Vista SP1 Beta fails to resolve these issues.

[MICHAEL]

* Sharon Franks:

Speak for yourself. What gives you the right to speak for me or anybody
else, you don't own this group.

Tell it like it is, Sharon! ;-)


-Michael

 

[Guest]

Thanks Rick, i'v tryed a lot of those solutions and i will continue to work
on it. It's nice to see some constructive comments in the forum for once!

Looking back at previous posts it just goes to show, Vista makes people angry!

Honestly I havent noticed any changes since installing Vista SP1.

I just got lucky and was nominated as a tester, for those curiouse, SP1 came
via Windows Update, it installed 3 updates around the 4MB range then
downloaded and installed SP1 which, for me was only about 56MB but apperently
size varies.

I look forward to the full version and i am currently submitting all my
errors to microsoft via Microsoft Beta Client error reporting tool.

I suspect this SP will help those on networks significantly. For the rest
of us who have already downloaded the 2 performance and reliability updates,
don't get too excited.

 

[Gary Mount]

I had to use slot one or slot two in my motherboard to get my two Hauppauge
PVR 150 TV tuner cards to work.
They have been working flawlessly since January 30th of this year, and
previously with the Vista betas.
My mother board is a pre PCI express version (Asus P4P8X).
I also had problems with Windows XP if I didn't use slot one or two.

 

[Michael Palumbo]

I wouldn't have expected SP1 to resolve any of them.

(1) is an issue with Happauge. That card isn't supported in Vista by them.
If the manufacturer doesn't, don't expect Microsoft to.

Actually, I can confirm that the card does indeed work quite well with
Vista, and is indeed supported in Vista by Hauppauge.

I have two of them installed and never miss a show.

I will add though, when I installed the drivers supplied by Hauppauge the
cards choked totally, "Drivers not loaded . . ." errors for both cards.
When I reverted to the drivers installed by Windows Update all worked just
fine again. (I only add this because this may be the problem if the OP has
installed the drivers from Hauppauge's site.)

The other issues, I can't respond to, haven't seen them myself. (THIS IS
NOT AN "I don't see it, so it doesn't exist" TYPE OF STATEMENT. I merely
mean to state; I don't have the problem myself, and haven't seen it, so I
have no solution nor comment about it.)

Mic

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

I guess you're a bit confused. I did speak for myself and
no one else. If you have some constructive thoughts
(i.e. how to troubleshoot and resolve the OP's issues),
you're more than welcome to offer technical advice.

Please be aware that bona fide Vista SP1 beta testers
(which are under a NDA), cannot help troubleshoot
Vista issues if SP1 beta was installed and the matter
is presented in a public newsgroup. SP1 beta testers
have a set procedure for analyzing their system and
submitting the report to Microsoft Windows Vista
code developers for their review.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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Speak for yourself. What gives you the right to speak for me or anybody
else, you don't own this group.

--

Sharon Franks
MCC group
Microsoft Certified Solutions Developer (MCSD)
Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT).

 

[Charlie Tame]

FYI, forwarding all your insidious and insulting posts to
the mvp org for review and action.

And that is supposed to scare me is it? Or what?

 

[Charlie Tame]

I guess you're a bit confused. I did speak for myself and
no one else. If you have some constructive thoughts
(i.e. how to troubleshoot and resolve the OP's issues),
you're more than welcome to offer technical advice.

Please be aware that bona fide Vista SP1 beta testers
(which are under a NDA), cannot help troubleshoot
Vista issues if SP1 beta was installed and the matter
is presented in a public newsgroup. SP1 beta testers
have a set procedure for analyzing their system and
submitting the report to Microsoft Windows Vista
code developers for their review.

Which part of "Failed to resolve" - IOW issues that were there before
the Beta - did you miss, jackass?

Whilst I may be wrong sometimes, as we all are, I will continue to try
and assist people as and when I can, and with no disrespect to the MVP
program you can report what you like, as can I. I may have criticisms of
the company, and of you, but I do NOT insult customers who are in
trouble as a first resort in the way you and one or two others do.

Whilst I could agree that it may be a good idea to let the Beta team
know about this it is quite likely they won't be able to do much with it
unfortunately.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

SP1 beta testers have a set procedure for analyzing their system and
submitting the report to Microsoft Windows Vista code developers for their review. It works. How else can developers gain
knowledge of
problem areas unless someone can point them out? There are
millions of computers that have various hardware/software configurations.
The whole point of a beta testing program is to test "real world" computers
with software development.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

---------------------------------------------------------------

I guess you're a bit confused. I did speak for myself and
no one else. If you have some constructive thoughts
(i.e. how to troubleshoot and resolve the OP's issues),
you're more than welcome to offer technical advice.

