WGA updated again

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Leythos said:
But we see a lot of the above in your posts :)
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You see bullsh*t because your head is up a bull's ass, oh fool that uses
the royal "we" when giving his own worthless and deluded opinion.

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Leythos said:
I see you didn't address the fact that the OP said he reinstalls even
when the customer has no COA and NO MEDIA - I could see if there was a
COA (which would seem to indicate the customer at least has a
license).

Why can't you see that people are responsible for their OWN ACTIONS or
lack of actions? If you don't protect your COA or Media you deserve
what you get because of it. If you purchase a computer with a pirated
copy of anything, you deserve what you get and the vendor of that
pirated software doesn't OWE you anything.
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LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY. *ALL* of them have Windows XP COA stickers
on their case. I use the respective OEM version disc (Home or
Professional) to reload XP with THEIR COA KEY.

My complaint is the fact I have to call Microsoft to activate each one
thus wasting my time. YES it IS a hassle becasue I often will be put
ON HOLD OR EVEN DISCONNECTED! When I do get through I EXPLAIN TO THE
ACTIVIATION PERSON what happened and they never had a problem
activating the product for me.

Again, my COMPLAINT IS THAT IT IS A WASTE OF TIME FOR US PEOPLE WHO
ARE LEGIT.
Since the OP posted that he was using other than the customers own
media, we can assume that it's not the same media set as the vendors
provided media. Since the op posted that his customers also don't have a
COA in some cases, etc...
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P.S. LEARN TO READ.
 
LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY. *ALL* of them have Windows XP COA stickers
Often it is due to failed hard drives which, guess what?, the recovery
partition is now destroyed. So, yes, I have to use my own OEM XP
disc. Plus customers rarely bring in their recovery CDs (and have
usually thrown them out).
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So, you said you are not using the same media that they were provided -
lets make this simple, you are not using HP OEM Media when you restore
one if you are using your FULL OEM media to restore their machines,
there is a subtle difference, and it's about licensing.
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Their "media" (i.e. partition) is destroyed. No, I am NOT going to
ask them to buy another copy of Windows when a COA sticker is right on
the side of the case.


 
Good news, crack is out already. Why does MS even bother? Now I can
procede to finish an OS install without having to call MS immediately.
This shitty job is make somewhat easier now.
 
Good news, crack is out already. Why does MS even bother? Now I can
procede to finish an OS install without having to call MS immediately.
This shitty job is make somewhat easier now.
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Until they come up with a way to detect it.
 
Good news, crack is out already. Why does MS even bother? Now I can
procede to finish an OS install without having to call MS immediately.
This shitty job is make somewhat easier now.
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How about a link then ST?

8-)

Jonah
 
Leythos said:
Until they come up with a way to detect it.
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And round and round they go. The crackers laugh and the paying customers
suffer. How is that good, Leythos? Why should paying customers be forced
to be in the crossfire?

Here's the solution:

XP HOME $35 or three for $100

XP Pro $50 or three for $125

NO OEMs, only retail, even for Dell, et al and Dell and the boys must
provide the customer with a CD.

NO activation. NO WGA. This eliminates WPA and WGS R&D costs and the
cost of the legions of activators in India, Pakistan and South America.

Pirates out of business.

Problem solved.

Yes, I know there is a small minority that would steal it even if the
price was $1 but they are in a very small minority and not worth
considering.

Alias
 
Please ignore Leythos. I have concluded that it has a problem and cannot be
fixed.






SepticTank said:
Their "media" (i.e. partition) is destroyed. No, I am NOT going to
ask them to buy another copy of Windows when a COA sticker is right on
the side of the case.


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God this crap pisses me off. I run a computer shop and routinely do
reloads on people's systems. Unfortuantely, most of them are name
brand Dells, HPs, etc. and require me to freakin CALL in to activate.
So I usually do all the updates beforehand and make the call when it's
convenient.

OH WELL. They've once again updated WGA and the little .DLL
replacement I've been slipping in System32 no longer works.

Any other work arounds known? I am sure someone will release yet
another hacked version later.

Truly, this is getting ridiculous. If customers experienced the hell
us techs go through they would find an alternative to this Microsoft
garbage.
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There are plenty of alternatives. Why don't you just convert those systems
over to GNU/Linux and put an end forever to MickeyMouse's silliness? Your
customers will end up with far more secure and stable systems and finally
be free of the crapware from M$.


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Lets look at it the way it should be:

1) Customer brings in a computer with a non-working drive, lets say it's
a Dell computer.

2) The COA is on the left side of the case, if not, then it's not a
legit install, since Dell ALWAYS INSTALLS THE COA on the case (one of
two places, mostly on the left side).
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Why don't they install it on the bottom of the case and make the end-user
have to work even harder? What's with these companies? What a bunch of
pussies. Place the COA inside the case, under the mobo so the end-user has
to tear apart their piece of crap to get the number.


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Leythos said:
Strange, I had to move a customer from Windows XP installed from the
action pack to Windows XP OEM and none of the key hacks would work, and
I could not re-trigger WPA to allow me to enter the new key. A
repair/reinstall worked fine.

Don't forget, unless you're a democrat, people should be responsible for
their own actions or lack of actions.
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That's a *really* strange piece of reasoning. If one ignores the lack of a
capital letter, it suggests that by mere adherence to a party dogma one is
either responsible or not. Wow!

If it is meant to have a lower case 'd' as it in fact is presented, then it
is equally strange as it suggests that democracy is irresponsible.

Perhaps in practice, it may be, where people mindlessly accept dogmatic
pronouncements without examining the logical implications.

With hopes that you may provide reasoning?
Joe
 
There are plenty of alternatives. Why don't you just convert those systems
over to GNU/Linux and put an end forever to MickeyMouse's silliness? Your
customers will end up with far more secure and stable systems and finally
be free of the crapware from M$.
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I do where the customer can handle Linux, Suse or Ubunto usually.

Unfortunately here in the real world I have to make a living so
generally I do what the customer wants in order to get paid.

Putting Linux on a total newbies machine is a lot less traumatic than
dealing with somebody who is just experienced enough to be dangerous
but not good enough to DIY a Linux system.

I sometimes put a dual boot on for these people but invariably end up
taking it off again.

Check my headers

8-)

Jonah
 
Leythos said:
Bottom line is you're violating the Systems Builders agreement and
licensing agreements by not using the media version sold with their PC.

You'll be lucky if the guys in the black SUV's don't come visit you some
day.
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Leythos, you are either high or deranged. Septic Tank is simply using
his CD in place of the missing install media for the customer's
computer. He is still using their key on their COA off the side,
bottom, or back of the PC. How is this a violation?!?
 
Leythos said:
LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY. *ALL* of them have Windows XP COA stickers


So, you said you are not using the same media that they were provided
- lets make this simple, you are not using HP OEM Media when you
restore one if you are using your FULL OEM media to restore their
machines, there is a subtle difference, and it's about licensing.
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"I see you didn't address the fact that the OP said he reinstalls even
when the customer has no COA and NO MEDIA - I could see if there was a
COA (which would seem to indicate the customer at least has a
license)." - Lamegirl

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"Sharon Franks" <-> said:
Please ignore Leythos. I have concluded that it has a problem and cannot be
fixed.
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At least I can back up what I say with facts in this thread - what have
you done?
 
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