Win98SE Explorer Slow While Traversing Upwards in Folder Structure;10 Seconds Extra Boot Time.

A

Anonymous

Hello,
Although I fixed the long pause problem while using Properties in Explorer
on large files, I have noticed another small problem after upgrading from
FE to SE. While using SE Explorer, inside ANY lowest hierarchical
subfolder (deepest) and I click the minus (-) sign of the folder directly
above each subfolder, Explorer pauses for a second before moving to the
next higher folder above it. I am aware of the 9x slow "My Documents"
folder and I do not use them. This occurs in ANY folder on ANY drive.

I switched back to my Win98FE(1) partition, installed Windows Installer
2.0, and it does not have this problem. In FE while doing the above,
movement is instantaneous when moving upwards in a folder structure. I'm
not sure why this 1 second pause exists in SE. It might have something to
do with memory usage. Because I did an upgrade, all the drivers are the
same. Does anyone know why SE takes this extra second while moving upwards
in a folder structure?

Also, booting in SE takes an extra 10 seconds while my mouse cursor has an
hourglass on it. FE does not have this extra 10 seconds and there is no
extra hourglass time. In SE, I removed the Audio and Video drivers, using
only the M$ generic video drivers, and it still has this extra 10 second
boot hourglass time. Does anyone know what exactly SE is doing during this
time?

This are my system components. The system is stable and works correctly.
Unless otherwise stated, all drivers were used successfully for years with FE:
-----------------------------------------------
Abit KG7-RAID (RAID disabled) with last DM BIOS version
with embedded RAID HPT 37x BIOS v2.0.1024
Promise Ultra66 Controller with v2.00.0.29 drivers
Asus Geforce 2 GTS 64 MB with 6.31c drivers reinstalled
1 GB DDR266 RAM memory
Hercules GTXP 6.1 with v6.09 drivers.
FE uses v4.1.
AMD Windows 98/98SE AGP Miniport Driver v4.8
VIA 4.37 4-in-1 Drivers
VIA Bus Master (miniport) PCI IDE Driver v3.01.14
Good for all O/S's.
Microsoft Disk Cache "[vcache]" maxed to 115,000 KB.
"Chunk Size" set to 2048.
Computer Role optimized using CacheMan v3.8 (no TSR)
SYSTEM.INI: [386Enh] ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1
Internet Explorer 6 SP1 installed for SE.
FE has IE 5.5 SP1. Will test FE with IE 6 SP1 soon.
Task Manager OFF
Norton Anti-Virus Auto-Protect not loaded
All partitions were defragged.
SE Registry was SCANREG/OPT in MS-DOS mode.
DirectX v8.1 (I do not play games on this PC).
Microsoft Intellipoint Drivers v4.12 (FE has 4.0).
 
K

Kelly

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Anonymous said:
Hello,
Although I fixed the long pause problem while using Properties in Explorer
on large files, I have noticed another small problem after upgrading from
FE to SE. While using SE Explorer, inside ANY lowest hierarchical
subfolder (deepest) and I click the minus (-) sign of the folder directly
above each subfolder, Explorer pauses for a second before moving to the
next higher folder above it. I am aware of the 9x slow "My Documents"
folder and I do not use them. This occurs in ANY folder on ANY drive.

I switched back to my Win98FE(1) partition, installed Windows Installer
2.0, and it does not have this problem. In FE while doing the above,
movement is instantaneous when moving upwards in a folder structure. I'm
not sure why this 1 second pause exists in SE. It might have something to
do with memory usage. Because I did an upgrade, all the drivers are the
same. Does anyone know why SE takes this extra second while moving
upwards
in a folder structure?

Also, booting in SE takes an extra 10 seconds while my mouse cursor has an
hourglass on it. FE does not have this extra 10 seconds and there is no
extra hourglass time. In SE, I removed the Audio and Video drivers, using
only the M$ generic video drivers, and it still has this extra 10 second
boot hourglass time. Does anyone know what exactly SE is doing during
this
time?

This are my system components. The system is stable and works correctly.
Unless otherwise stated, all drivers were used successfully for years with
FE:
-----------------------------------------------
Abit KG7-RAID (RAID disabled) with last DM BIOS version
with embedded RAID HPT 37x BIOS v2.0.1024
Promise Ultra66 Controller with v2.00.0.29 drivers
Asus Geforce 2 GTS 64 MB with 6.31c drivers reinstalled
1 GB DDR266 RAM memory
Hercules GTXP 6.1 with v6.09 drivers.
FE uses v4.1.
AMD Windows 98/98SE AGP Miniport Driver v4.8
VIA 4.37 4-in-1 Drivers
VIA Bus Master (miniport) PCI IDE Driver v3.01.14
Good for all O/S's.
Microsoft Disk Cache "[vcache]" maxed to 115,000 KB.
"Chunk Size" set to 2048.
Computer Role optimized using CacheMan v3.8 (no TSR)
SYSTEM.INI: [386Enh] ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1
Internet Explorer 6 SP1 installed for SE.
FE has IE 5.5 SP1. Will test FE with IE 6 SP1 soon.
Task Manager OFF
Norton Anti-Virus Auto-Protect not loaded
All partitions were defragged.
SE Registry was SCANREG/OPT in MS-DOS mode.
DirectX v8.1 (I do not play games on this PC).
Microsoft Intellipoint Drivers v4.12 (FE has 4.0).

