Windows 7

M

microsoft.com

Has anyone tried or used Windows 7 yet.
Seen some cool screen shots of it and heard a lot would like to know how it
is.
Before I ask to join the Beta test for it on MSDN site.

Tony
 
S

Steven

microsoft.com said:
Has anyone tried or used Windows 7 yet.
Seen some cool screen shots of it and heard a lot would like to know how
it is.
Before I ask to join the Beta test for it on MSDN site.

Tony


Same question here.

Steven
 
R

Richard G. Harper

There is no beta test available yet. There is no beta version available
yet. When there is you will find full details on the Microsoft sites.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

Windows 7 should enter beta 1 sometime in the second half of this year if MS
intends to release in early 2010. Until it enters beta 1 downloads will not
be available even to techbeta testers. Its first availability to the public
should be shortly after beta 2 appears and my wild as* guess for that is mid
2009.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

It isn't Microsoft that prevents Windows from using 4GB. It is your mobo
manufacturer who sets the BIOS to reserve memory for memory-mapped IO for
devices like your video card. The amount reserved depends on your hardware
and varies from 2.2GB to 3.5GB across machines I have used.
 
S

Steph

Colin Barnhorst said:
It isn't Microsoft that prevents Windows from using 4GB. It is your mobo
manufacturer who sets the BIOS to reserve memory for memory-mapped IO for
devices like your video card. The amount reserved depends on your
hardware and varies from 2.2GB to 3.5GB across machines I have used.

Actually it isn' t he motherboard either. 4GB is the maximum space that can
be addressed by the 32 bit OS. And some has to be reserved for hardware, so
less than 4GB is available for programs. If you want to see and use more
than 4GB, you need 64 bit.
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

Except that PAE is not enabled on Windows clients, only servers. PAE on a
client is only useful in dealing with certain device driver issues raised by
Data Execution Protection.

See the memory tables at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx

Also, from
http://technet2.microsoft.com/windo...2454-4222-841a-c6d5aa1fc54c1033.mspx?mfr=true
"By default, servers running the 32-bit editions of Windows Server 2003,
Enterprise Edition, and Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition, support
only 32-bit memory addressing and thus are able to access only 4 gigabytes
(GB) of physical memory. However, hardware that offers much larger amounts
of physical memory is available. Both the operating system and many
applications can benefit from using this additional memory.

PAE X86 allows servers running Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition, and
Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition, on a 32-bit hardware platform to
access physical memory beyond 4 GB. To do this, PAE changes the memory
addressing from 32-bit addressing mode to 64-bit addressing mode, allowing
the operating system and high performance drivers and applications access to
the additional physical memory. When using the larger amount of physical
memory made available by PAE X86, operating system performance can be
increased, particularly when the server is hosting multiple applications.
Applications can also have direct access to the physical memory beyond 4 GB
provided they use the Address Windowing Extensions (AWE) API set."
 
M

microsoft.com

To Richard
I dont know what you may have heard but there is a prebeta on the MSDN site
for sub's which I am but it is an M2 only and from what I did with Windows
XP x64 and with all the Longhorn testing and to have to reinstall it a new
one every two weeks and sometimes more often. I really dont want to do that
right now. Dont have time for it. I have seen a lot about it and have the M1
release that the time has run out on. Tested it from the day I got the email
from the MSDN test group.

Lots of new cool things and it is fast.

Tony


Richard G. Harper said:
There is no beta test available yet. There is no beta version available
yet. When there is you will find full details on the Microsoft sites.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/


microsoft.com said:
Has anyone tried or used Windows 7 yet.
Seen some cool screen shots of it and heard a lot would like to know how
it is.
Before I ask to join the Beta test for it on MSDN site.

Tony
 
M

microsoft.com

Wrong


Colin Barnhorst said:
Windows 7 should enter beta 1 sometime in the second half of this year if
MS intends to release in early 2010. Until it enters beta 1 downloads
will not be available even to techbeta testers. Its first availability to
the public should be shortly after beta 2 appears and my wild as* guess
for that is mid 2009.
 
C

Charlie Russel - MVP

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there is no pre-beta on the MSDN site. Or
any other public or semi-public Microsoft site. Any version you might find
is an illegal bootleg, with all the risks that come with such.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


microsoft.com said:
To Richard
I dont know what you may have heard but there is a prebeta on the MSDN
site for sub's which I am but it is an M2 only and from what I did with
Windows XP x64 and with all the Longhorn testing and to have to reinstall
it a new one every two weeks and sometimes more often. I really dont want
to do that right now. Dont have time for it. I have seen a lot about it
and have the M1 release that the time has run out on. Tested it from the
day I got the email from the MSDN test group.

Lots of new cool things and it is fast.

Tony


Richard G. Harper said:
There is no beta test available yet. There is no beta version available
yet. When there is you will find full details on the Microsoft sites.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/


microsoft.com said:
Has anyone tried or used Windows 7 yet.
Seen some cool screen shots of it and heard a lot would like to know how
it is.
Before I ask to join the Beta test for it on MSDN site.

Tony
 
D

Dr. Hackenbush

"with all the risks that come with such."

just like using vista then !


Charlie Russel - MVP said:
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there is no pre-beta on the MSDN site. Or
any other public or semi-public Microsoft site. Any version you might find
is an illegal bootleg, with all the risks that come with such.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


microsoft.com said:
To Richard
I dont know what you may have heard but there is a prebeta on the MSDN
site for sub's which I am but it is an M2 only and from what I did with
Windows XP x64 and with all the Longhorn testing and to have to reinstall
it a new one every two weeks and sometimes more often. I really dont want
to do that right now. Dont have time for it. I have seen a lot about it
and have the M1 release that the time has run out on. Tested it from the
day I got the email from the MSDN test group.

Lots of new cool things and it is fast.

Tony


Richard G. Harper said:
There is no beta test available yet. There is no beta version available
yet. When there is you will find full details on the Microsoft sites.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/


Has anyone tried or used Windows 7 yet.
Seen some cool screen shots of it and heard a lot would like to know
how it is.
Before I ask to join the Beta test for it on MSDN site.

Tony
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

No, just like swapping mp3 files on Kazaa.

Dr. Hackenbush said:
"with all the risks that come with such."

just like using vista then !


Charlie Russel - MVP said:
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but there is no pre-beta on the MSDN site.
Or any other public or semi-public Microsoft site. Any version you might
find is an illegal bootleg, with all the risks that come with such.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


microsoft.com said:
To Richard
I dont know what you may have heard but there is a prebeta on the MSDN
site for sub's which I am but it is an M2 only and from what I did with
Windows XP x64 and with all the Longhorn testing and to have to
reinstall it a new one every two weeks and sometimes more often. I
really dont want to do that right now. Dont have time for it. I have
seen a lot about it and have the M1 release that the time has run out
on. Tested it from the day I got the email from the MSDN test group.

Lots of new cool things and it is fast.

Tony


There is no beta test available yet. There is no beta version
available yet. When there is you will find full details on the
Microsoft sites.

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/


Has anyone tried or used Windows 7 yet.
Seen some cool screen shots of it and heard a lot would like to know
how it is.
Before I ask to join the Beta test for it on MSDN site.

Tony
 

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