Which IE do you recommend -- 5.5 vs. 6?

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Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply

My apologies if this is OT here -- just politely redirect me elsewhere
if it is.

I am currently using IE 5.5 on my Win98SE computer for those web sites
that my dearly-beloved Netscape 7.1 crashes on, and I am so used to the
Netscape 7.1 tabbed browser, I was wondering does IE 6.x have a tabbed
browser? Or is there another non-IE browser closer to IE that will
handle the web sites that Netscape can't handle and then I don't have to
worry about updating IE?
 
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Tiger

My apologies if this is OT here -- just politely redirect me
elsewhere if it is.

I am currently using IE 5.5 on my Win98SE computer for those web
sites that my dearly-beloved Netscape 7.1 crashes on, and I am so
used to the Netscape 7.1 tabbed browser, I was wondering does IE
6.x have a tabbed browser? Or is there another non-IE browser
closer to IE that will handle the web sites that Netscape can't
handle and then I don't have to worry about updating IE?

There are several tabbed IE shells...SlimBrowser, MyIE2, CrazyBrowser,
Avant, et. al. Do a google search for any of those.
 
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Tiger

There are several tabbed IE shells...SlimBrowser, MyIE2,
CrazyBrowser, Avant, et. al. Do a google search for any of those.
Better yet...use Firebird with the IEview extension :)
 
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Boomer

My apologies if this is OT here -- just politely redirect me
elsewhere if it is.

I am currently using IE 5.5 on my Win98SE computer for those web
sites that my dearly-beloved Netscape 7.1 crashes on, and I am so
used to the Netscape 7.1 tabbed browser, I was wondering does IE
6.x have a tabbed browser? Or is there another non-IE browser
closer to IE that will handle the web sites that Netscape can't
handle and then I don't have to worry about updating IE?

If you like Netscape why not try Mozilla? www.mozilla.org

If you are having crashing problems you might ask how to fix these at a
Netscape/Mozilla newsgroup.
 
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CatThief

Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply wrote...
My apologies if this is OT here -- just politely redirect me elsewhere
if it is.

I am currently using IE 5.5 on my Win98SE computer for those web sites
that my dearly-beloved Netscape 7.1 crashes on, and I am so used to the
Netscape 7.1 tabbed browser, I was wondering does IE 6.x have a tabbed
browser? Or is there another non-IE browser closer to IE that will
handle the web sites that Netscape can't handle and then I don't have to
worry about updating IE?

My vote is for either Mozilla or Mozilla Firebird. Mozilla is a suite which
includes an e-mail client (like with Netscape), where with Firebird you get
a stand-alone browser. Thunderbird is Firebird's companion stand-alone
e-mail client. There are other differences between the two, but they are
still very similar.

Keep in mind that Firebird is still in early development where Mozilla has
been around for a while. Eventually, however, many moons from now,
Firebird and Thunderbird will become the main projects and the current
Mozilla browser suite will be phased out. If you want something a little
more "tested" and "de-bugged", I recommend going with Mozilla.

http://www.mozilla.org/

Many regards,
CatThief
 
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Aaron

My apologies if this is OT here -- just politely redirect me elsewhere
if it is.

Slightly OT.
I am currently using IE 5.5 on my Win98SE computer for those web sites
that my dearly-beloved Netscape 7.1 crashes on, and I am so used to the
Netscape 7.1 tabbed browser, I was wondering does IE 6.x have a tabbed
browser?

No.

Or is there another non-IE browser closer to IE that will
handle the web sites that Netscape can't handle and then I don't have to
worry about updating IE?

Some sites require activex, which no browser in the world besides IE
support. So you are out of luck if the site requires activex. You could
try IE shells like myie2 or avant browsers which are IE in disguise but
these have the same flaws as IE, so you still have to update, so no dice
there.

You already use Netscape 7.1 , which is almost indentical to Mozilla
/seamonkey .Since netscape is dead, you will eventually have to switch to
mozilla.