Please be aware that bona fide Vista SP1 beta testers
(which are under a NDA), cannot help troubleshoot
Vista issues if SP1 beta was installed and the matter
is presented in a public newsgroup. SP1 beta testers
have a set procedure for analyzing their system and
submitting the report to Microsoft Windows Vista
code developers for their review.

Which part of "Failed to resolve" - IOW issues that were there before
the Beta - did you miss, jackass?

Whilst I may be wrong sometimes, as we all are, I will continue to try
and assist people as and when I can, and with no disrespect to the MVP
program you can report what you like, as can I. I may have criticisms of
the company, and of you, but I do NOT insult customers who are in
trouble as a first resort in the way you and one or two others do.

Whilst I could agree that it may be a good idea to let the Beta team
know about this it is quite likely they won't be able to do much with it
unfortunately.

 

[Charlie Tame]

That would seem to suggest that the card has a limited range for
addressing or IRQ but that could also apply to the motherboard(s) so my
thinking was that it may be hardware and as you say a different slot may
fix it.

Also there's often a BIOS setting "Plug and play O/S" that can
occasionally help if set to no, forces the BIOS to look instead of
relying on the OS.

 

[Charlie Tame]

SP1 beta testers have a set procedure for analyzing their system and
submitting the report to Microsoft Windows Vista code developers for their review. It works. How else can developers gain
knowledge of
problem areas unless someone can point them out? There are
millions of computers that have various hardware/software configurations.
The whole point of a beta testing program is to test "real world" computers
with software development.

Yes, except the problems were there, as the post kinda indicates and the
user has since confirmed, before the Beta was installed, therefore it is
a possibility that someone with just a normal install has seen them. No
argument about the Beta and NDA, but I think many forget that these are
often brand new users, if not then at least users with a newer and maybe
expensive machine and if they are not used to these groups they probably
feel a bit insecure anyway, expecting perhaps a bunch of hi tech wizards
with the answers all ready ...

The bad new is my damned reply went astray somewhere between here and
the server.

 

[Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]]

Sharon, could you get me some discounts on some Microsoft Training and
Certifications?

 

[Charlie Tame]

Sharon, could you get me some discounts on some Microsoft Training and
Certifications?

Here's some for Linux training, it's free but it's also do it yourself...

 

[Sharon Franks]

Not confused at all. It's just that I see you send more people to other
groups then you offer help or a solution to their problem. If you know the
answer then give it and then if you want then tell them about another group.
Like Charlie said, the issue was there before SP1 Beta so it is a Vista
issue. If SP1 was supposed to fix it then yes it should be addressed in the
SP1 group.

--

Sharon Franks
MCC group
Microsoft Certified Solutions Developer (MCSD)
Microsoft Certified Trainer (MCT).

 

[Jonathan Yaniv- Windows Live Butterfly Expert]

Good for you! I wish I could forward insults the same...

Good that you are standing up for yourself!

--
Thank you,

Have a nice day,

Jonathan Yaniv
Microsoft Windows Liveâ„¢ Butterfly Expert

 

[Jonathan Yaniv- Windows Live Butterfly Expert]

Oh, stop it already, jeez!

--
Thank you,

Have a nice day,

Jonathan Yaniv
Microsoft Windows LiveT Butterfly Expert

 

[Jonathan Yaniv- Windows Live Butterfly Expert]

Exactly.

--
Thank you,

Have a nice day,

Jonathan Yaniv
Microsoft Windows LiveT Butterfly Expert

 

[Jonathan Yaniv- Windows Live Butterfly Expert]

Huh?

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Thank you,

Have a nice day,

Jonathan Yaniv
Microsoft Windows LiveT Butterfly Expert

 

[Jonathan Yaniv- Windows Live Butterfly Expert]

Carey, can you do me a favor, and forward that post from "MICHAEL" as
well....

Thanks!

--
Thank you,

Have a nice day,

Jonathan Yaniv
Microsoft Windows Liveâ„¢ Butterfly Expert

 

[MICHAEL]

* Jonathan Yaniv- Windows Live Butterfly Expert:

Huh?

Shall I repeat it? I'd be more than happy to give an even more
detailed reply.

Just let me know.


-Michael

 

[MICHAEL]

* Jonathan Yaniv- Windows Live Butterfly Expert:

Oh, stop it already, jeez!

It was stopped until you added your drivel.

Shall we continue?


-Michael