Windows XP and New Computer Questions

[Daave]

Open Office is freeware. Actually, it's quite good. I use it. It can
open most files created in MS Office. And you can create files in Open
Office that will be able to be opened in MS Office. (That's what they
mean by "compatible."

But that being said, you might as well just install MS Office. It
doesn't sound like yours is an OEM version, so I'm sure the license
permits transfer. You can doublecheck this by cliking on Help (from the
Menu Bar) and then "About..." in the drop-down and then you should be
able to view the EULA.

Thank you for your responses, Glen and Daave. My Office software is
"Office XP Professional - Academic Edition". It came as part of an
online college course. The institution paid for the software and I'm
sure, included it in the price of my course. I would assume the
software would be considered as "retail", since it didn't come with
my computer and I got it later. I guess I'll find out when my
computer arrives.

My refurbished computer seller does state that this software is
included: "Office Suite CD's included (Open Office) (compatible with
Microsoft Office)". Is this the "OEM software" you're referring to,
Daave, or something different?

Again, thanks for your help! I appreciate it.

Sue

The Dell PC that was donated to our nonprofit had originally come
with OEM versions of XP Home and Office Basic Edition 2003. I never
looked at the original bill of sale, but I'll bet the Office suite
didn't cost anywhere near as much as its Retail counterpart. So,
although Retail has its clear advantages, they come with a price.
That being said, for people who go through PCs faster than they go
through Office suites, the Retail version will pay for itself.

To OP: Have you figured out which version you have? Also, know that
if you buy a used PC, it's often possible to obtain one with
accompanying OEM software (not only Windows but also Office). Just
do your homework.

Yeah, I saw that dangling grammar also.....but it appears you are
correct in your assumption of how it is meant, considering these
lines, which make it pretty clear:

"The Software is licensed with the Computer as a single integrated
product and may only be used with the Computer. If the Software is
not accompanied by a Computer, you may not use the Software."

So that's the agreement with "OEM" versions of Office.....glad I
don't have any of those versions!

My version of Office is:

Microsoft Office Basic Edition 2003

It must be considered OEM because it contains the following
language on the installation CD:

"For distribution with a new PC only."

Also, the following is from its EULA:

1. GRANT OF LICENSE. Manufacturer grants you the following
rights provided that you comply with all terms and conditions of
this EULA:

1.1 Installation and use. Except as otherwise expressly
provided in this EULA, you may install and use one copy of the
Software on the Computer. The Software may not be installed,
accessed, displayed, run, shared or used concurrently on or from
different computers, including a workstation, terminal or other
device.

1.2 Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO OR USED CONCURRENTLY ON
DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The Software is licensed with the Computer
as a single integrated product and may only be used with the
Computer. If the Software is not accompanied by a Computer, you
may not use the Software. You may permanently transfer all of
your rights under this EULA only as part of a permanent sale or
transfer of the Computer, provided you retain no copies, if you
transfer the Software (including all component parts, the media,
any upgrades, this EULA and the COA), and the recipient agrees to
the terms of this EULA. If the Software is an upgrade, any
transfer must also include all
prior versions of the Software.

As usual, Microsoft is not as clear as they could be!

Does the adverb "concurrently" modify *only* the verb "used"? If
so, it's not kosher to transfer.

However, if the adverb modifies the phrase "SHARED, TRANSFERRED TO
OR USED," then it transferring is permitted by the EULA (provided
that it is no longer being used on the first PC).

Way to go, Microsoft!

I have a feeling Microsoft intended "concurrently" to only modify
the word "used." But they could have been clearer. It's like the
Second Amendment!!!




glee wrote:
Gee Daave, I dunno. I've never seen an "OEM version" of Office.
I've
seen trial versions of Student Edition installed on OEM computers,
but
when the trial is up you have to buy it just like retail....I
don't know if it has a different EULA....I've never had anyone go
that route.
Glen, aren't there some OEM versions of Office that cannot be
transferred to other PCs?

glee wrote:
Your 2400+ processor probably refers to either an AMD Athlon
2400+ or AMD Sempron 2400+.
The Athlon would be 2000MHz, the Sempron would be 1667MHz
(a.k.a. 2GHz
and 1.6GHz)

Your refurb 3GHz Pentium 4 will run Windows 7 nicely if you ever
go to
it, especially with 4GB of RAM....a good deal on a refurb is
always nice.

Yes, you need to uninstall Office from the old computer, and
then install it on the refurb. Make sure you have the Product
Key to install it before you uninstall....not the serial number
shown in the Office programs when you open them, but the
Product Key.

