Why Only On One PC?

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Alias

Bruce Chambers said:
Greetings --

Let's put the responsibility where it lies, shall we? We
bonafide, honest customers are not inconvenienced by WPA. We're
inconvenienced by the acts of the software pirates who have made WPA
and other copy protection schemes necessary.

Are you serious? Regardless of the reason, WPA is an inconvenience for
bonafide users and isn't one for users of cracked versions.
Just as we
inconvenienced by having to lock our homes and cars to keep common
thieves out -- it's not the manufacturer of the locks and automobiles
who are the root cause of the inconvenience, it's the dishonesty of
others. Just as we resent having to pay taxes to keep convicted
criminals behind bars.


Bruce Chambers

Gosh, so when is Linux coming up with a WPA?

LOL!

Alias
 
J

Jone Doe

<gigantic snip of whining>

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.
 
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Alias

Jone Doe said:
<gigantic snip of whining>

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use one of
the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an operating
system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se, but rented or
leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the terms of use of the
system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who invented the internet after
all, and come up with a system that uses binary codes of zeros and ones to
do something useful, copyright it, and sell it.

Then why does Microsoft call it a "product"??? A banana is a product, isn't
it? One pays for a product and one can do whatever one wants to unless it's
computer software? And don't tell me they don't call their software a
product rather than a license because I just read on my legitimate copy of
XP Pro where there is an email for *product* support, not *rental* support.

No wonder MS has never taken anyone to court; they'd lose.

Alias
 
U

Unknown

You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license
and use it on several cars?
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

Jone said:
<gigantic snip of whining>

Windows XP operating system is not like an orange, or a banana to use
one of the more ridiculous examples from an earlier post. It is an
operating system, an intellectual property that is not sold per se,
but rented or leased to be used in one system. If you don't like the
terms of use of the system, don't use it. Get with Al Gore, who
invented the internet after all, and come up with a system that uses
binary codes of zeros and ones to do something useful, copyright it,
and sell it.

Al Gore?! You mean Al Gore as in the ex-vice president?! I don't *THINK* so!
The internet started life in 1969 as ARPANET (Advanced Research Projects
Agency NETwork) which went live in October of that year (my US history is a
little hazy, but I believe Richard Nixon was president at the time. Al Gore
would have been 21 at the time. In '69 he was at Harvard studying politics).

The WWW, OTOH, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, a Brit working at CERN (the
European Particle Physics lab in Geneva) in 1980. He invented HTTP and HTML
in 1990. For more info, see http://www.ibiblio.org/pioneers/lee.html.
 
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Alias

Unknown said:
You are doing nothing but arguing semantics. Do you buy one automobile license
and use it on several cars?

A car is a product. MS says their software is a product. Automobile licenses
are not products.

Alias
 
U

Unknown

By the way, automobile license plates are a product maufactured in most states
by the prison population. Do you transfer the plate to multiple cars?
 
U

Unknown

Yes indeed, I would really like to know what your lawyer has to say about
this. Please get his verbiage and post it here.
 
A

Alias

Unknown said:
Like I said semantics. Why don't you ask a lawyer?

You don't want to know what my lawyer has to say about this. It's *not*
semantics. Words have definitions, both in a connotative and dennotative
sense.

Alias
 
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Alias

Unknown said:
By the way, automobile license plates are a product maufactured in most states
by the prison population. Do you transfer the plate to multiple cars?

Using your comparision, the driver would be the computer and yes, more than
one person can drive a car.

Alias
 
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Alias

Unknown said:
Yes indeed, I would really like to know what your lawyer has to say about
this. Please get his verbiage and post it here.

Trust me, you don't want to hear it.

Alias
 
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beamish

Alias said:
Yeah, kinda like a streetwalker.

Alias
Hello, I disagree with the statements in several respects.
1. Any company manufacturing, selling products in the U.S. needs to
conform to U.S. regulations and laws concerning that product, these
regulations and laws can and are changed for many reasons.
2. Each state has its own regulations and laws. Some are superseded
and some are not by federal law.
3. Then there is private litigation, which includes class action law
suits.
Microsoft has agreed to play in this ballpark. If the rules change to
benefit the consumer such as "the O.S. can be placed on two units" if
Microsoft does not want to follow this law then Microsoft can pick up
its marbles and stop selling in the U.S.
Most large companies have a lock on #'s1 and 2 "sounds like bodily
functions",
reason for the lock access to politicos. Both state and federal.
The #3 item should be considered the easiest of the three.
This is being changed by the large and small companies and their
political allies and will not be as fruitful as it once was in the
recent past.
I like to think that powerful companies "Goliath" can and do meet a
"David" once in a while.
Following is not germane: Microsoft is one of the few companies that
provides a extremely good level of support.
I know that some of the above is implied in the post concerning this
subject.

