Which IE do you recommend -- 5.5 vs. 6?

[Steven]

My apologies if this is OT here -- just politely redirect me elsewhere
if it is.

I am currently using IE 5.5 on my Win98SE computer for those web sites
that my dearly-beloved Netscape 7.1 crashes on, and I am so used to the
Netscape 7.1 tabbed browser, I was wondering does IE 6.x have a tabbed
browser? Or is there another non-IE browser closer to IE that will
handle the web sites that Netscape can't handle and then I don't have to
worry about updating IE?

With the problems I am having lately with IE, I'd say none of them but
then, with me having problems with it, perhaps I am biased ;o). If I
had to choose, I'd take 5.5 over 6.0 any day.

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

 

[Aaron]

Nononono, Netscape is based on Mozilla, but just adds a bunch of
silly features slowing it down and making it (IMHO) annoying to work
with.

It's not that bad (I think there's this Aol thing that is hard to
remove??). Switch if you want, but it won't be a miracle cure for the
problems you (the orignal poster) posted

Really, try Mozilla, I think it will work as perfectly for you
as it does for me. Also, it has better support for webstandards than
IE.

Netscape 7.1 has the same support for webstandards as Mozilla and that
didn't help the original poster, so switching isn't going to cure that

 

[Wald]

Netscape 7.1 has the same support for webstandards as Mozilla
and that didn't help the original poster, so switching isn't
going to cure that

I'm actually curious for the actual websites that the OP is unable to
view with Netscape. Up until now, I haven't had any trouble with any
website using Mozilla...

Regards,
Wald

 

[Wald]

I would upgrade IE 5.5 to 6 as a given due to security issues.

Netscape, Mozilla and Firebird all work well but all still have
the same memory leak. I'm using Netscape 7.1 now. This memory
leak has been here for ages and is something that REALLY needs
to be fixed.

You should try the latest release of Mozilla, 1.5. I've seen
mentioning of a fixed memory leak in this release, that might very
well be the one you are talking about.

Just my 2 cents,
Wald

 

[John Corliss]

I'm actually curious for the actual websites that the OP is unable to
view with Netscape. Up until now, I haven't had any trouble with any
website using Mozilla...

Here's two that I've noted:

www.microsoft.com (downloads sometimes don't work when using Mozilla,
also various graphics don't show)

http://www.msnbc.com/m/v/video_news.asp (when you open a video, you
can't select "Full Screen" when using Mozilla.)

 

[John Corliss]

With the problems I am having lately with IE, I'd say none of them but
then, with me having problems with it, perhaps I am biased ;o). If I
had to choose, I'd take 5.5 over 6.0 any day.

I upgraded to 6.0 because unlike 5.5, it allows you to delete all
cookies in "Internet Options". However, I rarely use the program
because I prefer Mozilla (1.5 Final).

 

[omega]

Some sites require activex, which no browser in the world besides IE
support.

For the record, that is not inaccurate.

http://www.scitrav.com/1X/

URL just for the activex point; Science Traveler's browser is payware.

 

[omega]

this damn typo reverses my whole message. post-send correction.

not inaccurate.

_not accurate_

 

[omega]

You might try Opera too.

Note that the OP should be expecting freeware recommendations.
Opera is available only as adware-extremus; or payware.

 

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

I'm actually curious for the actual websites that the OP is unable to
view with Netscape. Up until now, I haven't had any trouble with any
website using Mozilla...

Well, my latest thing is that Movielink.com makes it crash, so you could
try that.

 

[Aaron]

Note that the OP should be expecting freeware recommendations.
Opera is available only as adware-extremus; or payware.

Nice to see the net cops are alive and well.



Aaron (my email is not munged!)

 

[Spacey Spade]

[snip]

I'll get back to your original question. All the IE-based tabbed browsers
are dependant upon the IE rendering engine. As for IE 5.5 or 6.0, I have
upgraded about 20 computers to 6.0 and have not had a problem yet. However
there are plenty of people who have had a problem upgrading. Try upgrading
and keeping the previous configuration for a possible rollback if necessary.

Why upgrade? Is 6.0 really any better than 5.5, or 5.01 for that
matter?

 

[dszady]

Nice to see the net cops are alive and well.

Nice to see the trolls are still here.
Get a real sig.

 

[Bjorn Simonsen]

Nice to see the net cops are alive and well.