"MtnLadyinBlackHills1986"
message
Thank you so much, everyone, for your replies. Your input has
answered my
questions and helped me decide how I want to proceed.

After struggling with two viruses (at the same time) late last
year, I've
been very diligent about keeping my computer malware-free. I
also run defrag
and checkdisk frequently. With the newer, larger programs, I
think
my computer doesn't have the capacity I will need in the
future. The
processor
is a "2400+" (24mz?), with 1.5gb of RAM and an 80gb hard drive.

I've decided I don't really need Windows 7 at this time. I
like and am
familiar with Windows XP. After 2014, I may have to
re-evaluate. Thanks for
letting me know XP will be supported till then. I have
purchased a
refurbished Dell desktop from a Microsoft Authorized
Refurbisher on
eBay. It
is a 3ghz computer with an Intel Pentium 4 processor, 4gb of
RAM and a 500gb
hard drive. It comes with a brand new legal Windows XP disk,
so I'll
be
doing a new install of Windows.

Until I get the new computer, I'm not sure if I will be able to
use
my present hard drive to transfer my programs. Thanks for your
suggestions on
that. I'll try to do a transfer to save time, but if I can't,
I'll
re-install my other programs, including my old favorites. Yes,
"Daave", I
really do like them. ;0) But at least with XP, I know they
will work. I
have all my data backed up to an external hard drive.

I do have one last question. Of course, I have Office on this
computer. My
hubby will be taking this computer over and has no need for
Office on
it. I
have the legal Office disk. Do I need to un-install Office on
this
computer
and re-install it on the new one? Would this prevent it from
appearing that
I'm installing Office on mulitple computers?

Thanks again for your help. I've learned a lot here. I'm glad
this time I
haven't come here with a problem. :0)

Sue

:

I wanted to ask a couple questions and ask for your opinions
here.
My
computer is 7 years old. The processor is slow and the memory
has
been
upgraded to the limit. I'm considering purchasing a new
computer.
I'm using
Windows XP Home Edition on this computer. I have heard that
it's hard or
impossible to upgrade XP to the new Windows 7. Is that
correct? Also, I
have some older programs I use frequently that I'm afraid
won't work
on
Windows 7. So I'm looking into buying a computer (used if I
have to) that
has Windows XP.

This is probably a dumb question. Is there a way to move all
my present
computer's information to a new (or newer) one? My hard drive
is an
IDE,
which I've been told is a different type than the newer hard
drives,
so I
probably couldn't just swap out the hard drive. Is there
software
that can
move programs and not just data? If I were to sign up for an
online
backup
service, could I download their backup to a new computer?

I appreciate any replies very much before I proceed. Thank
you so
much.

.

 

[MtnLadyinBlackHills1986]

Thank you both for responding. I plan to stay with Windows XP, for now anyway.

 

[Yousuf Khan]

Thank you both for responding. I plan to stay with Windows XP, for now anyway.

Yes, I understood that from one of your other responses. However, do
consider upgrading to Seven at some point, the technology can now really
take advantage of the modern machines. Namely, 64-bit is probably an
easy choice as all kinks and quirks in running 32-bit under 64-bit are
mostly taken care of now.

Yousuf Khan

 

[MtnLadyinBlackHills1986]

Thank you very much everyone for your opinions and your help. I will
consider getting Windows 7 in the future. I would prefer, at this time in my
life, to stick with what I know how to use.

Daave, I did try to bring up the EULA on my Office software. But I couldn't
find it. I asked "Help" on both Word and Excel, which told me to go to the
"Contents" tab. I couldn't find it. I guess I'll find out when I try to
install my Office.

The computer will be arriving soon and I have my work cut out for me. Wish
me luck! :0)

Sue

 

[Daave]

Daave, I did try to bring up the EULA on my Office software. But I
couldn't find it. I asked "Help" on both Word and Excel, which told
me to go to the "Contents" tab. I couldn't find it. I guess I'll
find out when I try to install my Office.

I'm not sure what you mean by the phrase:

asked "Help"

With my version of Word, there is a menu bar with items such as File,
Edit, View, Insert, etc. The last choice is Help. If I click Help, I see
a drop-down menu. It as this point I can click "About Microsoft Office
Word." There is a box that says "This product is licensed to:" Below the
box is a blue hyperlink that says "View the End-User License Agreement."
Just click on that (assuming you have it, too).