Vista software to show real time boot processes on screen

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Øyvind Granberg

Hi...

Is there any software that show what process is currently starting and
running on screen in real time?

I have Vista Ultimate.

Somewhere along the startup of Vista there is a long wait. I think the
perpetrator is the AppLauncher in the Vista Sidebar containing too many
icons. In fact 56 of them. I guess the wait is while hte software is
locating all relevant folders.

But then again, I really don't know, as the wait is still there even when
the sidebar start up is disabled.

All I want is a few words on screen stating that this or that process is now
starting...
The list of started processes I can see in my Sysinternals Process Explorer.

Do you guys know of such a ultility?

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Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

(e-mail address removed)
www.tresfjording.com
 
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Old Rookie

Offhand I can't think of a utility that will do such. What may help is to
try and use boot loggong as described in the link below.

http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-boot-logging-for-fixing-startup-problems-in-windows.html

When I encounter such problems I also try to boot into Safe Mode to see if
that resolves the problem or not and if it does I know it is a starup
component and then I need to troubleshoot via trial and error using msconfig
to try and pin down what starup service/process is causing the problem.

The other place to look is in the application and system logs [eventvwr.msc
in run box] to see if anything of note is recorded during startup. During a
startup note the time of startup as events in the application/system logs
are time stamped and another give a way is a big time gap between events
recorded in the application/system logs during startup.

-- Steve
 
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Øyvind Granberg

Thank you Steve.

I have done all that you suggest, but I really can't find any thing wrong.

My msconfig list is as clean as can be.

Eventviewer had a fault in the log of SYSTEM so I coudn't save or read the
list there. I reset it....

But thank you for taken your time to reply.

About the restart in safe mode, it have the same long wait....

Could it be hardware related?


--

Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

(e-mail address removed)
www.tresfjording.com

Old Rookie said:
Offhand I can't think of a utility that will do such. What may help is to
try and use boot loggong as described in the link below.

http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-boot-logging-for-fixing-startup-problems-in-windows.html

When I encounter such problems I also try to boot into Safe Mode to see if
that resolves the problem or not and if it does I know it is a starup
component and then I need to troubleshoot via trial and error using
msconfig to try and pin down what starup service/process is causing the
problem.

The other place to look is in the application and system logs
[eventvwr.msc in run box] to see if anything of note is recorded during
startup. During a startup note the time of startup as events in the
application/system logs are time stamped and another give a way is a big
time gap between events recorded in the application/system logs during
startup.

-- Steve

Øyvind Granberg said:
Hi...

Is there any software that show what process is currently starting and
running on screen in real time?

I have Vista Ultimate.

Somewhere along the startup of Vista there is a long wait. I think the
perpetrator is the AppLauncher in the Vista Sidebar containing too many
icons. In fact 56 of them. I guess the wait is while hte software is
locating all relevant folders.

But then again, I really don't know, as the wait is still there even when
the sidebar start up is disabled.

All I want is a few words on screen stating that this or that process is
now starting...
The list of started processes I can see in my Sysinternals Process
Explorer.

Do you guys know of such a ultility?

--

Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

(e-mail address removed)
www.tresfjording.com
 
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Old Rookie

It could be a hardware problem but usually hardware problems do not show up
in just startup. Check device manager to see if there are any
warnings/errors shown that you may want to check further.

If you have not done so lately run Checkdisk with option to automatically
fix file errors on your system hard drive and defrag the hard drive.

Another thing to check is the Reliability monitor to see if any clues are
shown there. Since you have Vista Ultimate you could enable auditing of
process tracking just temporarily to see what processes are starting/exiting
during startup and noting times associated with such and any big gaps in
time stamps in the log. Process tracking is somewhat resource intensive so I
suggest it only for troubleshooting. You can use secpol.msc in the run box
to access Local Security Policy/local policies/audit policy - process
tracking to enable for success and failure.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766468(WS.10).aspx

Also remove and periphreal cables attached to your computer at startup
[other than mouse/keyboard/video] to see if that makes a difference as a
test in case there is a problem with that hardware.

The application/system logs are the best place to try and find a problem so
hopefully your auditing will be up abd running since you reset them. Often I
see a service that fails to start that can delay a startup for several
minutes.

The other thing that I always suspect in startup issues is anti antivirus
and/or anti spyware applications. If nothing else seems to help try
uninstalling all such software to see if that makes a difference being sure
to reinstall shortly sometime after to make sure you are protected.

