Will not boot to dos for Ghost or Drive Image

D

Don Hamilton

Since the latest security updates XP sp2 will now not boot to Dos for Ghost
or Drive Image. Both get many errors from reboot and will not run. I even
tried the Ms Dos version from Ghost 2003 and it will not open. Any ideas??
Thanks Don
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Don said:
Since the latest security updates XP sp2 will now not boot to Dos for
Ghost or Drive Image. Both get many errors from reboot and will not run. I
even tried the Ms Dos version from Ghost 2003 and it will not open. Any
ideas??

Uhm.. I do not understand.
You mean you cannot boot to DOS via another partition, floppy diskette or
CD/DVD?

Windows XP never had DOS.
 
D

Don Hamilton

Shenan Stanley said:
Uhm.. I do not understand.
You mean you cannot boot to DOS via another partition, floppy diskette or
CD/DVD?

Windows XP never had DOS.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
Yes it will not boot from a disk. I tried both pc dos and ms dos from Ghost.
With Drive Image when it tries to reboot I get a error message (Cannot
prepare machine for reboot. Exit code 17. You must run drive image from dos
or from rescue disks). When I try to run from rescue disks I get many
different errors and it will not run. I can go to command prompt from
windows. My PC is running fine and boots fine but I was backing up.
 
M

Mike Lynch

I do believe he means that the pc will not boot from the
ghost boot
floppy. Mine is fully patched sp2 etc XPpro and it will boot
quite
happily from my ghost boot disc. Mine is Norton Ghost 2002.

I ghost my working partitions to a second HD for security.

Mike L.


Shenan Stanley said:
Uhm.. I do not understand.
You mean you cannot boot to DOS via another partition,
floppy diskette or
CD/DVD?

Windows XP never had DOS.

--
<- Shenan ->
--
The information is provided "as is", it is suggested you
research for
yourself before you take any advice - you are the one
ultimately
responsible for your actions/problems/solutions. Know
what you are
getting into before you jump in with both feet.
Yes it will not boot from a disk. I tried both pc dos and ms
dos from Ghost.
With Drive Image when it tries to reboot I get a error
message (Cannot
prepare machine for reboot. Exit code 17. You must run drive
image from dos
or from rescue disks). When I try to run from rescue disks I
get many
different errors and it will not run. I can go to command
prompt from
windows. My PC is running fine and boots fine but I was
backing up.
 
B

Bob Harris

GHOST 2003 can be run in two modes, one you execute from within XP, and the
other you execute directly form a boot floppy. The mode running from within
XP is less reliable, since it has to set up a batch file that plays a
virtual partition. On a bad day that can leave the PC unbootable from the
hard drive. If you have worked yourself into that corner, I recall reading
that Symantec had a simple (DOS-based) batch program that could fix things.

But, run from a DOS floppy, GHOST should work, even if you have a bad hard
drive, or no hard drive. If things are bad enough, GHOST will not be able
to "see" the hard drive or deal with it, but GHOST itself will still run.
Of course, this assumes that you have the fisrt boot device to be the
floppy. Some PCs come form the factory with the CD as the first device, and
so they will ignore a GHOST floppy. You can make the floppy the first boot
device by going into the BIOS setup, BOOT tab, and changeing the order of
boot devices. I recommned floppy, then CD, then hard drive.

It is possible that the GHOST floppy is bad. You might try a random win98
or ME boot floppy and see whether that can boot the PC. Such floppies are
available from www.bootdisk.com. If the hard drive is formatted as FAT32, a
DOS floppy should be able to see it. To change form A:\ to C:\, just type
C: at the DOS prompt. But, if the har drive is NTFS, DOS will not see it,
unless you run special drivers. The read/copy drivers are free from
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfsdos.shtml

By the way, the XP CDROM (retail version) is a bootable CD and can be used
to run the XP recovery console. This has some ability to fix things, such
as master boot records and file systems. Consider running CHKDSK C: /R from
the recovery console, it may help things. For other recovery console items,
type HELP within the recovery console. For info hoe to start the recovery
console, see the following links:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxprcons.htm

http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy33.htm (near bottom)

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_rec.htm
 
D

Don Hamilton

Bob Harris said:
GHOST 2003 can be run in two modes, one you execute from within XP, and
the other you execute directly form a boot floppy. The mode running from
within XP is less reliable, since it has to set up a batch file that plays
a virtual partition. On a bad day that can leave the PC unbootable from
the hard drive. If you have worked yourself into that corner, I recall
reading that Symantec had a simple (DOS-based) batch program that could
fix things.

But, run from a DOS floppy, GHOST should work, even if you have a bad hard
drive, or no hard drive. If things are bad enough, GHOST will not be able
to "see" the hard drive or deal with it, but GHOST itself will still run.
Of course, this assumes that you have the fisrt boot device to be the
floppy. Some PCs come form the factory with the CD as the first device,
and so they will ignore a GHOST floppy. You can make the floppy the first
boot device by going into the BIOS setup, BOOT tab, and changeing the
order of boot devices. I recommned floppy, then CD, then hard drive.

It is possible that the GHOST floppy is bad. You might try a random win98
or ME boot floppy and see whether that can boot the PC. Such floppies are
available from www.bootdisk.com. If the hard drive is formatted as FAT32,
a DOS floppy should be able to see it. To change form A:\ to C:\, just
type C: at the DOS prompt. But, if the har drive is NTFS, DOS will not
see it, unless you run special drivers. The read/copy drivers are free
from http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfsdos.shtml

By the way, the XP CDROM (retail version) is a bootable CD and can be used
to run the XP recovery console. This has some ability to fix things, such
as master boot records and file systems. Consider running CHKDSK C: /R
from the recovery console, it may help things. For other recovery console
items, type HELP within the recovery console. For info hoe to start the
recovery console, see the following links:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/wxprcons.htm

http://www.xxcopy.com/xxcopy33.htm (near bottom)

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/win_xp_rec.htm
Thanks for the help. I believe the problem is in the getting my cd and dvd
available during the reboot. I am able to reboot to a prompt from a 98 start
up disk. My c: is a fat 32 but the drives I was backing up are ntfs. I have
used Drive Image 5.0 with no problems but it will not reboot. I am still
learning ghost. I am getting closer.
Don
 

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