Take Care.
beamish.
 
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Alex Nichol

Just wondering why doesn't Microsoft let you install
Windows XP and Office 2003 on two PC's? I think they
should at least let you install them on two PC's. They
let you do it for one desktop on one laptop right?

The do not for Windows and never have. There is a specific concession
for *retail* copies of Office, only, to install on a desktop and that
desktop's owners' personal laptop.

As to why - that is their commercial judgement. You may not like it, or
even think it sound from their viewpoint, but you have to go along or
else not use the product
 
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Rustler_Gates

Can't agree with that Bruce. I moved a Nic card from one slot to another,
then came that nasty notice that I had to authenticate again, and as you
no doubt know, the new authentication did not go through at all! It required a phone
call and a waste of about five minutes time to call, explain, then copy and install a
loooooong string of numbers. Excuse me, but like so
many others who have shelled out a gob of hard cash, that tends to tweak
one's jaw a little bit. After that, and many thanks to one who shall remain nameless, I
learned to use Vol ID in a manner that avoids that hassle.

You and the others who derive a living from installing, fixing, selling or trouble
shooting ms software, to the tune of about $125 an hour I'd guess,
are not seeing the forest for the trees.
 
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Plato

Alias said:
Are you serious? Regardless of the reason, WPA is an inconvenience for
bonafide users and isn't one for users of cracked versions.

It appears that you have not fully comprehended Bruce's post. Get off
your bong for a few days and read it again.
 
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Alias

Plato said:
It appears that you have not fully comprehended Bruce's post. Get off
your bong for a few days and read it again.

Hm, an ad hominem attack. Can't you do better than that?

Alias
 
J

Jone Doe

Miss Perspicacia Tick said:
Al Gore?! You mean Al Gore as in the ex-vice president?! I don't *THINK* so!
The internet started life in 1969 as ARPANET (Advanced Research Projects
Agency NETwork) which went live in October of that year (my US history is a
little hazy, but I believe Richard Nixon was president at the time. Al Gore
would have been 21 at the time. In '69 he was at Harvard studying politics).

The WWW, OTOH, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, a Brit working at CERN (the
European Particle Physics lab in Geneva) in 1980. He invented HTTP and HTML
in 1990. For more info, see http://www.ibiblio.org/pioneers/lee.html.

http://www.governmentexecutive.com/dailyfed/0399/031299t1.htm

March 12, 1999
Did Al Gore invent the Internet?

By Rebecca S. Weiner, National Journal's
Technology Daily




House Majority Leader Richard Armey, R-Texas, lampooned Vice President Al
Gore Thursday for telling an interviewer that he "took the initiative in
creating the Internet."

"If the Vice President created the Internet then I created the Interstate
highway system," Armey said in a statement released by his office Thursday.
"Both were begun during the Eisenhower Administration and I think Ike
actually deserves a little credit here."

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in
creating the Internet," Gore said during an interview with CNN's Wolf
Blitzer, according to a CNN transcript.

Gore, who leads for the Democratic presidential nomination, has made
technology his trademark issue.

"Vice President Gore first popularized the term 'Information Superhighway'
more than 20 years ago and stands on the shoulders of great thinkers who
created the foundation for what is now the Internet," a Gore spokeswoman
said.

In fact, both men have rewritten a bit of history.

The precursor to the Internet, a Defense Department project called ARPANet,
was begun in 1969 under Richard Nixon's administration. That was seven years
before Gore was first elected to the House of Representatives.

The Interstate Highway system was indeed begun when Eisenhower was
president - and one of its prime architects was Gore's father, Sen. Albert
Gore, Sr. D-Tenn.
 
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Danny Mingledorff

Miss Perspicacia Tick said:
Al Gore?! You mean Al Gore as in the ex-vice president?! I don't *THINK* so!
The internet started life in 1969 as ARPANET (Advanced Research Projects
Agency NETwork) which went live in October of that year (my US history is a
little hazy, but I believe Richard Nixon was president at the time. Al Gore
would have been 21 at the time. In '69 he was at Harvard studying politics).

The WWW, OTOH, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee, a Brit working at CERN (the
European Particle Physics lab in Geneva) in 1980. He invented HTTP and HTML
in 1990. For more info, see http://www.ibiblio.org/pioneers/lee.html.

You forgot to add that Al was also inspiring Erich Segal to write "Love
Story".

....danny
 

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