I would also suggest running the free version of the Malwarebytes malware
removal tool to have it check for any malware as malware of course can cause
all kinds of weird problems.

http://www.malwarebytes.org/

If the startup issue is fairly recent it may be worth your while to try a
System Restore to a point before you noticed the problem. System Restore
should not remove any data but best practice is to always have current
backups of any importand data.

I am assuming that this computer is not a business computer that is a member
of an Active Directory domain. If it is often such problems can be related
to misconfigured TCI/IP settings and Group Policy errors as evidenced by
userenv warning/errors in the application log.

Steve

Øyvind Granberg said:
Thank you Steve.

I have done all that you suggest, but I really can't find any thing wrong.

My msconfig list is as clean as can be.

Eventviewer had a fault in the log of SYSTEM so I coudn't save or read the
list there. I reset it....

But thank you for taken your time to reply.

About the restart in safe mode, it have the same long wait....

Could it be hardware related?


--

Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

(e-mail address removed)
www.tresfjording.com

Old Rookie said:
Offhand I can't think of a utility that will do such. What may help is to
try and use boot loggong as described in the link below.

http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-boot-logging-for-fixing-startup-problems-in-windows.html

When I encounter such problems I also try to boot into Safe Mode to see
if that resolves the problem or not and if it does I know it is a starup
component and then I need to troubleshoot via trial and error using
msconfig to try and pin down what starup service/process is causing the
problem.

The other place to look is in the application and system logs
[eventvwr.msc in run box] to see if anything of note is recorded during
startup. During a startup note the time of startup as events in the
application/system logs are time stamped and another give a way is a big
time gap between events recorded in the application/system logs during
startup.

-- Steve

Øyvind Granberg said:
Hi...

Is there any software that show what process is currently starting and
running on screen in real time?

I have Vista Ultimate.

Somewhere along the startup of Vista there is a long wait. I think the
perpetrator is the AppLauncher in the Vista Sidebar containing too many
icons. In fact 56 of them. I guess the wait is while hte software is
locating all relevant folders.

But then again, I really don't know, as the wait is still there even
when the sidebar start up is disabled.

All I want is a few words on screen stating that this or that process is
now starting...
The list of started processes I can see in my Sysinternals Process
Explorer.

Do you guys know of such a ultility?

--

Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

(e-mail address removed)
www.tresfjording.com
 
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Øyvind Granberg

The other thing that I always suspect in startup issues is anti antivirus
and/or anti spyware applications. If nothing else seems to help try
uninstalling all such software to see if that makes a difference being
sure to reinstall shortly sometime after to make sure you are protected.

That I can relate to.
The only thing I haven't thought of yet.
I installed MS Essentials a while back...
I wonder....

Malwarebytes is bought and run once a week.

The Reliability and Performance check report some trouble with Skype, but
that was because I went form a dynamic DNS address to static in my wireless
router that day. Skype didn't return before I undid that.
I have also a few sudden iexplorer stops working errors, but that I am
nearly 100% sure is the flashplayer...
I think I start using Chrome, there is no hiccups there. But I'm worried
about security though...

I have turned on the verbose screen messages during startup, but I can't
figure out what's wrong form there.
This happens after the desktop screen has come up.


Anyways....
bedtime....
I'll be back...
(wow, only one spelling error)
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Kind regards
Øyvind Granberg

(e-mail address removed)
www.tresfjording.com
 
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Andrew Murray

Start with "New Message". This is an NTTP newsgroup so you really need a
newsreader like Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird etc - sounds like you're
using Google Groups or something.

You've managed to reply to a message (with your question about printing
envelopes) that was off-topic in the thread you cut-in on), so New Message
should be fairly straight forward.
 
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Andrew Murray

redrazor4u2 said:
I am a newbe can't you tell. I'm trying to find someone out there that
has information that can help me with a printing issue through vista. I
am working on a Dell Inspiron lap top. I take it home and back to work
often. I can print most any document on the large printer at work. But
when I try to print envelopes i make all the necessary changes (I
believe) and it will not print envelopes. The company computer guy.
(whom I don't think is a very smart guy when it comes to these issues)
sat at my work station for about 30 minutes and was not able to fix the
issue. He mumbled there is a problem with Vista OS. What the hell does
he know right? So if anyone can help me with this I won't have to call
in some computer wizzard to charge us a bunch for a hopefully simple
fix. Thanking you in advance.

Michael :(

The first thing should know is you start a new question/topic rather than
cutting in on an existing thread/conversation

Click "New Message" in whatever software you use to read these groups.
Note, using an NTTP type newsreader (like Windows LIve Mail, Thunderbird or
one of a dozen others) would be easier than say Google Groups.
 

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