AnyhowThat is one of the best. You might try Opera too.



Aaron (my email is not munged!)
 
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Aaron

Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply wrote...


I recommend going with Mozilla.

He is already using Netscape 7.1 that is almost indentical* to Mozilla
1.4.


* Almost indentical anyway, I seem to recall some whining in the
mozillazine forums that Netscape 7.1 had slightly more functions than
mozilla 1.4 :)


Aaron (my email is not munged!)
 
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Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply

Boomer said:
If you like Netscape why not try Mozilla? www.mozilla.org

I thought Netscape 6 and up *was* Mozilla.
If you are having crashing problems you might ask how to fix these at a
Netscape/Mozilla newsgroup.

They open perfectly fine in IE, and after asking around at web sites
that I have problems with, I have discovered that they are using
specifically IE extensions and that they don't try to make their sites
accessible to Netscape users since supposedly IE has practically a
monopoly on the market. So I save my IE for the things that I can't
open with Netscape.
 
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Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply

Tiger said:
There are several tabbed IE shells...SlimBrowser, MyIE2, CrazyBrowser,
Avant, et. al. Do a google search for any of those.

Thank you; I will check these out. Do you know if they are dependent
upon having IE already installed on my computer, and if so, will 5.5 work?
 
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Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply

CatThief said:
My vote is for either Mozilla or Mozilla Firebird. Mozilla is a suite which
includes an e-mail client (like with Netscape), where with Firebird you get
a stand-alone browser. Thunderbird is Firebird's companion stand-alone
e-mail client. There are other differences between the two, but they are
still very similar.

They aren't significantly different than Netscape 7.1, are they?
Netscape 7.1 is *built* from Mozilla, I believe...
 
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Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply

Aaron said:
Slightly OT.

Whoops, sorry -- I was hoping that it was on-topic enough in that I am
looking for another freeware browser that is closer to IE than what I am
currently using.
Some sites require activex, which no browser in the world besides IE
support. So you are out of luck if the site requires activex. You
could try IE shells like myie2 or avant browsers which are IE in
disguise but these have the same flaws as IE, so you still have to
update, so no dice there.

Thank you for the explanation, which is more than I have been able to
get out of anybody else in the whole wide world, including web sites who
can't/don't/won't tell me why Netscape crashes.
You already use Netscape 7.1 , which is almost indentical to Mozilla
/seamonkey .Since netscape is dead, you will eventually have to
switch to mozilla.

Netscape is dead? When did that happen?
AnyhowThat is one of the best. You might try Opera too.

I liked the older versions of Opera but not the current ones for some
reason.

Thanks very much.
 
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Harvey Van Sickle

On 03 Nov 2003, Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply wrote
My apologies if this is OT here -- just politely redirect me
elsewhere if it is.

I am currently using IE 5.5 on my Win98SE computer for those web
sites that my dearly-beloved Netscape 7.1 crashes on, and I am so
used to the Netscape 7.1 tabbed browser, I was wondering does IE
6.x have a tabbed browser? Or is there another non-IE browser
closer to IE that will handle the web sites that Netscape can't
handle and then I don't have to worry about updating IE?

As Aaron says, IE doesn't have a tabbed version, but it sounds as if an
IE browser shell might serve your purposes as well as it does mine.

Most of these shells -- CrazyBrowser and MyIE2 -- are fairly similar to
one another, and it's just a matter of trying a couple to see which one
suits you best. FWIW, I used to use MyIE2 (before I went for a paid-
for browser shell that I prefer), and found it to be excellent.

Of the true "non-IE" browsers, I used Opera for a few years but got
frustrated with it and gave up about 2 years ago. I alaso tried
Firebird, but decided that it was just less hassle to use an IE shell
running on IE 6. (Personal preference thing.)

Have fun with the search, though!
 
