Vista is lame

[Guest]

I wanted to try it but with 64 bit. I don't want to do a clean install. It is
not supported to go from 32 bit XP to 64 bit Upgrade.
After all this wait for a beta and all the time to do the download this is
the lame mess I get.
WOW!

I guess I will try the 32 bit to learn the interface but I am NOT a happy
camper.

 

[F r e e]

dont want a clean isntall? want to overwrite a fully working OS with a BETA?
Now thats LAME LOL

 

[Joe727]

LMAO !!

dont want a clean isntall? want to overwrite a fully working OS with a
BETA?
Now thats LAME LOL

 

[Guest]

I realize completely what you are thinking but that is what I want to do. I
keep an image file and another machine. This would be the REAL test. When the
retail version comes out I will upgrade, NOT BEFORE.
If yo cannot understand my reason , so be it.

 

[Andre Da Costa [Extended64]]

The architecture of the operating system does not allow Vista x64 to upgrade
from XP x86, it would cause a whole lot of conflicts with existing 32 bit
programs and registry issues that would just be a waste of time. Look at the
amount of problems and XP x86 to Vista x86 upgrade is causing, seriously
now, imagine a XP x86 upgrade to Vista x64. Vista does not even allow Vista
x86 to Vista x64 upgrades.
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[Guest]

Does that mean that my 32 bit programs will not run in Vista 64? If so, I
guess it will be a LONG time before I go t that since I have MANY
applications and most will not be 64 bit for a LONG time. I do not understand
why it would not support both but that is what yo seem to imply?

I really have no time for this for about a month as I will be in the
Mountains and Deserts of New Mexico from Jun 20 to Jul 12 so I won't get
started now. That will be a MUCH nicer thing anyhow.

Does anyone know why there are usenet froups at the microsoft public server
but they have no access to the messages? The other public groups work fine
with my newsreader. It would be a lot easier that way. I suppose they would
not have control then, oh well!


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Creed en las obras, no en las palabras
W0MN Gil Rochester, MN

The architecture of the operating system does not allow Vista x64 to upgrade
from XP x86, it would cause a whole lot of conflicts with existing 32 bit
programs and registry issues that would just be a waste of time. Look at the
amount of problems and XP x86 to Vista x86 upgrade is causing, seriously
now, imagine a XP x86 upgrade to Vista x64. Vista does not even allow Vista
x86 to Vista x64 upgrades.
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Andre
Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

 

[Jane C]

You can install and run 32bit programs in 64bit Vista. They will not
install if they have 16bit installers though.

--
Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation

Does that mean that my 32 bit programs will not run in Vista 64? If so, I
guess it will be a LONG time before I go t that since I have MANY
applications and most will not be 64 bit for a LONG time. I do not
understand
why it would not support both but that is what yo seem to imply?

I really have no time for this for about a month as I will be in the
Mountains and Deserts of New Mexico from Jun 20 to Jul 12 so I won't get
started now. That will be a MUCH nicer thing anyhow.

Does anyone know why there are usenet froups at the microsoft public
server
but they have no access to the messages? The other public groups work fine
with my newsreader. It would be a lot easier that way. I suppose they
would
not have control then, oh well!

 

[Guest]

So much for Vista. I guess I will wait until I get a new computer and things
are more stable. So many programs are not supported. What a mess. So much
hardware is not supported. What a mess.

Partition Magic.

I don't know how many of these will work with new programs.

Real Audio does not work either.

Maybe a clean install on a separate partition just to learn the interface
might be wroth it, doubt it though.



AVG Anti Virus
All of my PCIe 1800 Video card drivers.
Partition Magic

 

[Guest]

Isn't that the whole point of testing a beta? To find the problems?

 

[Guest]

Well, yes but I cannot test what I cannot run. They know this stuff does not
work, the compatibility check told me so. They obviously are a long way from
supporting a reasonable set of hardware.

 

[Guest]

Your list included "RealPlayer, Partition Magic and AVG." That isn't
hardware. That is software. And if the software companies don't want to
write code for Vista, how exactly is that Microsoft's problem? As for your
video card, it is the responsibility of the hardware manufacturer to supply
you with the correct driver for the equipment they sold you; again, how is
this an issue for MSFT?

 

[Al Kaufmann]

You can install and run 32bit programs in 64bit Vista. They will not
install if they have 16bit installers though.

I discovered that and I wonder if need to have all the applications you need
installed on Windows XP and then do an upgrade? I have not been able to
test that since my operating system is on a raid drive. (Vista can't find it
until you install the drivers and then it is too late)

Al

 

[Tom Scales]

I discovered that and I wonder if need to have all the applications you
need installed on Windows XP and then do an upgrade? I have not been able
to test that since my operating system is on a raid drive. (Vista can't
find it until you install the drivers and then it is too late)

Al

You cannot upgrade XP to Vista 64.

 

[Joe727]

You'll never convince the CDO posting noob.

Joe

Your list included "RealPlayer, Partition Magic and AVG." That isn't
hardware. That is software. And if the software companies don't want to
write code for Vista, how exactly is that Microsoft's problem? As for
your
video card, it is the responsibility of the hardware manufacturer to
supply
you with the correct driver for the equipment they sold you; again, how is
this an issue for MSFT?

 

[Guest]

Not everyone shares your negative attitude about change. I had one problem.
My tired old worn out well used sound card. I see creative (a hardware
company) has some drivers for vista and more to follow. I thought it was the
best ever. I am looking forward to the full version. Thanks Microsoft, your
efforts are much appreciated by most enthusiasts...
Maybe its time for someone to get off moms PC and upgrade? Just maybe?

Comments, suggestions welcome…
AMD 64 3000, MSI k8t Neo,1.5 gig RAM, WD Raptor SATA 74G HD, eVGA 6800 GT,
SB live value, Vista beta 2 64 bit/XP Pro 64 bit... New soundcard en route
Thank you,
TC

 

[Guest]

I'm guessing he goes days on end without putting pants on...

 

[Al Kaufmann]

You cannot upgrade XP to Vista 64.

I wasn't trying to upgrade to Vista 64, I am still happy with my AMD Barton
3200+.

 

[Joe727]

I wasn't trying to upgrade to Vista 64, I am still happy with my AMD
Barton 3200+.

Yep - nice CPU - 333 or 400 MHz? 400 MHz here.

Joe

 

[Al Kaufmann]

It is really a Barton 2500 333 MHz but it has been running at 400 MHz since
day 1 without a core voltage increase . My Computer says 3200+ and that is
good enough for me.

Al

 

[Joe727]

Yep, those Bartons are fantastic CPUs. BTW, you're a brave man

Joe