win xp admin nightmare

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vern

Spent 5 hrs last night on a clients HP machine with win xp, trying to
take back control of the system. She is convinced that she was
sabataged by an angry son-in-law, which is probably true. She uses
this for her buisness and does not have a backup of her data (she is
doing this today), but she doesn't even know where everything is
because files and folders have been moved by the son-in law, so a
format and re-install is not an option yet. Here are some of the
symtoms and problems:

1. Installed AVG and scanned, found 2 versions of downloader and one
backdoor. 2 of these were deleted by AVG and one was quarintined

2. tried to install adaware to the default directory twice and failed
both times, installed to c:\lavasoft ok. Cleaned all the stuff it
found ok.

3. Updated and ran Spybot which was previously installed, found and
cleaned 132 items.

4. Tried to run Trend Micro on line scan and it would just hang at
installing the engine, no error messages.

5. She has several malware folders in her program files folder,
memwatcher, Internetoptimizer, ictbar and others. tried to delete
these and received access denied message.

6. booted to safe mode and tried to delete again and received the
same nessage.

7. Checked permissions and ownership of these folders and found that
the owner was S-1-5-21-2190867815-etc. with all options to change it
were disabled. She is supposedly logged on as administrator and no
other user accounts show up in user manager.

8. Went to the parent folder and took ownership of it and all
subdirerctories, this apparently worked on some folders and not on
others, they are still owned by S-1-5-21-... is this a deleted admin
user? if so, does anyone know how to get rid of it.

9. Although she is logged on as "administrator" she apparently
doesn't have full admin rights, when you check the individual file
permissions (even on the ones that she owns) she can't change them
because they are greyed out.

I've seen lots of messed up systems but never anything like this. If
we can get full admin control I think I can get it cleaned up.

Another problem is she doesn't have any restore disks or operating
system cd. This is a HP machine less than one year old. They (HP)
created a restore partition (FAT32) with the I386 folder on it, does
anyone have experience with doing a clean install form this HP
partition, I'm not sure I trust it.

any help would be much appreciated.

Vern Davenport
http://www.vernscomputerservices.com
 
C

Carey Frisch [MVP]

HP Pavilion computers have a hidden partition which contains the files necessary
to restore your PC to its original factory condition. Please read and follow these
instructions carefully:

HP Pavilion Desktop PCs - Performing a Full System Recovery in Microsoft Windows XP
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/famiDocument?product=12455&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=bph07145

Note: HP offers both a "destructive" and "non-destructive" method....use the
"non-destructive" method.

Note: You must return your HP computer to the exact same hardware configuration
as it was originally. Disconnect all peripheral hardware devices except for the monitor,
keyboard and mouse.

HP Instant Support Professional Edition
http://instantsupport.hp.com/euserv/jsp/hpinstantsupport.jsp

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

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| Spent 5 hrs last night on a clients HP machine with win xp, trying to
| take back control of the system. She is convinced that she was
| sabataged by an angry son-in-law, which is probably true. She uses
| this for her buisness and does not have a backup of her data (she is
| doing this today), but she doesn't even know where everything is
| because files and folders have been moved by the son-in law, so a
| format and re-install is not an option yet. Here are some of the
| symtoms and problems:
|
| 1. Installed AVG and scanned, found 2 versions of downloader and one
| backdoor. 2 of these were deleted by AVG and one was quarintined
|
| 2. tried to install adaware to the default directory twice and failed
| both times, installed to c:\lavasoft ok. Cleaned all the stuff it
| found ok.
|
| 3. Updated and ran Spybot which was previously installed, found and
| cleaned 132 items.
|
| 4. Tried to run Trend Micro on line scan and it would just hang at
| installing the engine, no error messages.
|
| 5. She has several malware folders in her program files folder,
| memwatcher, Internetoptimizer, ictbar and others. tried to delete
| these and received access denied message.
|
| 6. booted to safe mode and tried to delete again and received the
| same nessage.
|
| 7. Checked permissions and ownership of these folders and found that
| the owner was S-1-5-21-2190867815-etc. with all options to change it
| were disabled. She is supposedly logged on as administrator and no
| other user accounts show up in user manager.
|
| 8. Went to the parent folder and took ownership of it and all
| subdirerctories, this apparently worked on some folders and not on
| others, they are still owned by S-1-5-21-... is this a deleted admin
| user? if so, does anyone know how to get rid of it.
|
| 9. Although she is logged on as "administrator" she apparently
| doesn't have full admin rights, when you check the individual file
| permissions (even on the ones that she owns) she can't change them
| because they are greyed out.
|
| I've seen lots of messed up systems but never anything like this. If
| we can get full admin control I think I can get it cleaned up.
|
| Another problem is she doesn't have any restore disks or operating
| system cd. This is a HP machine less than one year old. They (HP)
| created a restore partition (FAT32) with the I386 folder on it, does
| anyone have experience with doing a clean install form this HP
| partition, I'm not sure I trust it.
|
| any help would be much appreciated.
|
| Vern Davenport
 
V

vern

Thanks for the info, but
Does using the non-destructive method over write all file and directory
permissions, if it doesn't then this will not solve her problem. We have to
try to recover her data before we try either method.
also what does the poor HP customer do when a hard drive dies, which happens
all the time?
 

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