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Aaron

Whoops, sorry -- I was hoping that it was on-topic enough in that I am
looking for another freeware browser that is closer to IE than what I am
currently using.


Thank you for the explanation, which is more than I have been able to
get out of anybody else in the whole wide world, including web sites who
can't/don't/won't tell me why Netscape crashes.

Actually activex alone should not in most cases cause none- IE browsers
to crash. A bigger reason I think is none-standard html used by many
webmasters, they only check to see if it displays okay in IE only, or
when using frontpage use IE only tags.

Netscape is dead? When did that happen?

Sometime in July 2003. Do a web search.




Aaron (my email is not munged!)
 
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Wald

I thought Netscape 6 and up *was* Mozilla.

Nononono, Netscape is based on Mozilla, but just adds a bunch of
silly features slowing it down and making it (IMHO) annoying to work
with. Really, try Mozilla, I think it will work as perfectly for you
as it does for me. Also, it has better support for webstandards than
IE.
You could also try FireBird, it's a standalone version of the Mozilla
browser. The Mozilla project is moving towards these standalone
application instead of one browser-email-composer suite.

Good luck,
Wald
 
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badgolferman

Melinda said:
My apologies if this is OT here -- just politely redirect me elsewhere
if it is.

I am currently using IE 5.5 on my Win98SE computer for those web sites
that my dearly-beloved Netscape 7.1 crashes on, and I am so used to
the Netscape 7.1 tabbed browser, I was wondering does IE 6.x have a
tabbed browser? Or is there another non-IE browser closer to IE that
will handle the web sites that Netscape can't handle and then I don't
have to worry about updating IE?

I'll get back to your original question. All the IE-based tabbed browsers
are dependant upon the IE rendering engine. As for IE 5.5 or 6.0, I have
upgraded about 20 computers to 6.0 and have not had a problem yet. However
there are plenty of people who have had a problem upgrading. Try upgrading
and keeping the previous configuration for a possible rollback if necessary.
 
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ms

Aaron said:
snip

Actually activex alone should not in most cases cause none- IE browsers
to crash. A bigger reason I think is none-standard html used by many
webmasters, they only check to see if it displays okay in IE only, or
when using frontpage use IE only tags.
snip

That may explain what I see on some sites. I start with Netscape 4.79,
if no go, use Firebird, finally IE 5.01, Since IE 5.01 is old, the site
coding may not like it. If these don't work, I go elsewhere. I briefly
used Netscape 7.02 browser, but see no advantage to it.

Mike Sa
 
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Duddits

My apologies if this is OT here -- just politely redirect me elsewhere
if it is.

I am currently using IE 5.5 on my Win98SE computer for those web sites
that my dearly-beloved Netscape 7.1 crashes on, and I am so used to the
Netscape 7.1 tabbed browser, I was wondering does IE 6.x have a tabbed
browser? Or is there another non-IE browser closer to IE that will
handle the web sites that Netscape can't handle and then I don't have to
worry about updating IE?

I've tried every tabbed browser out there and strongly recommend MYIE2
http://www.myie2.com/ (~3.5mb full install)
Tons of features - ad blocker, popup stopper, mouse gestures, tabbed
browsing, much more. Rock solid on my W98 and XP machines.

regards

Dud
 
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Christopher Jahn

And it came to pass that Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to
reply said:
Thank you; I will check these out. Do you know if they are
dependent upon having IE already installed on my computer,
and if so, will 5.5 work?

YEs, and check the specifications on the homepages for the
products.

--
:) Christopher Jahn
:-(

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/xjahn/Main.html

Make your own mistakes, not somebody else's.
 
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donutbandit

He is already using Netscape 7.1 that is almost indentical* to Mozilla
1.4.


I would upgrade IE 5.5 to 6 as a given due to security issues.

Netscape, Mozilla and Firebird all work well but all still have the same
memory leak. I'm using Netscape 7.1 now. This memory leak has been here for
ages and is something that REALLY needs to be fixed.
 

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