Where to download Gemstar Plus?

P

Paul

I had to reinstall XP and my ATI drivers but can't find my original disk. I
also can't seem to find where the Gemstar Plus software is on ATI's site in
order to download that. Can anyone please tell me where to find this?

TIA

Paul
 
A

Alpha_Male

Bummer, I guess I'll turn the office over looking for the cd.
Thanks
You may wish to try THIS (Attached). It's the Update Wizard for
GuidePlus and MAY help you get (D/L) a copy.

(I suspect I'll get 'flamed' for posting this here in this group
but... (it's a small file anyway...)... and I'll live with it...
 
G

Gordon Scott

Alpha_Male said:
Name: EPGUpdate.exe
EPGUpdate.exe Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream)
Encoding: x-uuencode

hey butthead
DO NOT POST BINARIES TO NON BINARY GROUPS,
host the file and provide a link
 
G

Gordon Scott

Alpha_Male said:
You may wish to try THIS (Attached). It's the Update Wizard for
GuidePlus and MAY help you get (D/L) a copy.

(I suspect I'll get 'flamed' for posting this here in this group
but... (it's a small file anyway...)... and I'll live with it...


Xtrace pd7tw3no 1087099531 24.66.94.143 (Sat, 12 Jun 2004 22:05:31 MDT)

some butthead in winnipeg
 
J

J. Clarke

techno said:
Nice insult calling a person a Butthead. Ever thought about
taking a course in dealing with people in this world?

You would prefer "disgusting misbegotten spawn of a syphilitic swine"?

Or is it the use of invective in any form that you find objectionable?
 
G

Gordon Scott

techno said:
Nice insult calling a person a Butthead. Ever thought about
taking a course in dealing with people in this world?

the guy it was wrong and did it anyway, that's a butthead in my books
 
G

Greg

I don't know what your time is worth but for about $15 you can get a new cd
from ATI with everything on it. To me that's cheap as opposed to spending an
hour or 2 looking for a disc.
 
J

J.

Greg said:
I don't know what your time is worth but for about $15 you can get a new cd
from ATI with everything on it. To me that's cheap as opposed to spending an
hour or 2 looking for a disc.

This sort of nonsense only confirms what any sane person already knows: ATI
are a bunch of IDIOTS. First, they include a model of utter absurdity
(Gemstar Plus) as TV schedule software that we're supposed to take
seriously. Then they don't even put it on their website. But maybe it's
some issue since ATI didn't author the software? WHO CARES. That just
makes them even bigger idiots then.

These simpletons then have the ironic stupidity to include an item in the
*Start Menu* to update the Gemstar Plus software? There never is any update
in the first place, and secondly did it never occur to them that maybe they
should have the same sort of thing to update their defective drivers/MMC?
These are only a few of dozens of issues so retarded, so completely banal,
that they make religion look like a bastion of logic. Does anyone know
what's wrong with these morons?
 
T

Tom Lake

These simpletons then have the ironic stupidity to include an item in the
*Start Menu* to update the Gemstar Plus software? There never is any update
in the first place

Mine did an update from that site. It does work unless you already have the
latest version.

Tom Lake
 
J

J. Clarke

J. said:
This sort of nonsense only confirms what any sane person already knows:
ATI
are a bunch of IDIOTS. First, they include a model of utter absurdity
(Gemstar Plus) as TV schedule software that we're supposed to take
seriously.

In case you're not aware of it Gemstar Plus is tied into the TV Guide
database and it's the _only_ scheduling software that you can get for a PC
that is tied into that database. All the others get their data from
secondary sources. Now, one could argue that TV Guide should provide
better software but then how would they sell their magazine? Or would you
pay an annual fee for access to their database? Didn't think so.
Then they don't even put it on their website. But maybe it's
some issue since ATI didn't author the software? WHO CARES. That just
makes them even bigger idiots then.

So what _should_ they do to provide scheduling information direct from the
TV Guide database? Maybe they're idiots for not going with a secondary
source--that's a judgment call--but if they're going with the "official"
database then they're stuck with the software that the provider makes
available and the terms and conditions associated with that software.

Don't like it, then go with one of the other schedulers.
These simpletons then have the ironic stupidity to include an item in the
*Start Menu* to update the Gemstar Plus software? There never is any
update in the first place,

What are they supposed to do about that?
and secondly did it never occur to them that
maybe they should have the same sort of thing to update their defective
drivers/MMC?

Why should they do that? They provide driver downloads, Gemstar doesn't.
These are only a few of dozens of issues so retarded, so
completely banal,
that they make religion look like a bastion of logic.

It _is_ a bastion of logic. Ever read Aquinas? It's the underlying
assumptions that are questionable, not the reasoning from them.
Does anyone know what's wrong with these morons?

Why don't you enlighten us?
 
J

J.

J. Clarke said:
In case you're not aware of it Gemstar Plus is tied into the TV Guide
database and it's the _only_ scheduling software that you can get for a PC
that is tied into that database. All the others get their data from
secondary sources. Now, one could argue that TV Guide should provide
better software but then how would they sell their magazine? Or would you
pay an annual fee for access to their database? Didn't think so.