Hello,
I found the solution here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...lorer+file+properties++long+OR+delay+OR+read+
The MSISIP.DLL v2.0.2600.2 has a bug in it. You must download MSISIP.DLL
v2.0.2600.0 such as from here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;836013

Do NOT double-click to install the install.exe file you download.
Instead, right-click to open install.exe with a ZIP utility such as
WINZIP.EXE and extract InstMsiW.exe from it. Right-click and open
InstMsiW.exe again with WINZIP. Now you can extract MSISIP.DLL
v2.0.2600.0. You should be able to simply drop it into the
C:\Windows\System folder, replacing the defective file. If your system
is not fixed, reboot. You may want to keep the defective file instead of
replacing it. I suggest you keep/ZIP both versions. If you cannot
replace the MSISIP.DLL file in Explorer, you will need to replace it in
MS-DOS mode.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
G

George Hester

What the heck is FE and SE? I know Windows 98SE and question should probably be asked in:

microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion.

What is FE?

--
George Hester
_________________________________
Anonymous said:
Hello,
Although I fixed the long pause problem while using Properties in Explorer
on large files, I have noticed another small problem after upgrading from
FE to SE. While using SE Explorer, inside ANY lowest hierarchical
subfolder (deepest) and I click the minus (-) sign of the folder directly
above each subfolder, Explorer pauses for a second before moving to the
next higher folder above it. I am aware of the 9x slow "My Documents"
folder and I do not use them. This occurs in ANY folder on ANY drive.

I switched back to my Win98FE(1) partition, installed Windows Installer
2.0, and it does not have this problem. In FE while doing the above,
movement is instantaneous when moving upwards in a folder structure. I'm
not sure why this 1 second pause exists in SE. It might have something to
do with memory usage. Because I did an upgrade, all the drivers are the
same. Does anyone know why SE takes this extra second while moving upwards
in a folder structure?

Also, booting in SE takes an extra 10 seconds while my mouse cursor has an
hourglass on it. FE does not have this extra 10 seconds and there is no
extra hourglass time. In SE, I removed the Audio and Video drivers, using
only the M$ generic video drivers, and it still has this extra 10 second
boot hourglass time. Does anyone know what exactly SE is doing during this
time?

This are my system components. The system is stable and works correctly.
Unless otherwise stated, all drivers were used successfully for years with FE:
-----------------------------------------------
Abit KG7-RAID (RAID disabled) with last DM BIOS version
with embedded RAID HPT 37x BIOS v2.0.1024
Promise Ultra66 Controller with v2.00.0.29 drivers
Asus Geforce 2 GTS 64 MB with 6.31c drivers reinstalled
1 GB DDR266 RAM memory
Hercules GTXP 6.1 with v6.09 drivers.
FE uses v4.1.
AMD Windows 98/98SE AGP Miniport Driver v4.8
VIA 4.37 4-in-1 Drivers
VIA Bus Master (miniport) PCI IDE Driver v3.01.14
Good for all O/S's.
Microsoft Disk Cache "[vcache]" maxed to 115,000 KB.
"Chunk Size" set to 2048.
Computer Role optimized using CacheMan v3.8 (no TSR)
SYSTEM.INI: [386Enh] ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1
Internet Explorer 6 SP1 installed for SE.
FE has IE 5.5 SP1. Will test FE with IE 6 SP1 soon.
Task Manager OFF
Norton Anti-Virus Auto-Protect not loaded
All partitions were defragged.
SE Registry was SCANREG/OPT in MS-DOS mode.
DirectX v8.1 (I do not play games on this PC).
Microsoft Intellipoint Drivers v4.12 (FE has 4.0).

Hello,
I found the solution here:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...lorer+file+properties++long+OR+delay+OR+read+


The MSISIP.DLL v2.0.2600.2 has a bug in it. You must download
MSISIP.DLL v2.0.2600.0 such as from here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;836013

Do NOT double-click to install the install.exe file you download.
Instead, right-click to open install.exe with a ZIP utility such as
WINZIP.EXE and extract InstMsiW.exe from it. Right-click and open
InstMsiW.exe again with WINZIP. Now you can extract MSISIP.DLL
v2.0.2600.0. You should be able to simply drop it into the
C:\Windows\System folder, replacing the defective file. If your system
is not fixed, reboot. You may want to keep the defective file instead
of replacing it. I suggest you keep/ZIP both versions. If you cannot
replace the MSISIP.DLL file in Explorer, you will need to replace it in
MS-DOS mode.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
M

Malke

George said:
What the heck is FE and SE? I know Windows 98SE and question should
probably be asked in:

microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion.

What is FE?
Click to expand...
FE = First Edition
SE = Second Edition

Malke
 
Y

Yves Leclerc

People just usually call it Windows 98 and Windows 98SE.

Never seen it called that before. Thanks.
 
K

Ken Blake

In
Yves Leclerc said:
People just usually call it Windows 98 and Windows 98SE.
Click to expand...


Yes. When Windows 98 first came out, there was only the single
version, so there was no need to call it something like "First
Edition." When 98SE came out, *some* people started calling the
original version 98FE, but, unlike 98SE, that's not an official
name. The two really should be called just 98 and 98SE, as you
say.
 

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