Please - those buzzwords. Net cops, net nazi, and whatnot. When you
"police the police", as you do here (and now I do too), use of
buzzwords like "net cops" may leave the impression you have some
privileged position in this. You don't (nor do I).
As I am sure you know, Usenet is self regulating. If you don't like
someone advising against OT - then Usenet is not for you. If you think
someone's definition of OT is to wide, their on-topic definition to
narrow, say so. But stop using "buzzwords" pretending your are
anything but a <insert buzzword> your self when you do. Or to quote
your own advise from a previous message: "You don't fight fire with
fire in newsgroups, that's just asking for trouble." Name calling,
labeling someone as "net cop" and whatnot, often has the same effect.


All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen

 

[Wald]

Well, my latest thing is that Movielink.com makes it crash, so
you could try that.

Well, it doesn't crash on me, but Movielink.com tells me the
following:

"Thanks for your interest in Movielink, the leading source for movies
delivered directly over the Internet. We want you to enjoy our
powerful movie download experience, but it is presently unavailable
to users outside of the United States."

So I'm sorry, but I can't help you with that. I'm just a European

Kind regards,
Wald

 

[Aaron]

Please - those buzzwords. Net cops, net nazi, and whatnot. When you
"police the police", as you do here (and now I do too), use of
buzzwords like "net cops" may leave the impression you have some
privileged position in this. You don't (nor do I).
As I am sure you know, Usenet is self regulating. If you don't like
someone advising against OT - then Usenet is not for you. If you think
someone's definition of OT is to wide, their on-topic definition to
narrow, say so. But stop using "buzzwords" pretending your are
anything but a <insert buzzword> your self when you do. Or to quote
your own advise from a previous message: "You don't fight fire with
fire in newsgroups, that's just asking for trouble." Name calling,
labeling someone as "net cop" and whatnot, often has the same effect.

Actually fighting fire with fire would go like this

"You $%^%^%$, you don't own the net, this is a alt group, there is no
Charter, I'm not bound by your rules! I'm sick and tired of you lording
over the newbies, And you guys are all the same when anyone disagrees
with you, you label them a troll "

You are right, I shouldn't have used the word netcop, I was thinking of
writing JC wannable, but that's even worse

Seriously, one tiny mention of Opera right at the end, and the fact that
I treated the question as slightly OT (stated in the post), would I
thought be sufficent to avoid any problems, but apparantly not. My bad.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen

Aaron (my email is not munged!)

 

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

Well, it doesn't crash on me, but Movielink.com tells me the
following:

"Thanks for your interest in Movielink, the leading source for movies
delivered directly over the Internet. We want you to enjoy our
powerful movie download experience, but it is presently unavailable
to users outside of the United States."

WHOOPS! (laughing) Sorry about that.

 

[omega]

Nice to see the net cops are alive and well.

The poster asked for a tabbed interface for MSIE, for which there are
available good freeware options. The poster asked as well for something
like Netscape, but more evolved; in other words needing to know about the
Mozilla developments, a fully freeware landscape. There was absolutely
nothing to indicate the least need for a payware route. Yet you felt
compelled to slide Opera in there, with no reason or justification.

What was striking was two-part. First, not merely that you abruptly
insert the recommendations for a payware and/or adware-extremus. Then
that particularly you don't even present what it is. Leaving any casual
reader to believe it freeware.

When you have recommended non-freeware in a freeware context, as if it
were indeed freeware, and someone then comes in clarifying that it is
indeed _not_ freeware -- you then call that the work of a "net cop."
(Such a notion of "net cop" is so bizarre, I don't even need to comment.)

You have brought doubt upon yourself, in this thread for one, as to whether
you are a poster even worth reading, by anyone interested in reliable
freeware recommendations.

 

[donutbandit]

Why upgrade? Is 6.0 really any better than 5.5, or 5.01 for that
matter?

IE 5 is so full of holes and exploits that Microsoft wants to pretend it
never happened.

Back when I still used IE, I noticed a definite better performance after
upgrading to IE 6.

"Microsoft security" may be an oxymoron, but IE 6 is way more secure than
IE 5.

 

[Aaron]

The poster asked for a tabbed interface for MSIE, for which there are
available good freeware options.

The poster started by asking whether his question was OT here, which
would be a strange start if he was looking only for freeware options.
I answered in the same vein even stating it was slightly ot.

Yet you felt compelled to slide Opera in there, with no reason or
justification.

I already posted my justification whether you want to accept it or not is
what to you.

You have brought doubt upon yourself, in this thread for one, as to
whether you are a poster even worth reading, by anyone interested in
reliable freeware recommendations.

Whether I'm a poster worth reading or not is not up to you to decide,
though I'm sure you would wish to. It's posts like this, that make people
leave in disgust. Besides This group has being known to discuss Opera a
lot more than in a single mention.




Aaron (my email is not munged!)