So you think, for example, being able to click on a show (to see the
description) without having the stupid TV display change to that channel,
means I'll no longer buy TV Guide? (Not that I do). Huh?
So what _should_ they do to provide scheduling information direct from the
TV Guide database? Maybe they're idiots for not going with a secondary
source--that's a judgment call--but if they're going with the "official"
database then they're stuck with the software that the provider makes
available and the terms and conditions associated with that software.

Don't like it, then go with one of the other schedulers.

I'll assume what you say is true. They're both idiots for not
finding/creating better software. If ATI cared about software quality they
would have done *something* about the Gemstar nonsense by now. But then MMC
("Multimedia Center") provides ample proof that that good software design
means about as much to them as it does to Microsoft.
What are they supposed to do about that?


Why should they do that? They provide driver downloads, Gemstar doesn't.

Why? Umm, maybe because at minimum it could provide a direct link to the
correct download page? The website is MUCH better than it used to be, so
it's easier to find your driver, but still having an update link would be
useful. On a side note, 15 years from now they'll decide to consolidate all
their files into single-installer options. Like they did with the catalyst
drivers recently. Or wait, maybe an installer that does the driver, and
then MMC automatically? Oooh, that would be advanced. Morons.
It _is_ a bastion of logic. Ever read Aquinas? It's the underlying
assumptions that are questionable, not the reasoning from them.

So then no, religion isn't a bastion of logic. Or does the term religion
not include these utterly baseless/meaningless "underlying assumptions"?
Uhh, yeah they're the only important part. Well, important to this
discussion; otherwise irrelevant.
Why don't you enlighten us?

This would be my opinion. They're making comfortable livings and the
company is doing well. There's no real motivation to clean up and revamp th
e clunky and awkward junksuite that is MMC.
 
J

J. Clarke

J. said:
So you think, for example, being able to click on a show (to see the
description) without having the stupid TV display change to that channel,
means I'll no longer buy TV Guide? (Not that I do). Huh?

What _I_ think is irrelevant. I don't run TV Guide. What _they_ think is
what matters.
I'll assume what you say is true. They're both idiots for not
finding/creating better software. If ATI cared about software quality
they
would have done *something* about the Gemstar nonsense by now. But then
MMC ("Multimedia Center") provides ample proof that that good software
design means about as much to them as it does to Microsoft.

Blaming ATI for Gemstar is kind of like blaming Dell for Windows. There's
nothing "better" that can access that database because the owners of the
database are keeping it proprietary.
Why? Umm, maybe because at minimum it could provide a direct link to the
correct download page? The website is MUCH better than it used to be, so
it's easier to find your driver, but still having an update link would be
useful. On a side note, 15 years from now they'll decide to consolidate
all
their files into single-installer options. Like they did with the
catalyst
drivers recently. Or wait, maybe an installer that does the driver, and
then MMC automatically? Oooh, that would be advanced. Morons.

Personally I don't _want_ an "update link". I prefer to download the update
and then install it later. With multiple machines that saves my time and a
bit of bandwidth.
So then no, religion isn't a bastion of logic. Or does the term religion
not include these utterly baseless/meaningless "underlying assumptions"?
Uhh, yeah they're the only important part. Well, important to this
discussion; otherwise irrelevant.

The term "logic" does not include the underlying assumptions. If the
process of logic is applied then the conclusion is logical. "Logical" is
not the same as "correct".
This would be my opinion. They're making comfortable livings and the
company is doing well. There's no real motivation to clean up and revamp
th e clunky and awkward junksuite that is MMC.

If you don't likle MMC then use something else. There's plenty of
"something else" out there.
 
J

J.

J. Clarke said:
What _I_ think is irrelevant. I don't run TV Guide. What _they_ think is
what matters.

Obviously. I thought we were giving opinions though.
Blaming ATI for Gemstar is kind of like blaming Dell for Windows. There's
nothing "better" that can access that database because the owners of the
database are keeping it proprietary.

Has ATI ever even asked that improvements be made? Just speculation, but I
seriously doubt it considering their own low standards!
The term "logic" does not include the underlying assumptions. If the
process of logic is applied then the conclusion is logical. "Logical" is
not the same as "correct".

Dictionary.com:

"A system of reasoning: Aristotle's logic.
A mode of reasoning: By that logic, we should sell the company tomorrow.
The formal, guiding principles of a discipline, school, or science."

At least commonly, the term is used interchangeably with "reasonable".
Admittedly there isn't much reasoning involved with religious assertions.
But then the definition of reasoning becomes an issue. Who cares though;
forget about it, and I'll restate: religion as a whole is utterly idiotic,
irrational, unjustified, unscientific, vague nonsense.
If you don't likle MMC then use something else. There's plenty of
"something else" out there.

Is this the standard reply in the FAQ that the newsgroup rationalizers can
copy and paste into replies? All I'm saying is there's room for
improvement...a LOT of room. Besides, AFAIK there isn't anything else that
has as many features, especially for an AIW card with remote control. It's
just a matter of standards. Yours seem to be a bit lower than mine. But as
you say, it's irrelevant what we think. ATI will do whatever they want.
 

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