Vista Movie Maker transitions jitter

[JR]

I have Windows Vista, all the latest updates. Running Windows Movie
Maker. When I put a transition in between two videos, the transition
is ALWAYS jerkey. It does this on every transition I try. For
example, if I use a fade where it's supposed to fade from one scene to
another, it somewhat works, but several times during the transition it
jumps back to the original unfaded screen. Jittery, jerky, whatever
the term is.

OK, I read that Vista uses the graphics card hardware to make these
transitions so I tried several different driver revisions on my nVidia
7900. No luck so I removed the nVidia 7900 and put in an nVidia
6800. No change, exact same result.

I then go into Movie Maker Tools->Options and make sure there are NO
filter drivers present except for quartz.dll. So far so good.

So here I am at a loss and I do not know what to try. Any ideas are
appreciated. Thank you.

 

[John Inzer]

I have Windows Vista, all the latest updates. Running Windows Movie
Maker. When I put a transition in between two videos, the transition
is ALWAYS jerkey. It does this on every transition I try. For
example, if I use a fade where it's supposed to fade from one scene to
another, it somewhat works, but several times during the transition it
jumps back to the original unfaded screen. Jittery, jerky, whatever
the term is.

OK, I read that Vista uses the graphics card hardware to make these
transitions so I tried several different driver revisions on my nVidia
7900. No luck so I removed the nVidia 7900 and put in an nVidia
6800. No change, exact same result.

I then go into Movie Maker Tools->Options and make sure there are NO
filter drivers present except for quartz.dll. So far so good.

So here I am at a loss and I do not know what to try. Any ideas are
appreciated. Thank you.

==========================
Just wondering...how much RAM do
you have?

FWIW...This is a WinXP newsgroup...
it may be worth a try to post in the
following Vista group:

Discussions in Windows Vista
Music, Pictures, and Video
http://tinyurl.com/yqjkwz

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I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

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[JR]

Just wondering...how much RAM do
you have?

2 GBytes of RAM

FWIW...This is a WinXP newsgroup...
it may be worth a try to post in the
following Vista group:

I will try there too. Thank you!

 

[John Inzer]

2 GBytes of RAM

=====================
Thanks for the reply...
2 GBs should be adequate.

Have you tried reducing your
Graphics Hardware Acceleration?

(272193) PI: How to Troubleshoot
Graphics Issues
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=272193
(scroll down to: Windows Vista)

If it improves the issue, you still have
a problem with your video driver.

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John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

 

[Graham Hughes]

How much ram do you have on the graphics card?
What cpu?
Is this an XP upgraded pc, or a made for vista pc?

 

[JR]

How much ram do you have on the graphics card?
What cpu?
Is this an XP upgraded pc, or a made for vista pc?

This is a high end Dell XPS410 (dual core, not sure of the speed right
now). Made for Vista PC (not upgraded from XP). Video card has 256MB
of RAM. All high end stuff. Very strange. I am wondering if nVidia
has a driver issue. I have the option to try Adobe Premiere Elements
so I might give that a shot.

 

[John Inzer]

This is a high end Dell XPS410 (dual core, not sure of the speed right
now). Made for Vista PC (not upgraded from XP). Video card has 256MB
of RAM. All high end stuff. Very strange. I am wondering if nVidia
has a driver issue. I have the option to try Adobe Premiere Elements
so I might give that a shot.

================================================
Did reducing your Graphics Acceleration make any difference?

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John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

 

[JR]

Did reducing your Graphics Acceleration make any difference?

I don't know yet. I am at work and it's my home system with the
issue. However, my nearly identical Dell XPS 410 here at work doesn't
allow me to adjust any graphics acceleration options. It states that
"Your current display driver does not allow changes to be made to
hardware acceleration settings." I am pretty certain I will get the
same message at home.

There are some settings in the Nvidia Control Panel that I might try
tweeking. Thanks again.

 

[John Inzer]

I don't know yet. I am at work and it's my home system with the
issue. However, my nearly identical Dell XPS 410 here at work doesn't
allow me to adjust any graphics acceleration options. It states that
"Your current display driver does not allow changes to be made to
hardware acceleration settings." I am pretty certain I will get the
same message at home.

There are some settings in the Nvidia Control Panel that I might try
tweeking. Thanks again.

===========================================
You cannot adjust the hardware acceleration? Which
version of the nVidia 7900 GS driver are you using?

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John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk

 

[JR]

Well I'm about to give up on Movie Maker. Hours wasted is getting to
be too much. As you might recall, I had massive flickering during
scene transitions with Movie Maker under Vista. Everything else was
fine. Nothing I tried, from changing video cards, video drivers,
settings, etc., would resolve it.

So, I tried a different solution. I downloaded Movie Maker 2.6 for
Vista. This is the older XP Movie Maker that I have used before with
great success. I tested the transitions and it worked SMOOTHLY. All
was looking great. I then spent an hour creating a new set of movies
and burning to DVD. All was happy.

Not so fast. Now another very strange issue. Each video clip I
created has a sound problem. Here is the problem. Take 10 video
clips and put them into the timeline with transitions between each
clip (some titles too). Start to play the video. This isn't burned
to DVD or anything. This is a straight DV-AVI generated directly from
Movie Maker. It starts out just fine but on the second scene or
third, the sound just drops out completely and it never comes back.
Scroll back to the start of the video and you have sound again.

There is something on my system with Movie Maker 2.6 dropping the
audio. For the record, within Movie Maker, in the preview window, if
I press play on say the 2nd or 3rd scene, I DO have audio.

Very frustrating.

 

[JR]

There is something on my system with Movie Maker 2.6 dropping the
audio. For the record, within Movie Maker, in the preview window, if
I press play on say the 2nd or 3rd scene, I DO have audio.

OK, another partial solution. When I save the video to my computer,
if I use "High Quality Video (NTSC)" instead of DV-AVI (which was the
original source format), I don't seem to lose the audio any longer.

After I finish this DVD I'm working on I'm going to try Adobe Premiere
Elements. It's a shame because I really like Movie Maker. Maybe with
Vista SP1 it will all be good.

 

[Guest]

I just thought I'd say that I'm having the same problems with the transitions
on my machine - as I've indicated in a post to another person. This is not an
isolated problem. My machine is a Dell Inspiron 1520 - nVidia GeForce 8600M
GT card - 2Gb RAM. I haven't tried using the older MM 2.6 yet but I will if I
can't find another solution.

 

[schildi]

Has anybody ever found a solution to this problem? I am seeing the exact same
issue.

Thanks a lot for any help!

 

[txgent101]

Has anybody ever found a solution to this problem? I am seeing the exact same
issue.

Thanks a lot for any help!

Perhaps an interesting footnote to this thread: I recently
experimented with importing a DV-AVI source file created from
VirtualDub MPEG using the Panasonic DV codec which had been reported
elsewhere as successful. My intent was to get better quality in the
finished product. However, I experienced the same kind of problems
that others in this thread have reported: viz, unstable transitions.
In addition, Publishing a file from that source and importing that DV-
AVI into Windows DVD Maker resulted in unstable menu previews in WDVD.
So I have gone back to my tried and true .wmv files for source import
and Published projects [and possibly taking a quality hit in doing so,
but it is not terrible]. This was with the Vista version 6.0 and DV-
AVI with the Panasonic codec. Using .wmv source files in WMM works
fine. I think I am reporting this accurately, not trying to muddy any
water.