computers should receive IP addresses automatically from the
router,
and should both be able to access the Internet.

Re sharing on both: make them members of the same workgroup, make
sure NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on each computer (TCP/IP
properties, advanced/more settings). Make sure you can ping each
PC by IP address from
the other. Then try to ping each computer by name from the other.
If that
works, any shares you set up should be visible.

If you run the Windows firewall or another software firewall, as
you likely
ought to, make sure to set up exceptions for file/print sharing -
ideally
for your local subnet only.

Re wireless - don't leave it wide open for the entire
neighborhood to use.
If it's a fairly recent model access point/router, it should be
able to use
WPA+PSK - and any newish wireless card in the laptop should be
able to handle it, too.

Hope this gets you off to a good start.
 
G

Guest

rite ok well im not intending on spending 50+quid on a new modem when my 2.2
meg connection works jus fine! So is anyone able to help me sort this out??
as i said i think it has something to do with the gateway settings on the
client pc, can anyone advise on the settings for it to connect to the
internet?
cheers
dave
 
G

Guest

I see that you have previously succeeded in sharing a USB ADSL connection,
however it is unclear whether you have done this through Windows ICS. I would
appreciate any help:-

My system setup:

Host PC:
Desktop connected to Speedtouch ADSL modem with USB only! - Windows Firewall
running std - no exceptions.
Wireless Asus NIC - Windows Firewall running std - no exceptions.

Laptop:
Wireless Intel NIC

I have managed to set up an ad hoc connection (with no security). I followed
Barb Bowmen'd model and the ad-hoc connection is OK. However my laptop is
still unable to connect to the internet (page cannot be dispalyed). I see
from Barb's model that my laptop should show an internet gateway, but it does
not.

Looks like it certainly has something to do with being USB.

Did you ever get this sorted?
 

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